RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-27 Thread Pegasus Mc Cleaft
> Subject: RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer > acceptable. Bounty established...) > > > Sean Cavanaugh writes: > > > AMD is actively working to opensource the *nic drivers for the > > ATI cards starting with the most recent. From a new

RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-27 Thread Robert Huff
Sean Cavanaugh writes: > AMD is actively working to opensource the *nic drivers for the > ATI cards starting with the most recent. From a news article iI > came across they were actually hiring a whole new department > whose sole purpose was to add more of the older cards to the open > sorce

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-27 Thread gb . public
Hi, > The sake of completeness, I think it's worth mentionning that when > using > nspluginwrapper, it is theorically possible to run the Flash plugin > (and > other ones too) inside QEMU. This is possible but slow and I used a very old version of QEMU. IIRC, the OpenSUSE wiki mentions how to do

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-27 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hi, On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:03:08AM -0600, Mark Carlson wrote: > I've found wine + firefox + flash to work for everything I've tried so > far (youtube, various websites with flash ads, one or two flash-only > sites.) It did crash on me once, but I'm not sure it was related to > flash. Wine is

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-26 Thread George Hartzell
Mike Meyer writes: > [...] > I'm not sure those are the drivers Theierry wants. The proprietary > driver was called fglrx, not "radeon" or "radeonhd". Those two drivers > have been in the X open source trees for quite a while now. I first > started using the radeon driver on amd64 in late 2006

RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-26 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
> fglrx is the only way that anyone's going to get true 3D OpenGL> support, and > the last time I checked that wasn't available except for> ancient cards on > FreeBSD.> > AMD was supposed to be helping ATI, but it appears that after > the> merger all that's happened is a website change and ATI's

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:00:09 -0400 "Ben Kaduk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-25 Thread David E. Thiel
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 09:21:53PM +0100, RW wrote: > > Btw there is a small nasty problem copy/paste from wine app to native > > apps does not work. Ideas how to workaround this? > > It's only the traditional X, select and middle-click, that > doesn't work in my experience > > The windows-styl

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-25 Thread RW
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:52:30 +0300 Stefan Lambrev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried this before and have a bad luck of not having working audio > on flash, but today with new wine and FF3 it works. > > Btw there is a small nasty problem copy/paste from wine app to native > apps does not work.

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-25 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:00:09 -0400 "Ben Kaduk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD > > drivers (and the related 3D acceleration) to work under Free

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-25 Thread Ben Kaduk
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Thierry Herbelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Wednesday 25 June 2008, Ben Kaduk a écrit : >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> > is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD >> > drivers

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-25 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Le Wednesday 25 June 2008, Ben Kaduk a écrit : > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD > > drivers (and the related 3D acceleration) to work under FreeBSD-AMD64 ? > > Well, I'm using

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-25 Thread Ben Kaduk
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD > drivers (and the related 3D acceleration) to work under FreeBSD-AMD64 ? > Well, I'm using radeonhd right now on a [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/s

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-25 Thread Stefan Lambrev
Greetings, Mark Carlson wrote: On 6/24/08, Naram Qashat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Julian Stacey wrote: Do you have a "How To" RTFM Cook book / script URL please ? I'd like to chime in here and say there is nothing special to get this configuration to work. Download the Wind

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Mark (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:41:07 -0600) * | I'm not at my box right now, but it went something like this: | ... | I might write up some better instructions when I have the time, but | I really don't have a good place to put them. `---* Th

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread David E. Thiel
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 01:40:44PM -0600, Mark Carlson wrote: > 0. Install wine ( emulators/wine ) > 1. Download firefox for windows ( > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html ) > 2. Run: wine "Firefox Setup 3.0.exe" > 3. Complete the installer > 4. To run firefox you need to do something li

3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-24 Thread Thierry Herbelot
[CC trimmed] Le Tuesday 24 June 2008, Garrett Cooper a écrit : > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Scott T. Hildreth > [SNIP] > > (not designed to be troll-bait, just my personal opinion on the matter > -- don't comment on it please) FWIW, Personally I don't think that > Flash support is as critica

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:36:42 -0400 Naram Qashat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Julian Stacey wrote: > > "Mark Carlson" wrote: > >> On 6/19/08, John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > . Elided ... > >>> [1] Since we're all probably already running Linux Binary > >>> Compat anyway... > >>

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Mark Carlson
On 6/24/08, Naram Qashat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Julian Stacey wrote: > > Do you have a "How To" RTFM Cook book / script URL please ? > > > > I'd like to chime in here and say there is nothing special to get this > configuration to work. Download the Windows version of Firefox and install >

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Naram Qashat
Julian Stacey wrote: "Mark Carlson" wrote: On 6/19/08, John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . Elided ... [1] Since we're all probably already running Linux Binary Compat anyway... I've found wine + firefox + flash to work for everything I've tried so Do you have a "How To" RTFM

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Julian Stacey
"Mark Carlson" wrote: > On 6/19/08, John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . Elided ... > > [1] Since we're all probably already running Linux Binary > > Compat anyway... > > I've found wine + firefox + flash to work for everything I've tried so Do you have a "How To" RTFM Cook book / s

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Scott T. Hildreth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 08:41 -0700, John Kozubik wrote: >> >> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> > > Quoting John Kozubik <[

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Mark Carlson
On 6/19/08, John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Don't shoot the messenger: > > > FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to > support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. > > > Running IE in Wine is not a solution. > > Running another OS in vmware to

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Scott T. Hildreth
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 08:41 -0700, John Kozubik wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > Quoting John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 > > > 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): > > > > > > > Fi

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread John Kozubik
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Quoting John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 > > 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): > > > > > First, a bounty has been posted here: > > > > > > http://blog.kozubik.com/joh

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Scott T. Hildreth
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 > 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): > > > First, a bounty has been posted here: > > > > http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html > > > Maybe the bou

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Roman Divacky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:16 +0200): On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:06AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Quoting John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): >First, a bounty has been posted here: > >http://blog.

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): First, a bounty has been posted here: http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html From the site: ---snip--- I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread OutBackDingo
Believe it or not, there is useful content on the web in Flash : > > Google [Flash filetype:swf site:nasa.gov] > (without the brackets). There might be useful content, but that surely doesnt mean FreeBSD itself as a desktop isnt usable, I think saying using firefox/flash for flash based websites

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Roman Divacky
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:06AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting John Kozubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 > 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): > > >First, a bounty has been posted here: > > > >http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html > > > > From the si

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Matt Olander
On Jun 20, 2008, at 12:01 AM, Murray Stokely wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:59 PM, David E. Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 02:37:48PM -0700, John Kozubik wrote: FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to support Flash in a stable, well-

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Murray Stokely
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:59 PM, David E. Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 02:37:48PM -0700, John Kozubik wrote: >> FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to >> support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. > > Nonsense. This presumes anyt

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-19 Thread David E. Thiel
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 02:37:48PM -0700, John Kozubik wrote: > FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to > support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. Nonsense. This presumes anything "useful" has ever been written in flash. > Free flash alternatives and flash

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-19 Thread Pietro Cerutti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 John Kozubik wrote: | | Don't shoot the messenger: | | | FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to | support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. gnash-devel provides flash 9 and works pretty well... | | | Runnin

Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-19 Thread John Kozubik
Don't shoot the messenger: FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. Running IE in Wine is not a solution. Running another OS in vmware to simply browse the web is not a solution. Free flash alternatives and fla