Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-22 Thread Anonymous
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scott Mitchell writes: : Don't suppose you have a URL handy for those articles? I'm contemplating : building a dual-Celery box so it's probably good to know this stuff. : Although, with the Celerons over here selling for around half the price of : an equivalent P-II

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <19990620193722.51...@goatsucker.org> Scott Mitchell writes: : Don't suppose you have a URL handy for those articles? I'm contemplating : building a dual-Celery box so it's probably good to know this stuff. : Although, with the Celerons over here selling for around half the price of : a

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous
On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 04:57:25PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > By broke, I mean that they don't scale well due to cache effects. I > think it may just be a size thing, but it might also be a cache > coherency protocol ineffeciencies as well. The articles I've seen > show that for typical workloa

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-21 Thread Scott Mitchell
On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 04:57:25PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > By broke, I mean that they don't scale well due to cache effects. I > think it may just be a size thing, but it might also be a cache > coherency protocol ineffeciencies as well. The articles I've seen > show that for typical workload

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-20 Thread Pat Lynch
heh, it turns out it was the motherboard my motherboard does dual celerons just fine... (same model, Tyan Thunder 2). so its time to RMA it, sorry for the question ;) ___ Pat Lynch

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-20 Thread Andreas Braukmann
Hi, On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 01:03:10PM -0400, Marc Nicholas wrote: > Hmmm...I always thought there was something "broke" inside Celerons to > prevent SMP...maybe I'm wrong? Sure would be neat if you could run them > SMP... Since ca. 2 weeks I'm steadily 'beating the hell' out of this system: G

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message <87hfo4c6dj@dhcp9545042.columbus.rr.com> Shaun Rowland writes: : Do you mean the ones that don't have cache or the ones that have 128Kb : cache on the chip? Is there that big of a hit of the cache is on the : chip? I have seen some benchmarks and the system I have seemed to : keep

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message <87k8t0c6tp@dhcp9545042.columbus.rr.com> Shaun Rowland writes: : Well there is kind of. If you have a socket 370 adapter you can : un-break it. I am currently running dual Celeron 400's, and they : truly fly on this box! I can assure you it works without problems. By "broke" peop

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-19 Thread Pat Lynch
Wish that was the case for me, might just be my momboard ___ Pat Lynch ly...@rush.net ly...@bsdunix.net Systems Adminis

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-19 Thread Shaun Rowland
Warner Losh writes: > In message > Marc Nicholas writes: > : Hmmm...I always thought there was something "broke" inside Celerons to > : prevent SMP...maybe I'm wrong? Sure would be neat if you could run them > : SMP... > > What is "broke" about the Celerons is their cache. Without a good > ca

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-19 Thread Shaun Rowland
Marc Nicholas writes: > Hmmm...I always thought there was something "broke" inside Celerons to > prevent SMP...maybe I'm wrong? Sure would be neat if you could run them > SMP... > > > -marc Well there is kind of. If you have a socket 370 adapter you can un-break it. I am currently running du

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message Marc Nicholas writes: : Hmmm...I always thought there was something "broke" inside Celerons to : prevent SMP...maybe I'm wrong? Sure would be neat if you could run them : SMP... What is "broke" about the Celerons is their cache. Without a good cache sharing, you can't get good SMP pe

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-19 Thread Marc Nicholas
Hmmm...I always thought there was something "broke" inside Celerons to prevent SMP...maybe I'm wrong? Sure would be neat if you could run them SMP... -marc Marc Nicholas netSTOR Technologies, Inc. http://www.netstor.com "Fast, Expa

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-19 Thread Pat Lynch
Actually I have a "patch" that will get sound working on this board (its working in mine right now...) but it disables support for all the other ad1848 sound cards ;) I'm actually going through to make it work for all of them now (at worst its just a couple case statements *shrug*) If you are only

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-18 Thread Jim Bryant
In reply: > Heya, sorry I tried this one on -stable and -questions and noone seems to > know, and they actually go so far as to ask me how I got two celerons in a > motherboard... > > so I ask here. > > I have two PPGA(Socket 370) Celeron 333A's that are on MSI6905 Dual Socket > 1 adaptors... >

Re: SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-18 Thread James E. Housley
Pat Lynch wrote: > > Heya, sorry I tried this one on -stable and -questions and noone seems to > know, and they actually go so far as to ask me how I got two celerons in a > motherboard... Couple of things. freebsd-smp is probably the best list. > > I have two PPGA(Socket 370) Celeron 333A's th

SMP and Celerons...

1999-06-18 Thread Pat Lynch
Heya, sorry I tried this one on -stable and -questions and noone seems to know, and they actually go so far as to ask me how I got two celerons in a motherboard... so I ask here. I have two PPGA(Socket 370) Celeron 333A's that are on MSI6905 Dual Socket 1 adaptors... a Tyan Thunder 2 motherboard