Re: FYI

2001-10-19 Thread Doug Hass
Tim, Your license with SBS for the DDK would prevent you from posting your code. If you read through it, you'll find that it prohibits the release of any of their DDK code under any circumstances. You could release everything EXCEPT the API for the card that SBS provides and offer the rest in o

Re: FYI

2001-10-17 Thread Doug Hass
as someone who claims GPL only or GPL preferred. The license terms of add-on drivers and products should be set according to the needs of the authoring person or company, in my opinion. Doug On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, void wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 12:19:34PM -0500, Doug Hass wrote: >

Re: FYI

2001-10-17 Thread Doug Hass
> > If anyone has an interest in adding support for the SBS WAN cards to > > FreeBSD, feel free to contact me. I'll be glad to help. > > Just package your driver with your cards, or stick it on your support > site. The whole point being that you don't *have* to get your code into > the tree;

Re: FYI

2001-10-17 Thread Doug Hass
gs would directly impact that. This will be my last message on this topic. I feel as if this discussion is going round and round and has no real end or purpose at this point. I'll quit wasting bandwidth. :-) If anyone has an interest in adding support for the SBS WAN cards to FreeBSD, feel

RE: FYI

2001-10-17 Thread Doug Hass
> Doug, in the entire history of the FreeBSD project, when given a choice > between a better driver or code that is closed source, and a worse > driver that has open source, the FreeBSD community has never chosen the > driver or code with closed source. In fact I can only remember ONCE > that the

RE: FYI

2001-10-17 Thread Doug Hass
> Is there any way to get some of this - NOT under GPL and NOT under NDA? > There's at least one person during this thread who was looking for a > DS-3 card like a WANic 8xx You _did_ mention that some of the card modules > in SAND are not under NDA? All of the code is licensed under either the

RE: FYI

2001-10-16 Thread Doug Hass
Better than a published interface and white paper, we also provide the direct code itself. You could certainly make a netgraph/SAND interface module. Doug On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Doug Hass wrote: > > > > The "h

RE: FYI

2001-10-16 Thread Doug Hass
re interested, the code is available, and that we've pledged money toward it, I'd like to see someone in the community start working toward a solution, instead of complaining about how there isn't one. Regards, Doug - Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: FYI

2001-10-16 Thread Doug Hass
> There is depending on the price. I'll freely admit however that I have not > priced the competitive serial sync cards that are currently supported > under FreeBSD, so I don't know how the WANic 400 or 500 stacks up against > them. For all I know right now there's someone just bringing a T1 int

RE: FYI

2001-10-16 Thread Doug Hass
> The "hardware API" or the actual register interface code, is a binary-only > module that is "snapped in" to SAND. SAND is GPL and is similar to the > FreeBSD Netgraph module - it provides all the higher-level protocol stuff, > like > Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and such. SAND goes between the OS T

RE: FYI

2001-10-15 Thread Doug Hass
and" the current cards are, the more money we'll pledge to make sure that FreeBSd drivers exist for ALL of the cards. My phone number is below. If these cards and the future of the drivers are as important as everyone who has posted says they are, let's move quickly toward a solution. Regards, Doug - Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.imagestream.com Office: 1-219-935-8484 Fax: 1-219-935-8488 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: FYI

2001-10-15 Thread Doug Hass
the community. Why don't you contact me privately and we'll get you an order of the cards so that we can accomplish the above. Regards, Doug - Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.imagestream.com Office: 1-219-935-8484 Fax: 1-219-935-8488

Re: FYI

2001-10-15 Thread Doug Hass
ed above, we CAN license the driver code and the DDK for development. This means that you could produce FreeBSD drivers which we could then distribute in a binary form under a free end-user license. Regards, Doug - Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.image

RE: FYI

2001-10-15 Thread Doug Hass
community. 3) Virtually ALL of our customers, save for OEMs making their own products, purchase complete routers. Going this route would eliminate the need to have FreeBSD support, as any user would have a standalone router. Regards, Doug - Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions [EMAIL P

Re: FYI

2001-10-14 Thread Doug Hass
or your sales partners, but the way I see it, this means that tons >of these will be available for a song on eBay > soon, and will be in the hands of a lot of FreeBSD and Linux people [not all of >which can afford top-of-the-line all of the time]. > > Doug Hass wrote: > > &

Re: FYI

2001-10-14 Thread Doug Hass
or your sales partners, but the way I see it, this means that tons >of these will be available for a song on eBay > soon, and will be in the hands of a lot of FreeBSD and Linux people [not all of >which can afford top-of-the-line all of the time]. > > Doug Hass wrote: > > &g

RE: FYI

2001-10-14 Thread Doug Hass
feel free to contact me at your convenience. Regards, Doug ----- Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.imagestream.com Office: 1-219-935-8484 Fax: 1-219-935-8488 On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > There are other vendors that sell the WanIC tha

Re: FYI

2001-10-12 Thread Doug Hass
le in special quantity builds. If anyone reading this message needs further information, please contact me directly and I can go into further depth about the EOL cards mentioned below and their replacements in the SBS line. Regards, Doug ----- Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROT