Re: KVM switch vs. FreeBSD psm driver (Solved!)

2001-01-10 Thread Doug Barton
John Polstra wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Polstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've got a Belkin OmniView Pro 8-Port KVM switch which thinks it's > > much smarter than it really is. When I try to use the mouse through > > it with FreeBSD (-current from around Christma

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Greg Black
"Dan Langille" wrote: > On 11 Jan 2001, at 16:33, Greg Black wrote: > > > We'd need some guarantees that the attempt to maintain current > > behaviour was done correctly -- i.e., without introducing bugs > > that broke things. > > What sort of guarantees are acceptable? It would need to be tes

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Dan Langille
On 11 Jan 2001, at 16:33, Greg Black wrote: > We'd need some guarantees that the attempt to maintain current > behaviour was done correctly -- i.e., without introducing bugs > that broke things. What sort of guarantees are acceptable? > In the beginning, something like CRON_DST_HACK="NO" in rc.

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Greg Black
Gerhard Sittig wrote: > I take notice of your (and Greg Black's) reservation / being > opposed, respect it and conclude that the change will have to > - default to the current behaviour (something quite usual for > expanding changes) We'd need some guarantees that the attempt to maintain curre

Re: Reg: Adaptec AIC-7892 on board SCSI controller ..

2001-01-10 Thread S Chandrasekaran
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 10:21:59PM -0700, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > I bought 3.3 CD's from Walnut Creek and use BSD at home, but that > >has a IDE disk. This is my first attempt at installing one with SCSI. > >Upgrading to 4.x is not an option. > > FreeBSD 3.3 does not include support for t

Re: Reg: Adaptec AIC-7892 on board SCSI controller ..

2001-01-10 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
> I bought 3.3 CD's from Walnut Creek and use BSD at home, but that >has a IDE disk. This is my first attempt at installing one with SCSI. >Upgrading to 4.x is not an option. FreeBSD 3.3 does not include support for the 7892. IIRC 3.4 and all releases after it, supports the 7892. -- Justi

Reg: Adaptec AIC-7892 on board SCSI controller ..

2001-01-10 Thread S Chandrasekaran
Hi All, I don't know if this is the appropriate forum, but nevertheless. I have a HP Kayak XU 800. This machine has a Adaptec AIC-7892 SCSI controller and a quantum hard disk (Atlas 10k). I tried to install FreeBSD 3.3 on this machine, but the hardware probe is unable to probe th

Re: pthread_attr_setschedparam, mozilla, and PTHREAD_MAX_PRIORITY

2001-01-10 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Peter Haight wrote: > I rebuilt mozilla after upgrading to 4.2 and was getting an assertion > because pthread_attr_setschedparam() was failing with a ENOTSUP. It turns > out Mozilla was trying to set the thread priority to 42 which is above the > new limit of 31 which changed

RE: Setting default hostname to localhost

2001-01-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 11-Jan-01 Robert Watson wrote: > not to (which there may be), I'd like to commit changes to -CURRENT's > /etc/default/rc.conf to change the default hostname to "localhost". If > the user configures a hostname, or DHCP provides one, it will be > overridden, of course, so should not impact

pthread_attr_setschedparam, mozilla, and PTHREAD_MAX_PRIORITY

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Haight
I rebuilt mozilla after upgrading to 4.2 and was getting an assertion because pthread_attr_setschedparam() was failing with a ENOTSUP. It turns out Mozilla was trying to set the thread priority to 42 which is above the new limit of 31 which changed a little before 4.2-RELEASE. To patch mozilla I

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Gerhard Sittig
[ note to nbm: would you like getting cc'ed, too? I'm used to keep receiver lists as short as possible, but feel free to state your wishes :) ] On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:20 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > > > Now, consider NTP calibrations, > > . . . > > Your exam

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Gerhard Sittig
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:14 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > > > It's not that I want to talk you into something you don't > > want. > > But that's exactly what you're trying to do. Honestly -- no! :) OK, I've been unclear there. I did reply to your message, but writing

Re: KVM switch vs. FreeBSD psm driver (Solved!)

2001-01-10 Thread Brian Dean
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:20:43PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > John Polstra wrote: > > > > I'm happy to report that this problem is solved now. After one fellow > > wrote to me and reported that his switch of the same model worked OK, > > I hunted around on the Belkin web site. It turns out tha

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Greg Black
Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Wed 2001-01-10 (21:35), Greg Black wrote: > > To summarise: It is broken, we have the fix, No. You believe it is broken; you believe you have a fix. Not everybody agrees that it is broken or that any fix is required. > > Fiddling with cron to work around inco

Re: Setting default hostname to localhost

2001-01-10 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:23:13PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > /etc/default/rc.conf to change the default hostname to "localhost". If > the user configures a hostname, or DHCP provides one, it will be > overridden, of course, so should not impact any configuration but one > where the hostname i

Setting default hostname to localhost

2001-01-10 Thread Robert Watson
Under FreeBSD, the default hostname in /etc/defaults/rc.conf is currently an empty string, "". If the hostname is not later defined, then the system will use this through multi-user mode, which can disrupt application behavior. This can occur if DHCP doesn't provide a hostname, or if the user n

Re: forth/loader question..

2001-01-10 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Chris wrote: > > I am attempting to add some functionality to the loader, but have come > across a minor problem. Is there some way to include forth files, > given a string? > > s" file" included (gforth example) Yes, there is... I just can't recall the exact name right now. :-)

Re: help!

2001-01-10 Thread Richard Krush
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 10:29:03AM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [20010103 03:55], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Hi. I have a netgear Ethernet card installed in my computer. In order > >to reconnect my computer to the internet, I have to reinstall the > >drive

Re: apache PMAP_SHPGPERPROC (fwd)

2001-01-10 Thread Dan Phoenix
Ok i fixed itnfsbufs or something and maxusers i increased solved this problem. On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Daniel Hagan wrote: > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:50:43 -0500 > From: Daniel Hagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Dan Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: apache PMAP_SHP

optmizations/real time conditions

2001-01-10 Thread Jochen Kaiser
Hi ! I am working on some modifications in the netinet code. I therefore want as little intereferences/side affects as possible. I would like real time conditions ... but I think thats just an illusion :) However, I want to minimize the effects done by userland processes, getty,login,cron et cet

Re: apache PMAP_SHPGPERPROC (fwd)

2001-01-10 Thread Dan Phoenix
Ya i checked that out already. netstat -m seems fine. What I am trying to do is move apache off this linux box to a freebsd one to split up the load. I leave mysql on linux box for the SMP. currently I have it moved back to linux box till I can fix this error. Here are some error logs from li

Re: apache PMAP_SHPGPERPROC (fwd)

2001-01-10 Thread Daniel Hagan
Are you running out of mbufs? Try running netstat -m and comparing peak and max mbuf allocations. If you're running out, you'll need to recompile your kernel (I can't remember the option off-hand, but it should be in LINT). Daniel Dan Phoenix wrote: > > I have tried much ..increasing limits i

Re: Link up/down events

2001-01-10 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > On 10/01, Robert Watson wrote: > > | Presumably at some point in the stack, that notification is translated > | from a hardware event, which might be associated with devd in some manner > | (and possibly also exposed there). > > This is the ideal si

apache PMAP_SHPGPERPROC (fwd)

2001-01-10 Thread Dan Phoenix
I have tried much ..increasing limits in the kernel etc real questions is ..how do you increase the socket buffer space? -- example 230 User dphoenix logged in. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> ls ftp: socket: No buffer space availab

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > To summarise: It is broken, According to your definition of broken, which we have not necessarily reached a consensus on. > Not only that, but people who don't understand that it is broken are > unable to understand simple facts.

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Doug Barton
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > Hello again. > > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Doug Barton wrote: > > > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > > > > > On Tue 2001-01-09 (02:14), Doug Barton wrote: > > > > The point I'm trying (obviously in vain) to make is having cron do what > > amounts to "slewing

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Doug Barton
Well, we've obviously hit a hot button issue for you here Neil, for reasons that I don't pretend to understand. Please try to reduce the amount of emotion that's going into your argument It's just a computer thing after all. :) On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On We

Re: what is swapper?

2001-01-10 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 12:10:52PM -0800, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > I am working on a non-technical, generic BSD article about special system > processes. I am trying to figure out some details about swapper (process > 0) -- and I have a few questions. [... lots of questions ...] > Where is this wel

Re: what is swapper?

2001-01-10 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Jeremy C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010110 12:11] wrote: > I am working on a non-technical, generic BSD article about special system > processes. I am trying to figure out some details about swapper (process > 0) -- and I have a few questions. [snip] > > Where is this well documented? "The De

what is swapper?

2001-01-10 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
I am working on a non-technical, generic BSD article about special system processes. I am trying to figure out some details about swapper (process 0) -- and I have a few questions. I understand that the "swapper process swaps in runnable processes that are currently swapped out, if there is room.

RE: Link up/down events

2001-01-10 Thread Matt Simerson
While it can be done (I do it), using MRTG/rateup/Cricket/etc. without SNMP is much like pushing a car down the street. Sometimes it's The Right Thing to do but for the other 99.4% of the time, it's far preferable to use the engine to power it. UCD-SNMP is more than just the UCD SNMP daemon. It'

RE: Link up/down events

2001-01-10 Thread Chuck Rock
Has anyone looked into using SNMP with MRTG or some of the other utilities that comes with UCD-SNMP? I think this would be very easy this way. We use Castle Rock's SNMPc running on NT to montior our servers and connections. UCD-SNMP is a daemon and SNMP utilities for Linux and FreeBSD flavors th

Re: Link up/down events

2001-01-10 Thread Samuel Tardieu
On 10/01, Robert Watson wrote: | Presumably at some point in the stack, that notification is translated | from a hardware event, which might be associated with devd in some manner | (and possibly also exposed there). This is the ideal situation. The other one being that the status can be read, w

Re: Link up/down events

2001-01-10 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 08:57:14AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > > > > > Is there a way to be warned about ethernet link up/down events? I have a > > > laptop with an internal fxp0 interface, and I'd l

Re: Link up/down events

2001-01-10 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 08:57:14AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > > > Is there a way to be warned about ethernet link up/down events? I have a > > laptop with an internal fxp0 interface, and I'd like to launch/kill > > dhclient whenever the link goes up

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Leif Neland
> In summary: I do not see a valid argument for not having the bugfix at > all, available as an option. I do see the argument for not changing the > default. I also see that everyone who opposes seems to believe that it > is only people without major skills that get confused by all this, since

Re: Link up/down events

2001-01-10 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > Is there a way to be warned about ethernet link up/down events? I have a > laptop with an internal fxp0 interface, and I'd like to launch/kill > dhclient whenever the link goes up/down. I've been wondering about this also -- Darwin has this, and it's

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Wed 2001-01-10 (21:35), Greg Black wrote: > > These changes have been tested in OpenBSD for 3 years. > > That's not the same as testing under FreeBSD. Of course not, but it's a reasonably similar population type. > And it's not just a matter of testing anyway -- it's a matter of > changing

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Greg Black
Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Wed 2001-01-10 (21:20), Dan Langille wrote: > > > > IMHO, the solution is not to schedule jobs during during the changeover > > period. However, *if* the mods are adopted, it should default to off. Add > > a switch to turn them on. See how that runs for a few

Re: Size of struct ifreq/returned buffer of SIOCGIFCONF

2001-01-10 Thread Graham Wheeler
Graham Wheeler wrote: > > David Malone wrote: > > > > If you read the paragraph below that code, it notes that the ifreq > > structures are of variable length. The spacing depends on the size > > of the returned info. > > That's true. In which case the cheops code is wrong, as it iterates > thro

Link up/down events

2001-01-10 Thread Samuel Tardieu
Is there a way to be warned about ethernet link up/down events? I have a laptop with an internal fxp0 interface, and I'd like to launch/kill dhclient whenever the link goes up/down. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the mess

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Wed 2001-01-10 (22:35), Dan Langille wrote: > That's a relatively smaller user-base compared to FreeBSD. Do you > consider that sufficient? I would, yes, considering it has been three years. You may feel free to disagree, of course, and I'll get to why next: > I don't see how the above rel

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Dan Langille
On 10 Jan 2001, at 11:24, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > These changes have been tested in OpenBSD for 3 years. That's a relatively smaller user-base compared to FreeBSD. Do you consider that sufficient? > The "solution" > is _not_ to tell people they're stupid to schedule jobs during the > chan

Re: help!

2001-01-10 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20010103 03:55], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Hi. I have a netgear Ethernet card installed in my computer. In order >to reconnect my computer to the internet, I have to reinstall the >drivers and they're missing. So, I opened up my computer to look at the >Ethernet card and I

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Wed 2001-01-10 (21:20), Dan Langille wrote: > > > And when you finally realize that everyone else thinks this is a great > > > idea, > > I do not like being included in "everyone". I don't think it's a great idea. If you didn't miss the comment, I was (and am now) attempting to emulate Doug

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

2001-01-10 Thread Dan Langille
On 9 Jan 2001, at 10:20, Doug Barton wrote: > > And when you finally realize that everyone else thinks this is a great > > idea, I do not like being included in "everyone". I don't think it's a great idea. > > In fact, I'm quite sure that this is not true. I happen to be the only one >