Re: USB stack / configuration 0

2004-01-07 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:04:37AM +0100, Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] wrote: > For the device this means having to switch the ROM image with the RAM image > which is impossible while running in the specific processor. Thus the > processor tells it's core to map RAM into code-space and resets itself. Af

ADMtek USB To LAN Converter and HomePNA

2004-01-07 Thread Dinesh Nair
hey, i have one of the above. it's a usb device which connects to a HomePNA network, with a 10/100Mbps ethernet port as well as a couple of RJ11s for the HomePNA connection. my problem is i am unable to utilize this device to connect to the HomePNA network. upon plugging it in, the console says:

Adaptec 1210SA SATA RAID - need help

2004-01-07 Thread Clau
Hi, I have this problem with an Adaptec 1210SA S-ATA RAID controller... I want to install FreeBSD 5.1 but it doesn't work with the controller. 5.1 crashes in sysinstall, when probing for devices. I don't know exactly why, but this happens even if the controller is out of the computer. maybe becaus

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Matt Emmerton
> > 3) Simple but time consuming requests from developers > > > > - Isn't it possible to have developers pass off some of > > their simple tasks to others? Think of it like a "pet dog". > > Your dog may be able fetch your newspaper but he couldn't read it. > > Still fetching the newspaper take

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Ryan Sommers
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 20:29, Nick Rogness wrote: > 1) Allow for paid development for a specific bug/feature > >- Setup some program that allows users like myself to pay for a > developers time to fix a specific bug. The company I work for > would easily pay serious dolla

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Nick Rogness
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > In short, you can put all the effort you want in, but -core > > and many with a commit bit will resent you for it, because > > you're just a user. > > What you may be interpreting as resentment may actually just > be frustration at being once again

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:57 AM -0500 1/7/04, Leo Bicknell wrote: Speaking with a user hat on, I'll comment on what I believe is the crux of the 5.x issue. The take away I see is that this was too big of a chunk. The next bite planned needs to be smaller. I agree with this observation, but then it's easy to see that i

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:It is INTERESTING to comment on someone whose viewpoint doesn't extend :beyond the VM system, because out of Greenman, me and even Matt Dillon, :(and the extremely respected alc), I don't know of any people :with a myopic VM viewpoint. An example of that might be Matts ability :and succes dealin

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 12:42 PM +0100 1/7/04, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Paul Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If 5.3, when it arrives, is genuinely production ready, trust > me, the drinks are on me - I will do my absolute best to get > to the next BSDcon and get everybody drunk on an expense > account. If

RE: switching between groups

2004-01-07 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Adil Katchi wrote: > Unfortunately, newgrp(1) would not work, because it calls setgroups, > which for some weird reason, needs the caller to be a superuser. Isn't > there a function that sets the groups (like setgroups) of the current > process where you don't have to be a su

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > [1] has core@ considered subversion (devel/subversion)? Everyone has their eyes wide open looking for a revision control alternative, but last time it was discussed in detail (a few months ago?) it seemed there still wasn't a viable alternative.

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2004-01-07 14:29:35 +: > Paul Robinson writes: > > And for those of you who normally shout "Submit a patch" - well, I'm > > thinking about it. :-) > > I've been thinking of your objection to the "submit a patch" reply, > and I offer this as a proto-thought on how it can

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Lanny Baron
Hi, Leo Bicknell wrote: [snip] For FreeBSD to appeal to the masses it must install on the latest and greatest Dell or Gateway or whatever, which means it must include drivers for today's cheaper-by-the-gross parts from China. Driver updates in particular need to be very regular, and in the acti

RE: switching between groups

2004-01-07 Thread Adil Katchi
Unfortunately, newgrp(1) would not work, because it calls setgroups, which for some weird reason, needs the caller to be a superuser. Isn't there a function that sets the groups (like setgroups) of the current process where you don't have to be a superuser? To maintain security, that function cou

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > From a practical point of view that has been rapidly breaking down > over the last 6-12 months. People need features in 5.x. Various > people have decided (for good reason, I'm not questioning the > decisions) that a large number of features go into 5.

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 10:22:44AM -0500, Lanny Baron wrote: > Just what we are wondering. Where is all the FreeBSD community support > for a Server company that fully supports FreeBSD? It certainly is not in > this letter. Disclaimer: Until this message I didn't know www.F

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 02:09:33AM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > FreeBSD-5 was always going to be problematical. There have > probably been more things changed for this major version than for any > previous major version in history, maybe even for all previous major >

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Mark Murray
Paul Robinson writes: > "In short, you can put all the effort you want in, but -core and many > with a commit bit will resent you for it, because you're just a user." > > 4. In private I've already apologised for that particualr comment as I > realise now it was very "Daily Mail" of me to make i

Re: reading raw data from a CD-R with damaged table of contents

2004-01-07 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Kevin Serwick wrote: > Hi all, > > I added some files to a multisession CD-R with the > burncd command. It appeared to work fine, but when I > read the disk, the new files didn't show up. So I did > the burncd fixate command - bad idea! Now nothing > shows up! (burncd's no Nero Burnin

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:28 PM + 2004/01/06, Paul Robinson wrote: Accepted. It came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and therefore can only represent my own opinion. In the future, may I suggest that you make this sort of statement more clear at the beginning? It sounded to me like you were standing up as a self-app

reading raw data from a CD-R with damaged table of contents

2004-01-07 Thread Kevin Serwick
Hi all, I added some files to a multisession CD-R with the burncd command. It appeared to work fine, but when I read the disk, the new files didn't show up. So I did the burncd fixate command - bad idea! Now nothing shows up! (burncd's no Nero Burning Rom! Live and learn... Is the GUI burning

Re: Who's the troll?

2004-01-07 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Rahul Siddharthan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [is Bill Huey the troll?] > > Does anybody seriously believe this? Mark Murray, a FreeBSD core team member, publicly said this on an archived and searchable mailing list. That's my problem with it. Nobody cares wh

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 08:52:37PM +, Colin Percival wrote: > At 20:31 06/01/2004, Mark Linimon wrote: > >There are hundreds of PRs still to be processed that do have > >patches -- in fact, on most days the backlog is getting bigger, > >not smaller. > > Speaking of which... if there's one th

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Hi, Time to force use of gnupg or something like that to prevent this to happen. Just an opinion. Yours, Nuno Teixeira On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 02:52:58PM +0100, Maxime Henrion wrote: > Hi all, > > > Since several people actually thought this mail was written by me, I'm > replyi

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Mark Linimon
> The only thing any of the committers cares about is what they think. > Got a problem? Submit a patch. Don't like the way things are done? > Submit a patch. Don't like how such-and-such a util works? Submit a > patch. Please suggest an alternative, given that almost all the labor is volunteer lab

Who's the troll? (was: Where is FreeBSD going?)

2004-01-07 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Paul Robinson wrote: > All I'm suggesting (and no, I'm not the troll, but I'd thank him, > whoever he is), I would not thank the troll -- anyone with legitimate concerns can air them under their own names (like you did), otherwise they don't deserve to be taken seriously. That said, I have a big

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread jsd
Wes Peters said: [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > On Monday 05 January 2004 11:14 am, Brett Glass wrote: > > I'd like to see a more open and inclusive form of governance for > > FreeBSD. The current system of governance has, as its underlying > > assumption, that the most p

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:35 PM + 2004/01/06, Paul Robinson wrote: The cleverness of the "troll" was: 1. It was written by somebody who at the least had read these lists for at least the last two years Maybe. It would be easy enough to skim the archives. 2. It aired the real frustrations of those of us wit

switching between groups

2004-01-07 Thread Adil Katchi
I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas how it's possible for a user that belongs to multiple groups to somehow limit his or her own capabilities by using only one of the n groups that they belong to and be able to switch between these groups? For example, if userA belongs to groupA, groupB a

switching between groups

2004-01-07 Thread Adil Katchi
I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas how it's possible for a user that belongs to multiple groups to somehow limit his or her own capabilities by using only one of the n groups that they belong to and be able to switch between these groups? For example, if userA belongs to groupA, groupB a

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Shaun Jurrens
fwiw, the original mail was mine, written almost a year ago. Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:15:27 +0100 From: Shaun Jurrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: dillon@'s commit bit: I object To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I still stand by my original thoughts, I didn't reproduce this from any faked e-mail a

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Paul Robinson
I wrote: Mark has mailed me off-list. His tone isn't great. I probably deserve the "Fuck off. Go away." I'l deal with that seperately. :-) A few things to say about this: 1. I was not quoting Mark verbatim here. He didn't tell me to go away in the same paragraph. :-) 2. It was a private e-mai

Re: USB stack / configuration 0

2004-01-07 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 20:34, Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] wrote: > > Reead your spec - it's not part of USB itself. > > As long as there are a lot of usefull devices that use the DFU spec, to me > it seems no more than logicle to implement it in FreeBSD, no matter how > dumb the system may sound :)

Re: USB stack / configuration 0

2004-01-07 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 18:37, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > If this is part of the Spec, then the spec is dump too. > > > > Err yes, this IS USB we're talking about here :) > > Reead your spec - it's not part of USB itself. > umass, ulpt, etc are extensions. > It is even that a mass storage devic

Re: Where is FreeBSD going?

2004-01-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Paul Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If 5.3, when it arrives, is genuinely production ready, trust me, the > drinks are on me - I will do my absolute best to get to the next > BSDcon and get everybody drunk on an expense account. If it isn't, > well, I'll just have to whisper "I told you so"

Re: rcng guru needed

2004-01-07 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 01:05:57PM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: > after all my confusions, my problem was solved once netif was made > executable. It's always one of those inconspicuous details :) -- B.Walter BWCThttp://www.bwct.de [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rcng guru needed

2004-01-07 Thread Danny Braniss
after all my confusions, my problem was solved once netif was made executable. danny > > while hunting down the problem that my diskless configuration is not > starting the loopback interface i came about the following: > > rcorder does not list network, but it does network_ipv6 > further check

Re: USB stack / configuration 0

2004-01-07 Thread Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 09:07, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 05:34:05PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 January 2004 17:08, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > > I don't think it IS a dumb device, there is a USB spec called DFU > > > > which covers it and the hosts job

Re: USB stack / configuration 0

2004-01-07 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 05:34:05PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Wednesday 07 January 2004 17:08, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > I don't think it IS a dumb device, there is a USB spec called DFU which > > > covers it and the hosts job is to do the reenumeration. > > > > Sparing a transistor to offl

Re: USB stack / configuration 0

2004-01-07 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 17:08, Bernd Walter wrote: > > I don't think it IS a dumb device, there is a USB spec called DFU which > > covers it and the hosts job is to do the reenumeration. > > Sparing a transistor to offload the work to the host were its also > way more complex to do is dump. >