Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Kent Stewart
Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Ah, the K7V already has as many PCI slots as you can drive off the existing > > > > bridge, and who wants ISA slots these days? Oh, there is the WaveLan ISA > > > > card I need... > > > > > > Right, that is exactly what I mean. I rather see a ISA/PCI combo slot that

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Mike Smith
> > > Ah, the K7V already has as many PCI slots as you can drive off the existing > > > bridge, and who wants ISA slots these days? Oh, there is the WaveLan ISA > > > card I need... > > > > Right, that is exactly what I mean. I rather see a ISA/PCI combo slot that I > > might use than this AMR t

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Kent Stewart
Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 05:06:33PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > And a horrible way to loose valuable PCB real estate that could have housed a > > > PCI/ISA slot. A modem line interface on an L-shaped 'blech' with a cable > > > to the mom board

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 05:06:33PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > And a horrible way to loose valuable PCB real estate that could have housed a > > PCI/ISA slot. A modem line interface on an L-shaped 'blech' with a cable > > to the mom board would be better IMHO. Would allow th

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Kevin M Geraci
The Athlon architecture is changing from slot-A to socket-A, so you might want to wait for the new chips. -Kevin On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:39:53AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Jun 2000

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Doug Rabson
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:39:53AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > > > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlo

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 10 June 2000 at 11:02:48 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 9 June 2000 at 19:06:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 10:29:45AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> On Thursday, 8 June 2000 at 17:33:13 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I'm c

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 9 June 2000 at 19:06:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 10:29:45AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Thursday, 8 June 2000 at 17:33:13 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: >>> Wilko Bulte wrote: I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the >>>

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Sergey Babkin
Mike Smith wrote: > > > "Nicole Harrington." wrote: > > > > > > Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will > > > not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to > > > be configured. :( > > > > That may be as well due to the bugs in Mylex

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Mike Smith
> "Nicole Harrington." wrote: > > > > Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will > > not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to > > be configured. :( > > That may be as well due to the bugs in Mylex soft. In this case, that's not c

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Sergey Babkin
"Nicole Harrington." wrote: > > Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will > not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to > be configured. :( That may be as well due to the bugs in Mylex soft. I have used different Mylex cards on a fe

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Aleksandr A.Babaylov
Narvi writes: > On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote: > > > > > I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy >Asys > > > > > has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent > > > > > experiences with them over the years). > > > > Ugh. I was s

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wes Peters
Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 11:38:54AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR > > > slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board > > > itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up o

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Mike Smith
> > > Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will > not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to > be configured. :( Try putting "SCSI" above anything else in the "boot order" menu. I've been trying for some time now to work out how

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Nicole Harrington.
Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to be configured. :( Ad that to the new BIOS that won't allow keyboardless reboots :( These came in a RED box. Nicole On 09-Jun-00 Wilko Bu

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 11:38:54AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR > > slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board > > itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it > > anyway. I've tri

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Mike Smith
> > Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR > slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board > itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it > anyway. I've tried to figure out what that slot does but I've only come > across marke

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Narvi
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote: > > > > > I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy Asys > > > > has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent > > > > experiences with them over the years). > > > > > > Ugh. I was suprised that I

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Michael Bacarella
> > > I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy Asys > > > has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent > > > experiences with them over the years). > > > > Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR > > slot, e

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Narvi
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:54:28PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > > > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have wi

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:59:58PM -0400, Michael Bacarella wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:54:28PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > > > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Michael Bacarella
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:54:28PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and > > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards t

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:54:28PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. Anybody using the Ab

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 10:29:45AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Thursday, 8 June 2000 at 17:33:13 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > >> > >> I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > >> $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlo

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:39:53AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and > > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards

RE: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Koster, K.J.
> > > EPoX == trash. Avoid like the plague. > > Buy EPoX. They're good. > > > ASUS K7v == good. > > ASUS K7v == slow. > > May 3 08:00:02 wantadilla /kernel: microuptime() went > backwards (65202.831743 -> 65202,804412) > In fact, I've seen the microuptime stuff doing bonnies on FreeBSD 4

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Doug Rabson
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. We have one at work and it works fine. We

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Coleman Kane
I have heard of a few problems with the k7m... but I don't have any firsthand experience with them. FIC on the other hand has made some pretty good motherboards, and are probably the last company that needs to be bashed as far as quality goes. ASUS and FIC are probably the two best mobo companies,

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 8 June 2000 at 21:00:22 -0400, Luke wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wes Peters wrote: >> Wilko Bulte wrote: >>> >>> I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the >>> $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and >>> FreeBSD. And obviously

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Luke
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and > > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. > > ASUS K7

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 8 June 2000 at 17:33:13 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: >> >> I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the >> $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and >> FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep awa

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Nicole Harrington.
On 08-Jun-00 Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Nicole Harrington. wrote: >> >> On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote: >> > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the >> > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and >> > FreeBSD. And obviously which mo

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Wes Peters
Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. EPoX == trash. Avoid like the plague. ASUS K7v == good.

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread scanner
I *LOVE* my Tyan S2380 K7 Trinity MB. = -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | htt

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Nicole Harrington. wrote: > > On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and > > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. > >

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 11:57:25AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > fl == Florins? Yep! -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscrib

RE: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Nicole Harrington.
On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote: > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. > > Thks > Wilko I have good experiences so fa

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Matthew Jacob
fl == Florins? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message