Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-10 Thread Julian H. Stacey
KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > Isn't what we are looking at here defamation of character?? Our beloved=20 > Daemon is being accused of browser history stealing! Yes, an abuse. Interesting skimming the article though, if heavy on the math. Earlier, ref: > From: Oliver Fromme > Message-id: <201002081220.o

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Bernd Walter writes: You can *not* lose copyright through dilution, only trademarks. At worst, you might lose an infringement suit if the defendant can show that you knew about *that particular case* long before you filed suit, but it would

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"Julian H. Stacey" writes: > "Dag-Erling Smørgrav" writes: > > There is no need to register a trademark. > Agreed, probably no Need, > but there might be some benefit to some commercial interests. In this particular case? I'd say it's just a waste of money. > There's Linux trademarks in Germa

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Sorry, for my last post, editing error jhs@ -- =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote: > There is no need to register a trademark. Agreed, probably no Need, but there might be some benefit to some commercial interests. > Kirk owns the *copyright* to > the image, which is valid worl

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:27:16 +0100 > Message-id: <86eikuk317@ds4.des.no> =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote: > "Julian H. Stacey" writes: > > I asked someone who registers trademarks as part of her

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread Oliver Fromme
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Bernd Walter writes: > > There is no copyright in Germany. > > Yes, there is. Germany is signatory to the Berne convention. That's correct, of course. I think what Bernd actually meant is that Copyright is not the same as the German "Urheberrecht". They have a

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread Bernd Walter
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 03:30:37PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Bernd Walter writes: > > There is no copyright in Germany. > > Yes, there is. Germany is signatory to the Berne convention. Ah - I was misslead by a lawyer, but I think he wasn't refering to copyright as such, but was just m

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Bernd Walter writes: > There is no copyright in Germany. Yes, there is. Germany is signatory to the Berne convention. > I'm not a lawyer, but there are many differences to copyright and I > think the main one is that the German system automatically protects > without the need to explicitly decl

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread Bernd Walter
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 01:27:16PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > "Julian H. Stacey" writes: > > I asked someone who registers trademarks as part of her job: > > One can apply to register a trademark in {(my (Julian) brackets) at > > least all of} Germany Britain America {etc}. She s

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"Julian H. Stacey" writes: > I asked someone who registers trademarks as part of her job: > One can apply to register a trademark in {(my (Julian) brackets) at > least all of} Germany Britain America {etc}. She spoke of > an international form where one ticks the countries one >

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Oliver Fromme wrote: > Ruben de Groot wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 08:05:10PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey typed: > > > PS an undefended trade mark loses its right to further defence or some > such, > > > (I'm not a lawyer). > > > > It's not a trade mark, is it? It's copyrighted. That's a

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 08:05:10PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey typed: > > PS an undefended trade mark loses its right to further defence or some > > such, > > (I'm not a lawyer). > > It's not a trade mark, is it? It's copyrighted. That's a whole other set of > laws.

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-07 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 08:05:10PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey typed: > > PS an undefended trade mark loses its right to further defence or some such, > (I'm not a lawyer). It's not a trade mark, is it? It's copyrighted. That's a whole other set of laws. Ruben _

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-05 Thread Kirk McKusick
I have gotten word from the authors that they are aware of the problem and are correcting it (e.g., taking out the daemon). Kirk McKusick =-=-=-= From:Engin Kirda Date:Wed, 3 Feb 2010 19:03:49 +0100 To: mckus...@mckusick.com Subject: BSD logo misuse Cc: Gilbert Wondrac

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-05 Thread Julian H. Stacey
From: "Julian H. Stacey" > > Date:Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:30:29 +0100 > > To: Christoph Kukulies > > Subject: Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil > > Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Kirk McKusick > > Organization: http://www.be

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-02 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 03 February 2010 am 06:36:21 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Kirk McKusick wrote: > > Thanks for the pointer. As you note, the damage (or benefit :-) is > > done. Still I have sent an email to the editor at Spiegel notifying > > them of my copyright in the hopes that they will at least ask in the

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-02 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 02 February 2010 pm 23:21:12 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Look here: > > http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-51396-2.html > it reminds me of movies in which good guys use Apple, bad guys Windows. Erich ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org m

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-02 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 13:09:29 -0800, Kirk McKusick wrote: > Thanks for the pointer. As you note, the damage (or benefit :-) is > done. Still I have sent an email to the editor at Spiegel notifying > them of my copyright in the hopes that they will at least ask in the > future. FWIW, muc

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
m:"Julian H. Stacey" > Date:Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:30:29 +0100 > To: Christoph Kukulies > Subject: Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil > Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Kirk McKusick > Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Con

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-02 Thread Kirk McKusick
ue, 02 Feb 2010 19:30:29 +0100 To: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Kirk McKusick Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Look he

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Look here: > > http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-51396-2.html ( Well spotted Christoph ! ) For those that don't read German, tracing back, Text article starts here http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,675395,00.html That is in German,

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-02 Thread jhell
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:21, kuku@ wrote: Look here: http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-51396-2.html -- Christoph OH! no! someone quick get a Microsoft Solicitation! "I mean solution" -- jhell ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing li

our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-02 Thread Christoph Kukulies
Look here: http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-51396-2.html -- Christoph ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@fre