Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 26 January 2001 at 9:47:38 -0500, Jim Sander wrote: >>> Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is >>> wrong with the card. > >> Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards in FreeBSD > >These cards work well in our many 3.x and 4.x systems. > >But I just buil

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Dennis
At 11:43 AM 01/26/2001, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote: >Mike Wade writes: > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > Performance isn't even the main thing. As I said earlier, it's plain > > > bloody unreliable. Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they > > > think something is wrong wi

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Dennis
At 09:47 AM 01/26/2001, Jim Sander wrote: > > > Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is > > > wrong with the card. > > > Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards in FreeBSD > >These cards work well in our many 3.x and 4.x systems. > >But I just built up a Redhat 6.2

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Dennis
At 08:51 AM 01/26/2001, Mike Wade wrote: >On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > Performance isn't even the main thing. As I said earlier, it's plain > > bloody unreliable. Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they > > think something is wrong with the card. They were surprised whe

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Aleksandr A.Babaylov
Mike Wade writes: > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > > Performance isn't even the main thing. As I said earlier, it's plain > > bloody unreliable. Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they > > think something is wrong with the card. They were surprised when I > > reported that it

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Jim Sander
> > Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is > > wrong with the card. > Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards in FreeBSD These cards work well in our many 3.x and 4.x systems. But I just built up a Redhat 6.2 box with one, and all seemed to be working fine, but

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Mike Wade
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > Performance isn't even the main thing. As I said earlier, it's plain > bloody unreliable. Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they > think something is wrong with the card. They were surprised when I > reported that it works without any problems

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 25 January 2001 at 12:54:17 -0600, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:12:42PM -0500, Dennis wrote: >> At 10:58 PM 01/24/2001, Jonathan Lemon wrote: >>> In article >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> you write: > >>I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and s

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Sergey Babkin
David Greenman wrote: > > >>I don't know what list you are looking at, but the download list that > >> I was > >>looking at did not include SCO, Unixware or any other Unix variant except > >>Linux. > > > >This is the list. > > > >NDIS2, NDIS3, NDIS4 and NDIS5 drivers > >

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:00:47PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > The case with the intel driver is the "ASSumption" that > its been done correctly and that the procedures for using the functions > available are correct. Bahwhahahahah. Right. Yeah, right. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Dennis
At 12:48 PM 01/25/2001, David Greenman wrote: > >>I don't know what list you are looking at, but the download list that > >> I was > >>looking at did not include SCO, Unixware or any other Unix variant except > >>Linux. > > > >This is the list. > > > >NDIS2, NDIS3, NDIS4 and NDIS5 drivers > >

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:12:42PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > At 10:58 PM 01/24/2001, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > >In article > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >you write: > > > > > >> > > >> >I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything > > >> > useful in it. Historically the Linux Pr

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Dennis wrote: > At 01:24 PM 01/25/2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > If they have a published, freely distributable driver for linux. why would > > > you have to sign an NDA to port it to FreeBSD? > > > >You don't. But reverse engineering isn't always complete. > > > there

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Dennis
At 01:24 PM 01/25/2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > If they have a published, freely distributable driver for linux. why would > > you have to sign an NDA to port it to FreeBSD? > >You don't. But reverse engineering isn't always complete. there is a difference between "reverse engineering" and por

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
> If they have a published, freely distributable driver for linux. why would > you have to sign an NDA to port it to FreeBSD? You don't. But reverse engineering isn't always complete. I should know- having gone through hell for the Gigabit NIC for *BSD... mostly reverse engineered from the Lin

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Dennis
At 10:58 PM 01/24/2001, Jonathan Lemon wrote: >In article >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >you write: > > > >> > >> >I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything > >> > useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally > sucked and > >> > was chalk-full of magic n

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread David Greenman
>>I don't know what list you are looking at, but the download list that >> I was >>looking at did not include SCO, Unixware or any other Unix variant except >>Linux. > >This is the list. > >NDIS2, NDIS3, NDIS4 and NDIS5 drivers > Novell Netware* Client 3.11, 3.12

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Dennis
At 08:52 PM 01/24/2001, David Greenman wrote: > >David Greenman wrote: > >> > >> >supporting it if someone ported it over to freebsd? they have drivers for > >> >just about every other major OS except BSD. it would be nice if the > driver > >> >was updated BEFORE cards and MBs that dont work star

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Matthew Jacob
> On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 21:07:45 -0800, Matt Jacob wrote: > >> > >> I've come in in the middle of this discussion, so maybe there's > >> something I don't know, but on the same hardware and running FreeBSD, > >> I had no problems. Why should we want to replace the driver with > >> so

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 21:07:45 -0800, Matt Jacob wrote: >> >> I've come in in the middle of this discussion, so maybe there's >> something I don't know, but on the same hardware and running FreeBSD, >> I had no problems. Why should we want to replace the driver with >> something which

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > I've come in in the middle of this discussion, so maybe there's > something I don't know, but on the same hardware and running FreeBSD, > I had no problems. Why should we want to replace the driver with > something which doesn't work well? There's been a hint of 'vendor supported' T

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 17:08:16 -0500, Dennis wrote: > >> >>>I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything >>> useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and >>> was chalk-full of magic numbers being anded and ored. >> >> That's "ch

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >> >> >I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything >> > useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and >> > was chalk-full of magic numbers being anded and ored. >> >>That's "chock full", and you

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread David Greenman
>David Greenman wrote: >> >> >supporting it if someone ported it over to freebsd? they have drivers for >> >just about every other major OS except BSD. it would be nice if the driver >> >was updated BEFORE cards and MBs that dont work started showing up on the >> >loading dock. Every time I get a

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Sergey Babkin
David Greenman wrote: > > >supporting it if someone ported it over to freebsd? they have drivers for > >just about every other major OS except BSD. it would be nice if the driver > >was updated BEFORE cards and MBs that dont work started showing up on the > >loading dock. Every time I get a shipm

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread David Greenman
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Greenman writes: > >> "drivers for every major OS"? They have drivers for Windows, Window/NT, >>and Linux. Of those Linux is the closest to FreeBSD, but that's like saying >that a penguin is similar to a human because they are both mammals. > >Pinguins are

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Greenman writes: > "drivers for every major OS"? They have drivers for Windows, Window/NT, >and Linux. Of those Linux is the closest to FreeBSD, but that's like saying that a penguin is similar to a human because they are both mammals. Pinguins are birds..

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread David Greenman
>> >I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything >> > useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and >> > was chalk-full of magic numbers being anded and ored. >> >>That's "chock full", and you're confusing the Becker driver (bad) with >>the

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Dennis
> > >I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything > > useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and > > was chalk-full of magic numbers being anded and ored. > >That's "chock full", and you're confusing the Becker driver (bad) with >the In

RE: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Koster, K.J.
> > 2) I don't have any boards that don't work correctly. > I have several. If you send me your surface-mail address, I can ship one to you. Kees Jan You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: s

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Smith
>Primarily for two reasons: 1) I didn't know that Intel had released Linux > driver source, and 2) I don't have any boards that don't work correctly. I don't either, anymore, sorry. 8( >I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything > useful in it. Historically the

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-23 Thread David Greenman
>> I guess they changed their >> policy on the part. I've tested the linux driver with the new part on the >> supermicro board and it works, so the driver is reasonably up to date. > >The source-available Intel driver does actually look pretty good. I >don't know why David has failed to track

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Smith
> >I think he's refering to the 82559 manual. It is available from Intel to > >developers, but only with an NDA. For various reasons, I can't sign an NDA > >for that information without putting myself in legal jeopardy. That has always > >been true, but I was able to obtain the [now older] 825

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-23 Thread Dennis
At 01:38 PM 12/19/2000, David Greenman wrote: > >> Your stupidity is also is emphasized by the fact that no major > manufacturer > >> has supported drivers for freebsd. Intel wont even help by providing > docs. > >> Bravo. What a WIN for the freebsd community. You've done a tremendous job > >> m