On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 11:47:59AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Simon Dick writes:
> : Please don't remove the SurfRider one:
> : sio0: port 0xa400-0xa407 irq 12 at device 10.0 on
>pci0
> : sio0: moving to sio2
> : sio2: type 16550A
> :
> : It was me who submitted
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>Behalf Of Louis A. Mamakos
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:31 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: void; Matt Dillon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards
>
>
>
>> I
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 10:51:25PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> When we have a choice, we take the BSD code and improve it as necessary.
> Otherwise, we take what we can get. Sometimes, even, companies that release
> the stuff
> closed source end up opening it up when they see that by doing
>-Original Message-
>From: Doug Hass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:20 AM
>To: Mike Smith
>Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant; MurrayTaylor;
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: FYI
>
>I'm glad someone else is speaking up--all I'
> >Doug; I would recommend against falling for Ted's flamebait here, since
> >that's really all it is.
>
> That's silly, what did you find in it that's flamebait? I think you didn't
> read it.
You're a) misrepresenting the project, b) dismissing the opinions and
statements of others that are
>-Original Message-
>From: Mike Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:46 AM
>To: Doug Hass
>Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant; MurrayTaylor;
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: FYI
>
>
>> > Doug, in the entire history of the Fre
>-Original Message-
>From: Doug Hass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:10 AM
>To: void
>Cc: Mike Smith; Ted Mittelstaedt; Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant;
>MurrayTaylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: FYI
>
>
>If you didn't say it, then you weren
>-Original Message-
>From: Doug Hass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:19 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant; MurrayTaylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: FYI
>
>
>> Doug, in the entire history of the FreeBSD project, w
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Sergey Babkin wrote:
> And directly comparing the number of nodes with Beowulf-style
> clusters is not fair. The Beowulf clusters can be reasonably
> efficiently used only for a very limited class of problems
> with very high parallelism of subtasks, high computational
> comp
Also, for those interested, a sample 'report' XML entry is available at:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/status/report-sample.xml
Which can be used to lower my workload by pre-formatting your status
report. You can also submit in plain text and I'll do the conversion
manually.
Thanks!
Robert N
Ronald G Minnich wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Rayson Ho wrote:
>
> > http://ssic-linux.sourceforge.net/
>
> A collection of some really bad ideas, not likely to scale well. Note that
> they've got up to 30 nodes, wow. Double it once and that's where this kind
> of "global everything" idea st
At 12:50 PM -0700 10/17/01, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>I fully support your idea of offering a "bounty" to anyone writing
>drivers for your cards and think you're being more than generous in
>offering it. I wish more vendors would do that and I'm sorry that
>this discussion has gotten as polarized as
> I am perfectly aware of this.
>
> The RBOCs deserved to have those "fines" levied against them for a number
> of years, to punish them for attempting to block the CLECs. However, it's
> been long enough for this, and in fact the money from the RBOCs is no longer
> being used to increase the C
some snipping done:
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:21:55 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Cyclades Technical Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Len Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: PC400
>X-Virus-Scanned: by VirusGate.MEIway.com
>X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hi Len,
> My answers are below.
>Rega
On Sunday, October 14, 2001, Robert Watson wrote:
> For future reports, we will also support SGML submissions using a style
> sheet developed by Nik Clayton.
Those who wish to submit reports in the aforementioned XML
format, see http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/status/report-sample.xml
-- and reme
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jordan Hubbard writes:
>I fully support your idea of offering a "bounty" to anyone writing
>drivers for your cards and think you're being more than generous in
>offering it. I wish more vendors would do that and I'm sorry that
>this discussion has gotten as polari
> We certainly support the right for companies to protect their intellectual
> property in whatever way they see fit, even if the FreeBSD community does
> not.
Oh my. I can see that we've gone somewhat polemic here.
As someone who's been around since the very beginning, I think I can
fairly sta
Let me cut through all this with a bit of experience if you permit:
1. BSD licensed sources are undoubtedly always preferred.
2. Other open-source licences are the best alternative.
3. closed source solutions are always risky because you don't know
if the company will be willing to, or even
If you didn't say it, then you weren't the one I was talking about, was I?
:-)
I got several other private mails saying that BSD licensed code was the
one and only way, and 2 or 3 mails (from Ben, among others) saying that
BSD-licensed was preferred.
Either approach is as flawed as someone who
* Doug Hass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011017 12:51] wrote:
> > > If anyone has an interest in adding support for the SBS WAN cards to
> > > FreeBSD, feel free to contact me. I'll be glad to help.
> >
> > Just package your driver with your cards, or stick it on your support
> > site. The whole point
> > If anyone has an interest in adding support for the SBS WAN cards to
> > FreeBSD, feel free to contact me. I'll be glad to help.
>
> Just package your driver with your cards, or stick it on your support
> site. The whole point being that you don't *have* to get your code into
> the tree;
Thomas Dixon writes:
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| On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, John Baldwin wrote:
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| >
| > On 16-Oct-01 Thomas Dixon wrote:
| > > I'm trying to make a bootable CD using the cdboot program that come with
| > > freeBSD in /sys/i386/boot/cdboot. The computer I'm trying to do this on
| > > definately boots ot
> It's not a generalization at all. Honestly, compared to the market
> traction that Linux, VxWorks, Solaris and others have, FreeBSD is
> definitely without legs. The WAN card and RAS card markets are good
> examples of where the attitude toward "BSD-licensed code or bust" has
> resulted in Fre
There are a fair number of differences, but from my perspective, one of
the primary ones is that truss relies on procfs, whereas ktrace uses a
seperate kernel tracing facility. For sites wanting to avoid procfs due
to its history of security vulnerabilities, having truss rely on procfs
means that
> > We certainly support the right for companies to protect their intellectual
> > property in whatever way they see fit, even if the FreeBSD community does
> > not.
>
> Doug; I would recommend against falling for Ted's flamebait here, since
> that's really all it is. His characterisation of th
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Zhihui Zhang wrote:
>
> I was using FreeBSD a while ago, suddenly a lot of messages show up:
>
> Limiting closed port RST responses from 224 to 200 packets per seconds.
>
> These messages persist even after reboot. What happened? What should I do?
> Thanks!
>
> -Zhihui
Soun
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Could someone be port scanning you? Another possibility is that you
> > alot of machines are trying to contact a TCP service on the machine
> > in question, which isn't running.
>
> I've seen this while doing load testing.
>
> In general, you want th
On 17-Oct-01 Thomas Dixon wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, John Baldwin wrote:
>
>>
>> On 16-Oct-01 Thomas Dixon wrote:
>> > I'm trying to make a bootable CD using the cdboot program that come with
>> > freeBSD in /sys/i386/boot/cdboot. The computer I'm trying to do this on
>> > definately
> > Doug, in the entire history of the FreeBSD project, when given a choice
> > between a better driver or code that is closed source, and a worse
> > driver that has open source, the FreeBSD community has never chosen the
> > driver or code with closed source. In fact I can only remember ONCE
>
David Malone wrote:
> > I was using FreeBSD a while ago, suddenly a lot of messages show up:
> >
> > Limiting closed port RST responses from 224 to 200 packets per seconds.
> >
> > These messages persist even after reboot. What happened? What should I do?
>
> Could someone be port scanning you? A
> Doug, in the entire history of the FreeBSD project, when given a choice
> between a better driver or code that is closed source, and a worse
> driver that has open source, the FreeBSD community has never chosen the
> driver or code with closed source. In fact I can only remember ONCE
> that the
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>Behalf Of Louis A. Mamakos
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:43 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: void; Matt Dillon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards
>
>
>
>>
>
I was using FreeBSD a while ago, suddenly a lot of messages show up:
Limiting closed port RST responses from 224 to 200 packets per seconds.
These messages persist even after reboot. What happened? What should I do?
Thanks!
-Zhihui
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> On 16-Oct-01 Thomas Dixon wrote:
> > I'm trying to make a bootable CD using the cdboot program that come with
> > freeBSD in /sys/i386/boot/cdboot. The computer I'm trying to do this on
> > definately boots other CDs as it has booted several other
> Is there any way to get some of this - NOT under GPL and NOT under NDA?
> There's at least one person during this thread who was looking for a
> DS-3 card like a WANic 8xx You _did_ mention that some of the card modules
> in SAND are not under NDA?
All of the code is licensed under either the
>
> We have been told by our rep at Time Warner Communications that those payments
> are still continuing. TW (at least in PDX) does not have enough voice sales
> to be able to get on that pig trough and is equally unhappy as we are that the
> RBOC's are propping up what are in effect bankrupt
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