Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Chris Zumbrunn
On 30. Jun 2004, at 3:01, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: While Mach is derived from 4.3BSD (circa 1986~1988), there's been about 15 years worth of divergence since then. For example, FreeBSD is monolithic while Mach is more micro-kernel based. Also the driver models are quite different, eg Darwin uses IO

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Roman Bogorodskiy
Lucas wrote: > Here's an idea.. install FreeBSD 5.2.1 and use the ports collection to > get PearPC. Then you can get a license to OSX and run it. > > I read the hardware support list, and sound doesn't even work yet in > pearpc. It might be more beneficial to buy a used Mac. I have a > Fre

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Martin Olsson wrote: Hi, * MacOS X is based on FreeBSD * there is a x86 kernel for FreeBSD Does that mean I can buy a copy of MacOS X, download an x86 kernel for freeBSD, do some (or quite alot of) hacking and then get MacOS X running on my PC? take a look at the Darwin project. I realize th

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 29), zera holladay said: > > Even more interestingly, just how much code has migrated from > > Darwin to FreeBSD? Apple seems to do a lot of taking from the Open > > Source community, how much have we taken much back? > > I was wondering about this ... there was a thread n

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread zera holladay
> Even more interestingly, just how much code has > migrated from Darwin to > FreeBSD? Apple seems to do a lot of taking from the > Open Source > community, how much have we taken much back? I was wondering about this ... there was a thread not too long ago about Darwin and FreeBSD. Somebody made

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Lev Walkin
Alasdair Lumsden wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 21:20, Lev Walkin wrote: MacOS X is based on multiple concepts, including Darwin. Darwin is based on FreeBSD. "Darwin is based on FreeBSD" - technically, no :) Darwin is a continuation of NeXT Step which is based on the Mach kernel. While Mach is deri

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Eitarou Kamo
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Lucas Holt
I have pearpc installed from ports. I'm having trouble installing 10.1. In fact, i can't seem to get the cd to even boot at this point. Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] FoolishGames.com (Jewel Fan Site) JustJournal.com (Free blogging) __

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 03:24, Eitarou Kamo wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: > >There are bits of FreeBSD in the kernel.. > >the majority of the importing has been in the userland however where > >the UNIX userland is mostly based on FreeBSD (or so I'm told) > > There seem to be some stories about Mac

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Julian or guys, Julian Elischer wrote: There are bits of FreeBSD in the kernel.. the majority of the importing has been in the userland however where the UNIX userland is mostly based on FreeBSD (or so I'm told) There seem to be some stories about Mac X. I have read the article which menti

Re: Setting Standby Mode for ATA Disks

2004-06-29 Thread Igor Pokrovsky
On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 06:38:51PM +0100, Markie wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Arne Schwabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 5:51 PM > Subject: Setting Standby Mode for ATA Disks > > > | Hi, > | > | is there a way to set the standby mo

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Lucas Holt
Here's an idea.. install FreeBSD 5.2.1 and use the ports collection to get PearPC. Then you can get a license to OSX and run it. I read the hardware support list, and sound doesn't even work yet in pearpc. It might be more beneficial to buy a used Mac. I have a FreeBSD desktop and an Ibook.

Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-06-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday 29 June 2004 09:16 pm, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > This recently caught my eye: > http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9171/sam0406h/0406h.htm > > There are a number of good sounding suggestions in there. They gave a paper on it at USENIX ATC as well. -- John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <><

Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-06-29 Thread Bruce M Simpson
This recently caught my eye: http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9171/sam0406h/0406h.htm There are a number of good sounding suggestions in there. BMS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscri

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 21:20, Lev Walkin wrote: > > MacOS X is based on multiple concepts, including > > Darwin. Darwin is based on FreeBSD. > > > "Darwin is based on FreeBSD" - technically, no :) > > Darwin is a continuation of NeXT Step which is

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 21:20, Lev Walkin wrote: > MacOS X is based on multiple concepts, including > Darwin. Darwin is based on FreeBSD. "Darwin is based on FreeBSD" - technically, no :) Darwin is a continuation of NeXT Step which is based on the Mach kernel. While Mach is derived from 4.3BSD (c

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Allan Fields
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:01:49PM +0200, Martin Olsson wrote: > Hi, > > * MacOS X is based on FreeBSD > * there is a x86 kernel for FreeBSD And a lot of other sources too. Not a drop-in replacement. You can Run Mac OS X or Darwin/PPC on FreeBSD w/ PearPC ( http://pearpc.sf.net ). And it's pre

Re: ipfw add allow ip from @access_list1 to any in

2004-06-29 Thread Max Laier
On Wednesday 30 June 2004 03:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello freebsd-hackers, > > > Hi, > for my own purposes I add some new features to ipfw2. > now hereis patches for 5.1 > Luigi some time ago have a look at ones, but now.. > if it is looks like interesting, get and enjoy it free >

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:01:49PM +0200, Martin Olsson wrote: > Hi, > > * MacOS X is based on FreeBSD > * there is a x86 kernel for FreeBSD > > Does that mean I can buy a copy of MacOS X, download an x86 kernel for > freeBSD, do some (or quite alot of) hacking and then get MacOS X running > on

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Lev Walkin
Martin Olsson wrote: Hi, * MacOS X is based on FreeBSD * there is a x86 kernel for FreeBSD Does that mean I can buy a copy of MacOS X, download an x86 kernel for freeBSD, do some (or quite alot of) hacking and then get MacOS X running on my PC? I realize that such hacking would be quite substant

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Does that mean I can buy a copy of MacOS X, download an x86 kernel for : freeBSD, do some (or quite alot of) hacking and then get MacOS X running : on my PC? No. MacOS X is for PowerPC, not Intel. Also, the

FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Martin Olsson
Hi, * MacOS X is based on FreeBSD * there is a x86 kernel for FreeBSD Does that mean I can buy a copy of MacOS X, download an x86 kernel for freeBSD, do some (or quite alot of) hacking and then get MacOS X running on my PC? I realize that such hacking would be quite substantial but maybe if I f

802.1x for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Ivan Voras
I proudly anounce that I've managed to make a workable port of open1x xsupplicant for FreeBSD :) I don't actually have a wireless card, and only nead it in 'wired' mode (e.g. over ethernet), so the wireless bits almost certainly won't work. Anyway, the patch is at http://www.sharanet.org/~ivora

Re: Peeking BPF

2004-06-29 Thread Lev Walkin
Ivan Voras wrote: I need to convert this code: ret = recvfrom(thisint->sockInt, &resultframe, 1520, MSG_PEEK, 0, 0); if (ret > 0) return TRUE; to use BPF. Essentialy, how to find out if a packet is available over the BPF interface? try to read() it and read() will hang there until there is data in

Re: PCI memory alloc..!

2004-06-29 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Auge Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : While I was trying to track to find out how a device alloc a new memory : resource, I have been little confused on finding out how the new PCI device : can deal with a case when the activation calls pmap_mapdev?

ipfw add allow ip from @access_list1 to any in

2004-06-29 Thread sid
Hello freebsd-hackers, Hi, for my own purposes I add some new features to ipfw2. now hereis patches for 5.1 Luigi some time ago have a look at ones, but now.. if it is looks like interesting, get and enjoy it free this is not a release, I stil work about it. and I wait for 5.3 to ma

Peeking BPF

2004-06-29 Thread Ivan Voras
I need to convert this code: ret = recvfrom(thisint->sockInt, &resultframe, 1520, MSG_PEEK, 0, 0); if (ret > 0) return TRUE; to use BPF. Essentialy, how to find out if a packet is available over the BPF interface? -- What part of "Ph'nglui mglw'nath Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" don't you unde

No flames please: Linux mknod compatibilty

2004-06-29 Thread João Carlos Mendes Luís
Hi everybody, First of all, please copy all answers back to me, since I am not anymore subscribed to -hackers. (Panic: time fault) I´ve done some changes to the kernel mknod(2) handling to make it more compatible to the Linux behaviour, allowing one to create files of type VREG, VSOCK

Re: A few technical items on UFS2 and snapshots...

2004-06-29 Thread Oliver Fromme
Joe Schmoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joe Schmoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. Is it dangerous to mount all 20 possible > > > filesystem snapshots and > > > _leave them mounted_ to use at any time ? > > > > I don't think there is any dang

Re: Getting MAC address?

2004-06-29 Thread Alecs King
On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 11:15:45AM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: > > I was looking at it and came across getifaddrs(). This function does not > depend on a open socket (yes, mine is AF_LINK, sockaddr_dl), and > apparently returns a list of all interfaces. Is there really no other > way than to trave

PCI memory alloc..!

2004-06-29 Thread Auge Mike
Hi all, While I was trying to track to find out how a device alloc a new memory resource, I have been little confused on finding out how the new PCI device can deal with a case when the activation calls pmap_mapdev What I need to understand that what will happen if pmap_mapdev allocated a n

Re: Wacom Graphire3 USB Tablet and FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:29:39 +0100 Arvid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello people, > > I have a bit of a problem to get my Wacom Graphire3 (USB) to work > with FreeBSD. At first I thought I was doing something wrong, but it > seems that FreeBSD doesnt understand it. I know it works with > OpenBS