On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:24:34PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote:
> OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on
> your root partition. By Murphy's Law it always seems to be root that gets
> screwed up. And that also causes the biggest problems because then you
> have to ya
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wes Peters writes:
: SanDisk does, in the controller chip. Good technology.
Ah. that explains why I didn't see it in the datasheets on the cell
chips... That, or I'm starting to come down with CRS :-)
Warner
To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with
Warner Losh wrote:
>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Douglas Swarin writes:
> : Ideally, I would use one of the IDE flash-based drives on the market. One
> : brand is SanDisk, and they take a standard IDE connector and fit into a
> : 3.5" drive bay. You can get them very reasonably priced up to
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000, Douglas Swarin wrote:
> Ideally, I would use one of the IDE flash-based drives on the market. One
> brand is SanDisk, and they take a standard IDE connector and fit into a
> 3.5" drive bay. You can get them very reasonably priced up to 128MB or
> so, which is just fine for a
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alfred Perlstein
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:51 PM
> > > To: Edward Elhauge
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Frustration with SCSI system
> > >
> &g
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 05:44:32PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Douglas Swarin writes:
> : Ideally, I would use one of the IDE flash-based drives on the market. One
> : brand is SanDisk, and they take a standard IDE connector and fit into a
> : 3.5" drive bay. You can
20 Sep 2000 22:02:50 +
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: [EMAIL PROTE
Whoops, sorry about the previous misfire...
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Edward Elhauge writes:
> : to autorecover on bad sectors, but every system that I've had to recover
> : seems to be in a state where the bad sectors aren't remapping. I've tried
>
> I've often wanted to write a bad bloc
Mike wrote:
>
> I've used various Seagate SCSI drives exclusively in all of my boxes and
> only had one failure, which I was still able to recover all the data from
> before replacing it. The first box I built back in '97 had an UW Seagate in
> it that I bought used, and it was very heavily used
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Douglas Swarin writes:
: Ideally, I would use one of the IDE flash-based drives on the market. One
: brand is SanDisk, and they take a standard IDE connector and fit into a
: 3.5" drive bay. You can get them very reasonably priced up to 128MB or
: so, which is just f
h a
> non working server.
>
> Keith Kemp
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alfred Perlstein
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:51 PM
> > To: Edward Elhauge
> > Cc: [EMAIL PRO
TECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alfred Perlstein
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:51 PM
> To: Edward Elhauge
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Frustration with SCSI system
>
>
> * Edward Elhauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [00092
Sergey Babkin writes:
> "Aleksandr A.Babaylov" wrote:
> > David Scheidt writes:
.
> > > SCSI just works, on everything I've ever used it.I've had a
> > > occaisonal problems with things like termination. High quality
> > > cables and enclosures solve this. I wouldn't let an IDE disk
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Sergey Babkin wrote:
:Plus different manufacturers have different reliability -
:if you use Seagate SCSI disks and someone else's IDE then you most
:certainly will see a lot more SCSI disk failures.
:
:-SB, Seagate Hater
:
I've had almost a thousand Seagates in service for a
I've used various Seagate SCSI drives exclusively in all of my boxes and
only had one failure, which I was still able to recover all the data from
before replacing it. The first box I built back in '97 had an UW Seagate in
it that I bought used, and it was very heavily used for 2 years, and I
"Aleksandr A.Babaylov" wrote:
>
> David Scheidt writes:
> > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote:
> > :I work since 1991 with computer hardware and know exact
> > :that SCSI drives is about ten times less reliability than
> > :IDE. Yes, I understand that SCSI was more ... extremal may
> Cabling... most of troubles caused by cables for me - it is
> reason I do not believe external devices.
> Most of IDE breaks was long ago - last about 3 or 4 years ago.
> SCSI drives breaks are quite regular - 1 or 2 in at least 5
> last years.
> this is for about 50 SCSI drives near me and abo
David Scheidt writes:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote:
> :I work since 1991 with computer hardware and know exact
> :that SCSI drives is about ten times less reliability than
> :IDE. Yes, I understand that SCSI was more ... extremal may be.
> :I am wery glad that now mostly no ne
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote:
:I work since 1991 with computer hardware and know exact
:that SCSI drives is about ten times less reliability than
:IDE. Yes, I understand that SCSI was more ... extremal may be.
:I am wery glad that now mostly no need in SCSI drives at all.
:Just
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc Tardif
writes:
: What would be the incentives to using vinum instead of simply
: concatenating drives in a RAID-1 array (or whatever) using ccd(4)?
RAID-5 now seems to be supported, which lets you take the loss of a
single disk more easily.
Warner
To Unsubs
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Edward Elhauge writes:
: to autorecover on bad sectors, but every system that I've had to recover
: seems to be in a state where the bad sectors aren't remapping. I've tried
I've often wanted to write a bad block remapper. While SCSI is
supposed to do this automati
Edward Elhauge writes:
> I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
> NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement.
>
> I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how
> to work reliably with them.
>
> I have installed UPS boxes on each machin
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:48:06PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 13:43] wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:24:34PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote:
> > > OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on
> > > your root partition. B
> "Edward" == Edward Elhauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Edward> OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't
Edward> use vinum on your root partition. By Murphy's Law it
Edward> always seems to be root that gets screwed up. And that
Edward> also causes the bigges
Keep your disk cool. If you're getting MEDIUM errors, you're disks are getting
toasted.
I'm also in SF, and I plain mostly have been shut down the last two days.
> Hello Freebsders,
>
> I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
> NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * Edward Elhauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 12:48] wrote:
> > Hello Freebsders,
> >
> > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
> > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement.
> >
> > I've had about six disk crashes
* Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 13:43] wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:24:34PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote:
> > OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on
> > your root partition. By Murphy's Law it always seems to be root that gets
> > screwed up. And th
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:24:34PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote:
> OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on
> your root partition. By Murphy's Law it always seems to be root that gets
> screwed up. And that also causes the biggest problems because then you
> have to ya
* Marc Tardif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 13:06] wrote:
> > > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
> > > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement.
> > >
> > > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how
> > > to work reliably with
If you're willing to go through strange install contortions, you can boot
off of an MFS (Or MD, depending on what version you use ) root filesystem
(copies stored in separate partition, on both disks you are mirroring) and
then have everything else mirrored. Then at least your running system
does
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Marc Tardif wrote:
:> > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
:> > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement.
:> >
:> > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how
:> > to work reliably with them.
:>
:> "man v
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 04:09:13PM -0400, Marc Tardif wrote:
> > > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
> > > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement.
> > >
> > > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how
> > > to work reliably
OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on
your root partition. By Murphy's Law it always seems to be root that gets
screwed up. And that also causes the biggest problems because then you
have to yank the system apart and find another host disk for booting.
Well spoken
> I have installed UPS boxes on each machine and that seems to have lowered
> the incidence of failure, but failures still happen; yesterday during our
> heat wave in the San Francisco area (possible brownouts also) I had
> another.
Lots of fans in the cases... I had a fan go out in one
> > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
> > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement.
> >
> > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how
> > to work reliably with them.
>
> "man vinum"
>
> software mirroring == good.
>
What w
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:58:27PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote:
> I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
> NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement.
>
> I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how
> to work reliably with them.
>
>
* Edward Elhauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 12:48] wrote:
> Hello Freebsders,
>
> I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from
> NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement.
>
> I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how
> to work reliabl
37 matches
Mail list logo
