On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:28:49AM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote:
> >used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
> >4.3-STABLE.
>
> Dunno what LTO is, my Amanda server is FBSD 4.3
Linear Tape Open. Some industry-standard-to-be that wants to replace DLT.
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Mike Silbersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Write caching is now off by default. man ata to see how to turn it back
> on.
Mr. Silbersack, thank you very much. you've restored my
systems to their pre-4.3 stunningly fast behavior.
to the hackers group, i apologize for p
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Ed Hudson wrote:
>
> howdy.
>
> maybe this has been discussed in 'hackers' or elsewhere,
> before - i can't find a reference via the search interface.
>
> i'm a long time freebsd user, and i've been struck by how much my
> systems (3 of them) have slowed dow
howdy.
maybe this has been discussed in 'hackers' or elsewhere,
before - i can't find a reference via the search interface.
i'm a long time freebsd user, and i've been struck by how much my
systems (3 of them) have slowed down in its disk performance with
4.3-RELEASE, relat
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:54:40PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> 1. I don't think I've ever seen a Linux distro which has write
>caching enabled by default. Hell, DMA33 isn't even enabled
>by default ;)
You are talking about controlling the IDE drive cache.
The issue here is write cache
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:10:20PM -0400, James Howard wrote:
> I am missing something here. Is there a practical use for this? :)
You are not the only one. I can appreciate the `neat' factor, but I
cringed at the commit. It seems like functionality that would be
better put in a separat
SJ wrote:
>
> 2. Whats the use of device_ops structure and what does
>"ops" stand for?
"ops" definitely stands for "operations". I can't say off the top
of my head what this structure is but most probably a collection
of pointers to the functions of a particular driver which implement
the d
Any devices using the ppbus will end up sharing the hardware port. If i want
to access this resource info, should i store it in my local driver's softc
structure, or extract it from the parent device (ppbus)?
jcm
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On Wed, 23 May 2001, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > That's all well and good, but I thought the aim here was to compare
> > Linux and FreeBSD performance on as level playing field as possible?
> > You're not measuring FS performance, you're measuring FS p
Hi Steinar,
>I'm sure we could roll our based on freely available tools (eg. Amanda)
>- but by now I'm used to Tivoli ADSM/TSM, and *like* the convenience
>ADSM/TSM offers. We need the ability to make backups (via Fast Ethernet)
>primarily of FreeBSD servers, but also Solaris, Linux and HP-UX. E
:
:On Wed, 23 May 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
:
:> Nice one! I'm going to be using this all over the place myself.
:
:I am missing something here. Is there a practical use for this? :)
:
:Jamie
Many programs these days use unix-domain sockets as a rendezvous
for IPC between processes.
:
:Looking at the patch, is it safe to assume that if there's a '/' in a
:hostname, it MUST be a AF_UNIX socket? If so, wouldn't a strchr(hostp,
:'/') be better than 'hostp[0] == '/''? This way one can use relative paths
:as well, not just absolute ones.
:
:--
:[ Joseph Mallett<[EMAIL
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
> Nice one! I'm going to be using this all over the place myself.
I am missing something here. Is there a practical use for this? :)
Jamie
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Looking at the patch, is it safe to assume that if there's a '/' in a
hostname, it MUST be a AF_UNIX socket? If so, wouldn't a strchr(hostp,
'/') be better than 'hostp[0] == '/''? This way one can use relative paths
as well, not just absolute ones.
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Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't understand the inability to perform the trivial
> design engineering necessary to keep from needing to put
> 60,000 files in one directory.
Hear hear! ;) (Been waiting for that one)
> However, we can take it as a given that people who need
> to
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:20:51AM -0400, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
>
> Why is knowing the file names cheating? It is almost certain
> that the application will know the names of it's own files
> (and won't be grepping the entire directory every time it
> needs to find a file).
With 60,000 files
I'm seeking recommendation for a backup system (software) that can be
used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
4.3-STABLE.
I'm sure we could roll our based on freely available tools (eg. Amanda)
- but by now I'm used to Tivoli ADSM/TSM, and *like* the convenience
ADS
I've committed the patch, changing -/ to -u (note: you don't need the
option at all if you specify a path beginning with '/', as per Lyndon's
original code), to current (both non-crypto and crypto versions). I
will MFC it to stable in three days.
Nice one! I'm going to be u
:> ftp://orthanc.ab.ca/lyndon/freebsd/telnet.AF_UNIX.patch
:>
:> If someone with commit priv's thinks this is worth including, be
:> my guest.
:
:This is really cool, can you submit it as a PR?
:
:--
:-Alfred Perlstein [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't bother, I'll commit it right now as soon as
:A few months back I taught telnet about named sockets. We've found this
:very useful for testing things like IPC channels in our software
:(e.g. telnet /var/run/lmtp). I've put the (-STABLE) patches up at:
:
: ftp://orthanc.ab.ca/lyndon/freebsd/telnet.AF_UNIX.patch
:
:If someone with commit priv'
* Lyndon Nerenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010523 18:22] wrote:
> A few months back I taught telnet about named sockets. We've found this
> very useful for testing things like IPC channels in our software
> (e.g. telnet /var/run/lmtp). I've put the (-STABLE) patches up at:
>
> ftp://orthanc.ab.ca/l
A few months back I taught telnet about named sockets. We've found this
very useful for testing things like IPC channels in our software
(e.g. telnet /var/run/lmtp). I've put the (-STABLE) patches up at:
ftp://orthanc.ab.ca/lyndon/freebsd/telnet.AF_UNIX.patch
If someone with commit priv's think
Hi all,
We have a 4GB IBM xSeries 330 (1GHz PIII) and I can't get 4.3-RELEASE to
boot on it. I did set NKPT to 64 as suggested by DG about a week ago on
this list (this is also the reason I take this to -hackers rather than
-questions). Still, I get
panic: swap_pager_swap_init: swap_zone=NULL
wh
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:42:42PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:15:18PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote:
> > > > > Is there any specific reason why one needs to be able to
> > > > > write a lock to the CVS repo when running 'make update'
> > > > > to get a freshly checked ou
On Wed, 23 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Tell them to fire 20K packets/second at the linux box and watch it crumble.
> Linux has lots of little kludges to make it appear faster on some benchmarks,
> but from a networking standpoint it cant handle significant network loads.
>
Are you sure
Tell them to fire 20K packets/second at the linux box and watch it crumble.
Linux has lots of little kludges to make it appear faster on some benchmarks,
but from a networking standpoint it cant handle significant network loads.
Bryan
> > Hi,
> >
> > I appoligize if this is
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:04:15PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote:
| Thus spake j mckitrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
|
| > I'd like to finalize the newbus work by changing inb()/outb() calls to
| > bus_space_write calls. Is there a device where this has been partially done
| > already? I'd like to s
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:17:12AM -0400, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
>
> > > Did you enable write caching? You didn't mention, and it's off by
> > > default in 4.3, but I think enabled by default on Linux.
> >
> > I tried to leave the FreeBSD and Linux b
--- Alexander Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thus spake SJ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> Hi!
>
> > 1. "ioconf.c" contains struct config_resource and
> > config_device definitions for declarations in
> > "config" file. But I noticed that for some
> devices
> > e.g. device a
> According to Brian Somers:
> > Brett Glass (cc'd) has complained about a similar problem where it
> > seems that the ng_pppoe node is locked up. I can't reproduce the
> > problem here though :(
>
> Does the following help you :
[.]
Not really - I think we need ``physical'' logs so that
According to Brian Somers:
> Brett Glass (cc'd) has complained about a similar problem where it
> seems that the ng_pppoe node is locked up. I can't reproduce the
> problem here though :(
Does the following help you :
-=-=-
tun0: Timer: Begin of Timer Service List---
tun0: Timer: physica
Thus spake j mckitrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I'd like to finalize the newbus work by changing inb()/outb() calls to
> bus_space_write calls. Is there a device where this has been partially done
> already? I'd like to see the old and new styles, then i would fix the
It has been done to sys/dev
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:17:12AM -0400, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
> > Did you enable write caching? You didn't mention, and it's off by
> > default in 4.3, but I think enabled by default on Linux.
>
> I tried to leave the FreeBSD and Linux boxes as unchanged as possible for
> my tests (they ar
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Shannon Hendrix wrote:
> Where I live, the power gets worse every year. I lost quite a few ext
> filesystems, but only a couple of ufs and ext2 filesystems. Then I
> bought a 1920VA UPS and it's no longer an issue. I just found it easier
> to not lose power than to worry abou
I'd like to finalize the newbus work by changing inb()/outb() calls to
bus_space_write calls. Is there a device where this has been partially done
already? I'd like to see the old and new styles, then i would fix the
vpo/imm zip driver first, since i know that code well. After that, i could
st
Zitiere "Daniel C. Sobral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Note, though, that there is some very recent perfomance improvement on
> very large directories known as dirpref (what changed, actually, was
> dirpref's algorithm). This is NOT present on 4.3-RELEASE, though it
> _might_ have since been committed
Alexander Langer wrote:
>
> Thus spake SJ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
>
> The developer's handbook might be worth reading for you, also there
> are some tutorials on the website which explain a little.
Also check out -current's /usr/share/examples/drivers/make_device_driver.sh
>
> Alex
>
> --
> c
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:03:37AM -0400, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
> The scary thing is that it was the attached harddrive that lost all of the
> files. The situitation is this:
[snip]
Sorry to hear that, but like I said, it isn't typical. ext2 in it's
early days, an ext before that were really
Hi all,
I tried your tests on a quite different configuration, a PIII 800 with
1GB ram, with an AcceleRAID 170 controller and a single RAID5 pack of
4*8GB IBM SCSI drives. The system is a 4.3-rc2, NO softupdates, default
configuration.
Here are the results :
pm>set transactions 1
pm>set numb
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 06:53:37AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> > I cannot verify that with my drive, but my largest is 18GB so maybe
> > the difference is not as pronounced as on some newer drives like those
> > (currently) monster 70GB drives.
>
> It should be measurable.
Actually, I edit
Hmm,
I wonder if you can catch it again and do a ``set log local
physical'' and run ``tcpdump -i XXX -e not ip'' on the interface at
the same time ?
A ``ping -c 1'' should then show if ppp's sending the data out, and
if it is, if ng_ether is forwarding it.
I'm a little concerned about the MR
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Shannon Hendrix wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:03:33PM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote:
>
> > The data:
> >
> > Hardware:
> > Both machines have the same hardware on paper (although it is TWO
> > machines,
> > YMMV).
> > PII-300
> > Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller
> > IBM-DHEA-
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Terry Lambert wrote:
> I don't understand the inability to perform the trivial
> design engineering necessary to keep from needing to put
> 60,000 files in one directory.
>
> However, we can take it as a given that people who need
> to do this are incapable of doing computer
I just finished the FreeBSD test with
vfs.vmiodirenable=1 (it was 0 before)
6 simlultanious files, 1 transactions, FreeBSD
4.0-Release+Softupdates with write cacheing disabled. Results are pretty
much unchanged. Do you have to enable vmiodirenable at boot time for it
to take affect?
T
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Shannon Hendrix wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:49:21PM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote:
>
> > 6 files took ~15 minutes to create as is. I'm going to have to wait
> > until tonight to run larger sets. 2.2.16 is what we have here.
> > I'm still waiting to see how much fa
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Shannon Hendrix wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:31:34AM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote:
>
> > We only have three Linux boxes here (and one is a PC104 with a flash
> > disk) and already I've had to reinstall the entire OS once when we had a
> > power glitch. ext2fsck managed
Dear All,
An interview with Reiser just appeared on http://www.slashdot.org/
Just to add a little oil to the fire. :-)
Kees Jan
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but you can stay immature all your life.
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On Tue, 22 May 2001, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> Jason Andresen wrote:
> >
> > Results:
> > ufs+softupdates is a little slower than ext2fs+wc for low numbers of
> > files, but scales better. I wish I had a Reiserfs partition to
> > test with.
>
> Ext2fs is a non-contender.
>
> Note, though, that t
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> Jason Andresen wrote:
> >
> > If only FreeBSD could boot from those funky M-Systems flash disks.
>
> It can.
How? Nothing I found in the documentation indicated this, or gave any
sort hint as to how I might go about doing it. The Linux driver has
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:17:12AM -0400, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:27:27PM +0300, Nadav Eiron wrote:
> > > I ran tests that I think are similar to what Jason ran on identically
> > > configured FreeBSD and Linux/ReiserFS
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:02:01PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote:
The problem seems to be that FreeBSD's getcwd library call will
impliment the getcwd userland if the syscall fails or is unimplimented.
There are times when the syscall fails in normal operation and you
don't see this with the BSD stu
Dear Alfred,
>
> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24315
> >
> > The summary is that getcwd(3) under Linux emulation will fail really
> > hard after a rmdir.
> >
> I've looked at your email and the PR, the problem that I have is that
> I have no clue as to what it should return. C
> The proposed filesystem is most likely Reiserfs. This is a true
> journalling filesystem with a radically non-traditional layout.
> It is no problem to put millions of files in a single directory.
> (actually, the all-in-one approach performs better than a tree)
>
> XFS and JFS are similarly ca
* Koster, K.J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010523 05:48] wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I just ran into a problem with the linuxulator, triggered by the Linux JDK
> that I use for my development.
>
> Markus kindly pointed me to this PR:
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24315
>
> The summary is t
Shannon Hendrix wrote:
>
> > And just to get things worse... :-) the test must be made on the *same*
> > slice. If you configure two different slices, the one on the outer
> > tracks will be faster.
>
> I cannot verify that with my drive, but my largest is 18GB so maybe
> the difference is not a
Dear All,
I just ran into a problem with the linuxulator, triggered by the Linux JDK
that I use for my development.
Markus kindly pointed me to this PR:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24315
The summary is that getcwd(3) under Linux emulation will fail really
hard after a rmdir.
D
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