Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Mark Felder wrote: To be fair, it could be worse -- OpenBSD secretly wants you to run snapshots and CURRENT as the RELEASEs are mostly unmaintained outside of the most extreme security concerns. Even the packages are kept at the exact version of the time of release. =

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Mark Felder wrote: linux is, in fact, an operating system. debian, red hat, ubuntu, gentoo, etc are distributions of that OS. It's not really worth getting into this argument, but I'll reiterate that no, it's not an OS -- it's a kernel. Without the userland utilities the

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Chris Rees wrote: > what percentage of linux devs are on salary to develop linux? > You're not comparing like with like. Linux is not an OS; FreeBSD is. Are you talking about Linux? Debian? Red Hat? linux is, in fact, an operating system. debian, red h

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, richo wrote: This would be a different argument if all the devs were paid a salary. == what percentage of linux devs are on salary to develop linux? -- ...atom http://atom.smasher.org/ 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-17 Thread Atom Smasher
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Yuri wrote: On 01/16/2012 17:03, Atom Smasher wrote: i bought myself a LENOVO T510 when it first came out, around early 2010. it's got an i5 CPU and Arrandale GPU. it's two years old and on freeBSD i STILL can't run xorg properly with it. linux has ru

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-16 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, richo wrote: I'm very aware that the code I produce for $WORK is very different to code I write in my own time. Code for $WORK is wrapped in test cases, clean, neat and well documented. code I write in my own time tends to be hackish, incomplete totally undocumented and

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-01-16 Thread Atom Smasher
thanks john. i've been a long-time (10+ years) freeBSD user (desktops, laptops, servers, and anywhere else i can run it) and advocate (encouraging others to at least check it out) and also a long-time satisfied johnco customer. my freeBSD days seem to be coming to an end. i bought myself a L

freebsd under qemu - slow

2011-06-10 Thread Atom Smasher
new laptop: LENOVO, 4313CTO, ThinkPad T510 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 540 @ 2.53GHz Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) Arrandale 4G RAM (DDR3-10600) old laptop: Acer, Navarro, Aspire 5100 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36 1995.02-MHz 2.5G RAM apparently video on freebsd isn't y

Re: tr A-Z a-z in locales other than C

2011-06-07 Thread Atom Smasher
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: maybe another option would be modifying tr to recognize other [new] environment variables... TR_LANG, TR_LC_ALL, TR_LC_CTYPE and TR_LC_COLLATE. done that way, things could be set in /etc/make.conf (or sys.mk), not need any patching, and not interfere

Re: tr A-Z a-z in locales other than C

2011-06-07 Thread Atom Smasher
the man page makes it clear... Translate the contents of file1 to upper-case. tr "[:lower:]" "[:upper:]" < file1 (This should be preferred over the traditional UNIX idiom of ``tr a-z A-Z'', since it works correctly in all locales.) for any other uses, either build

Re: How to disallow logout

2010-09-10 Thread Atom Smasher
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Ivan Voras wrote: 1) power outage of the server 2) power outage on the client 3) network problems (ssh or TCP connection drop) 4) administrative command (e.g. root executes "killall $shell") ? I don't think there is a way to protect from all of those, so any effort in pro

Re: How to disallow logout

2010-09-09 Thread Atom Smasher
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Aryeh Friedman wrote: I have a directory that must not exist on logout and rm -rf is not sufficent to do it because the contents need to be processed by our version control system. = what i would do... make an alias or function of "logout" and/or "exit"

intel i5 - core? or core2?

2010-08-20 Thread Atom Smasher
hardware: MACH: x86_64 (LENOVO, 4313CTO, ThinkPad T510) CPU: x86_64 (Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 540 @ 2.53GHz) FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0 (amd64) in "/etc/make.conf" i tried setting "CPUTYPE=core" but as soon as i start building things, lang/perl5.10 fails, complaining about "core" not being

Re: sysctl way too slow

2010-07-14 Thread Atom Smasher
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Ed Schouten wrote: So what about other sysctls? Is it just these sysctls? It may be the case that these values are not simply read from some variable in the kernel, but really performs some hardware calls. Still, 436 msec is quite a lot of time. === getti

Re: sysctl way too slow

2010-07-14 Thread Atom Smasher
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:49:07PM +1200, Atom Smasher wrote: the same info is available on linux via /sys and /proc and on comparable hardware, i can get the info about 100x faster. Are you sure that Linux is not just caching the data? I know

Re: sysctl way too slow

2010-07-14 Thread Atom Smasher
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Dominic Fandrey wrote: It probably depends on your BIOS. This is the same call on my system: % time sysctl -n hw.acpi.battery.life hw.acpi.battery.time hw.acpi.battery.state 100 -1 0 sysctl -n hw.acpi.battery.life hw.acpi.battery.time hw.acpi.battery.state 0.00s user 0.01s

sysctl way too slow

2010-07-14 Thread Atom Smasher
http://smasher.org/tmp/zsh-bsd-sysctl-slow.png is there a way to get this information that doesn't take so long? the same info is available on linux via /sys and /proc and on comparable hardware, i can get the info about 100x faster. thanks... -- ...atom

Re: bad RAM? prove it with a crash dump?

2010-05-06 Thread Atom Smasher
On Thu, 6 May 2010, Boris Kochergin wrote: My experience with bad memory is that if it causes the machine to crash, it won't always happen while the machine is running the same process (or kernel thread)--so look for it crashing in a wide variety of places--and upon inspection of the core dump

bad RAM? prove it with a crash dump?

2010-05-06 Thread Atom Smasher
i suspect i've got bad RAM but memtest has run through several dozen iterations without a problem. my (3 year old) laptop will run for a few days or weeks and then crash/freeze/hang. i've enabled crash dumps and i'm wondering if/how the dump might be able to (dis)prove that the RAM is bad. any

Re: kenv - output needed

2010-03-24 Thread Atom Smasher
thanks! if anyone has any input that doesn't behave well, please let me know. also, this seems to be all x86 variant hardware... does anyone have access to other hardware platforms? SHA1 (report_smbios.zsh.gz) = 0afc4c7a5170eaf549b7a1c42d8793861433c654 SHA1 (smbios.txt.gz) = 612353d1c30f7c16f

Re: kenv - output needed

2010-03-23 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Andrew Thompson wrote: eval $(kenv | awk -F= '/^smbios/ { gsub("\\\.","_",$1); print $1 "=" $2}') echo $smbios_chassis_maker That's assuming that the there are only two tokens separated by = though... Maybe so

Re: kenv - output needed

2010-03-23 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Garrett Cooper wrote: Are you looking for data represented similar to sysctl(8)? it doesn't quite have to be, but it is being parsed in a script. -- ...atom http://atom.smasher.org/ 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4

Re: kenv - output needed

2010-03-23 Thread Atom Smasher
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Andrew Thompson wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 05:12:47PM +1300, Atom Smasher wrote: i'm trying to figure out what might be reasonable output from kenv. on the three machines that i have access to i'm already seeing wide variations of formatting and usefulness.

kenv - output needed

2010-03-22 Thread Atom Smasher
i'm trying to figure out what might be reasonable output from kenv. on the three machines that i have access to i'm already seeing wide variations of formatting and usefulness. i'd like to collect as much output as i can get (off-list should be fine) from one of these two commands: 1) prefer

Re: Security Flaw in Popular Disk Encryption Technologies

2008-02-26 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Achim Patzner wrote: You might want to take a look at eNova (http://www.enovatech.net/) who are pointing at interesting hardware using their crypto technology. = the idea of closed-source hardware-based crypto disk drive may appeal to some, but i've seen t

Re: find -lname and -ilname implemented

2008-02-24 Thread Atom Smasher
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Warner Losh wrote: <> agree. Or course, we may need to adopt features from bash into our /bin/sh as time marches forward. === i'll disagree on this one. linux (that i've seen) uses a symlink from sh to bash. if you execute /bin/sh, it's running bash. if you

Re: find -lname and -ilname implemented

2008-02-24 Thread Atom Smasher
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: The problem with this argument is that there are no limits on it, other than the developers definition of "trivial". OS X has already carried this argument to the point that they've replaced /bin/sh with bash. === i've seen that on li

Security Flaw in Popular Disk Encryption Technologies

2008-02-23 Thread Atom Smasher
article below. does anyone know how this affects eli/geli? from the geli man page: "detach - Detach the given providers, which means remove the devfs entry and clear the keys from memory." does that mean that geli properly wipes keys from RAM when a laptop is turned off? -- ...atom

disk throughput

2008-01-16 Thread Atom Smasher
i've got this running in one term: systat -iostat 1 and this in another term: dd if=/dev/acd0 bs=2048 count=123456 | md5 apparently the system only knows about throughput of mounted disks? is that a bug or a feature? -- ...atom http://atom.sm

Re: Stale mount on disconnected device: how to delete it?

2007-12-18 Thread Atom Smasher
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, they do happen fairly often, usually caused by USB-related stuff (FreeBSD's USB stack is _the_ worst I've seen lately -- I take it that the stack's favorite hobby is panicking the kernel with unrivaled efficiency), sometimes by ATA/A

Re: handling pdfs?

2007-11-29 Thread Atom Smasher
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Gary Jennejohn wrote: xpdf allows printing of page ranges. I use it all the time. == oh yeah... and kprinter, if you have it installed, can also do that, but can act as a pipe with postscript files as an input ;) kprinter < file.ps it has most/all o

Re: handling pdfs?

2007-11-27 Thread Atom Smasher
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: /usr/ports/print/pdftk/ that's a good first choice, but if it doesn't work (amd64) then a second choice is print/pdfjam and/or print/psutils-(letter|a4)... and ghostscript for pdf2ps and/or ps2pdf... but yeah, pdftk is best if it works

no console bell

2007-09-27 Thread Atom Smasher
i've got this laptop running great, but i haven't been able to get a console bell working on it. in the BIOS setup i can get a really loud beep from the mobo speaker (so i know it's there and working), but otherwise i can't get any sound from it. for a while i had 'device speaker' in the kernel