Re: traceroute using tcp to a port?

2000-09-20 Thread Borja Marcos
> > If I understand correctly, traceroute works by sending pings with ttl=1, > ttl=2,ttl=3 etc and records the names of the routers where the ttl reaches > zero. No, traceroute send UDP messages by default. Doing a traceroute with TCP (it has an option, -P tcp) can be really use

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Paul Saab
Mike Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I think this is correct, actually. Danny, can you confirm that you're > using one of the class A address spaces (eg. 10.*.*.*?) > > Actually, IMO the code around this is entirely wrong; we should always > respect the mask supplied by the server, and on

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Danny Braniss
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>you write: }> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>you write: }> } }> }I think this is correct, actually. Danny, can you confirm that you're }> }using one of the class A address spaces (eg. 10.*.*.*?) }> } }> my net is class B. 132.65.0.0 } }Gotcha. What's your netmask? I

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Danny Braniss
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>you write: } }I think this is correct, actually. Danny, can you confirm that you're }using one of the class A address spaces (eg. 10.*.*.*?) } my net is class B. 132.65.0.0 }Actually, IMO the code around this is entirely wrong; we should always }respect the mask su

Re: cannot install freebsd over a 15 GB IDE Disk

2000-09-20 Thread Pascal Bouchareine
I had the problem a *long* time ago while 'newfs'ing very large drives without partitions and with blocks that where too small. Can't remember exactly if this was vinum-specific or went from somewhere else. can't either remember the disk and block size i used.. But i think some signed int limit

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Aleksandr A.Babaylov
Sergey Babkin writes: > "Aleksandr A.Babaylov" wrote: > > David Scheidt writes: . > > > SCSI just works, on everything I've ever used it.I've had a > > > occaisonal problems with things like termination. High quality > > > cables and enclosures solve this. I wouldn't let an IDE disk

Minor aio cleanup

2000-09-20 Thread John Baldwin
At http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/aio.patch there is a simple patch that teaches aio daemons to use kthread_create() and kthread_exit() and thus be slightly cleaner. However, I'm not familiar with using aio, so I'd appreciate it if people who _do_ use aio would test this and make sure it wor

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Sergey Babkin wrote: :Plus different manufacturers have different reliability - :if you use Seagate SCSI disks and someone else's IDE then you most :certainly will see a lot more SCSI disk failures. : :-SB, Seagate Hater : I've had almost a thousand Seagates in service for a

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Mike
I've used various Seagate SCSI drives exclusively in all of my boxes and only had one failure, which I was still able to recover all the data from before replacing it. The first box I built back in '97 had an UW Seagate in it that I bought used, and it was very heavily used for 2 years, and I

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Sergey Babkin
"Aleksandr A.Babaylov" wrote: > > David Scheidt writes: > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote: > > :I work since 1991 with computer hardware and know exact > > :that SCSI drives is about ten times less reliability than > > :IDE. Yes, I understand that SCSI was more ... extremal may

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Rick Hamell
> Cabling... most of troubles caused by cables for me - it is > reason I do not believe external devices. > Most of IDE breaks was long ago - last about 3 or 4 years ago. > SCSI drives breaks are quite regular - 1 or 2 in at least 5 > last years. > this is for about 50 SCSI drives near me and abo

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Aleksandr A.Babaylov
David Scheidt writes: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote: > :I work since 1991 with computer hardware and know exact > :that SCSI drives is about ten times less reliability than > :IDE. Yes, I understand that SCSI was more ... extremal may be. > :I am wery glad that now mostly no ne

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote: :I work since 1991 with computer hardware and know exact :that SCSI drives is about ten times less reliability than :IDE. Yes, I understand that SCSI was more ... extremal may be. :I am wery glad that now mostly no need in SCSI drives at all. :Just

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc Tardif writes: : What would be the incentives to using vinum instead of simply : concatenating drives in a RAID-1 array (or whatever) using ccd(4)? RAID-5 now seems to be supported, which lets you take the loss of a single disk more easily. Warner To Unsubs

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Edward Elhauge writes: : to autorecover on bad sectors, but every system that I've had to recover : seems to be in a state where the bad sectors aren't remapping. I've tried I've often wanted to write a bad block remapper. While SCSI is supposed to do this automati

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Aleksandr A.Babaylov
Edward Elhauge writes: > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. > > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how > to work reliably with them. > > I have installed UPS boxes on each machin

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:48:06PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 13:43] wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:24:34PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote: > > > OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on > > > your root partition. B

mirroring / (was Re: Frustration with SCSI system)

2000-09-20 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> "Edward" == Edward Elhauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Edward> OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't Edward> use vinum on your root partition. By Murphy's Law it Edward> always seems to be root that gets screwed up. And that Edward> also causes the bigges

Re: Executable packages (long, sorry)

2000-09-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Koster, K.J. wrote: > Riding on the wave of the unified BSD packages effort, this might be a good > time to rekindle that idea. Say that we agree on some form of uniform > package layout. You'd say that man pages go into $PKG_BASE/$PKG_NAME/man, > and that libraries go into $

Re: cannot install freebsd over a 15 GB IDE Disk

2000-09-20 Thread Aleksandr A.Babaylov
Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios writes: > i amgetting crazy since i cannot install my freebsd over a 15GB ide > disk! > I am sure i have seen messages in the questions mailing list about that, > but i could not find than from search web interface. > > Since, i would be glad if you could help

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Matthew Jacob
Keep your disk cool. If you're getting MEDIUM errors, you're disks are getting toasted. I'm also in SF, and I plain mostly have been shut down the last two days. > Hello Freebsders, > > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of

Re: cannot install freebsd over a 15 GB IDE Disk

2000-09-20 Thread Matthew Jacob
I dunno. I installed 4.0 fine on a 30 GB IDE. > Dear gentleman, > > i amgetting crazy since i cannot install my freebsd over a 15GB ide > disk! > I am sure i have seen messages in the questions mailing list about that, > but i could not find than from search web interface. > > Since, i would

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Nick Rogness
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Edward Elhauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 12:48] wrote: > > Hello Freebsders, > > > > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from > > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. > > > > I've had about six disk crashes

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 13:43] wrote: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:24:34PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote: > > OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on > > your root partition. By Murphy's Law it always seems to be root that gets > > screwed up. And th

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:24:34PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote: > OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on > your root partition. By Murphy's Law it always seems to be root that gets > screwed up. And that also causes the biggest problems because then you > have to ya

Re: mergemaster RFC (long)

2000-09-20 Thread Brian Somers
> Brian Somers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > First, the things I am definitely going to do. Christian "naddy" > > > Weisgerber has taken on the task of porting mm to openbsd. > > > > I think it would be nice to aim to keep the two scripts exactly the > > same, using `uname` when it's rea

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Marc Tardif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 13:06] wrote: > > > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from > > > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. > > > > > > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how > > > to work reliably with

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Fred Clift
If you're willing to go through strange install contortions, you can boot off of an MFS (Or MD, depending on what version you use ) root filesystem (copies stored in separate partition, on both disks you are mirroring) and then have everything else mirrored. Then at least your running system does

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Marc Tardif wrote: :> > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from :> > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. :> > :> > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how :> > to work reliably with them. :> :> "man v

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 04:09:13PM -0400, Marc Tardif wrote: > > > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from > > > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. > > > > > > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how > > > to work reliably

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Edward Elhauge
OK, vinum is good. But my understanding is that you can't use vinum on your root partition. By Murphy's Law it always seems to be root that gets screwed up. And that also causes the biggest problems because then you have to yank the system apart and find another host disk for booting. Well spoken

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Rick Hamell
> I have installed UPS boxes on each machine and that seems to have lowered > the incidence of failure, but failures still happen; yesterday during our > heat wave in the San Francisco area (possible brownouts also) I had > another. Lots of fans in the cases... I had a fan go out in one

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Marc Tardif
> > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from > > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. > > > > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how > > to work reliably with them. > > "man vinum" > > software mirroring == good. > What w

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:58:27PM -0700, Edward Elhauge wrote: > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. > > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how > to work reliably with them. > >

Re: Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Edward Elhauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 12:48] wrote: > Hello Freebsders, > > I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from > NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. > > I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how > to work reliabl

Frustration with SCSI system

2000-09-20 Thread Edward Elhauge
Hello Freebsders, I've been using FreeBSD over the last 6 years (since I switched from NetBSD) to run a small ISP out of my basement. I've had about six disk crashes in as many years and still don't know how to work reliably with them. I have installed UPS boxes on each machine and that seems t

cannot install freebsd over a 15 GB IDE Disk

2000-09-20 Thread Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios
Dear gentleman, i amgetting crazy since i cannot install my freebsd over a 15GB ide disk! I am sure i have seen messages in the questions mailing list about that, but i could not find than from search web interface. Since, i would be glad if you could help getting this error out off. Thanks a l

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Paul Saab
Danny Braniss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > i still think that this part of code is useless. why overwride the > info supplied by dhcp? if it's wrong then the dhcpd.conf should be > fixed or some message printed. at the moment, bootp silently ignores > some info it conciders wrong - wrongly :-) T

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Danny Braniss
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>you write: }Matt Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: }> A quick review of the code seems to indicate that this is indeed a bug. }> As far as I can tell, the IN_CLASS*() macros assume host order. e.g. }> from /usr/include/netinet/in.h: }> }> #define IN_

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Paul Saab
Matt Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > A quick review of the code seems to indicate that this is indeed a bug. > As far as I can tell, the IN_CLASS*() macros assume host order. e.g. > from /usr/include/netinet/in.h: > > #define IN_CLASSA(i)(((u_int32_t)(i) & 0x8

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Matt Dillon
A quick review of the code seems to indicate that this is indeed a bug. As far as I can tell, the IN_CLASS*() macros assume host order. e.g. from /usr/include/netinet/in.h: #define IN_CLASSA(i)(((u_int32_t)(i) & 0x8000) == 0) Since s_addr is in network byte o

Executable packages (long, sorry)

2000-09-20 Thread Koster, K.J.
Dear All, While we're on the subject of packaging formats, I would like to present an idea that has been running around in the back of my head. Years ago I had the pleasure of playing with a new RiscPC by Acorn. If you create a directory on RiscOS and stick a little BASIC script in with exactly

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Paul Saab
Umm.. I'm using the netboot just fine here for the ports cluster and it is using the code in the tree w/ zero modifications. It boots via nfs and comes up with ip, netmask, and gateway. paul Danny Braniss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > bug report: > in lib/libstand/bootp.c: > > if (

Re: Serial port locks up 4.1

2000-09-20 Thread Dennis
At 04:41 PM 09/19/2000 -0700, you wrote: >> >> FYI: It seems that if you try to access the serial port on a MB with the >> port disabled, freebsd 4.1 will freeze up solid. Enabling the serial >> console will cause a lock up on boot, and any access to the port will do it >> as well. > >This is pro

Re: device naming convention

2000-09-20 Thread Bruce Evans
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Marc Tardif wrote: > > 0cicuta/home/babolo(9)#dd of=/dev/wd0s2 if=/dev/zero bs=660b > > 1cicuta/home/babolo(11)#od -b /dev/wd0s2 > [ snip ] > > Why I use 2.2.7 for test? > > Because of my lovely 4.1-STABLE is extremly unstable with content of > > ad0s2 (wd0s2) above and silen

snd0 gdk/gtk errors

2000-09-20 Thread Matt Bettinger
> Posted this to freebsd questions without much of a response so going to give > it a shot here in hackers.. > getting some errors here have pcm compiled in my kernel and did a make > /dev/snd0 as root. > still no sound. snd0 does not even come up in dmesg. > also, when i shut down X (using

sound and gdk errors

2000-09-20 Thread Matt Bettinger
Posted this to freebsd questions without much of a response so going to give it a shot here in hackers.. getting some errors here have pcm compiled in my kernel and did a make /dev/snd0 as root. still no sound. snd0 does not even come up in dmesg. also, when i shut down X (using enlightenmen

Re: Running natd on more than one interface...

2000-09-20 Thread Jim Flowers
Yes. Just use a separate process for each with different ports for the divert. This is useful inbound when you want the source of an external connection to have a local address. Jim Flowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> #4 ranked ISP on C|NET #1 in Ohio On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Stephen Hocking wrote: > >

Re: diskless workstation

2000-09-20 Thread Danny Braniss
bug report: in lib/libstand/bootp.c: if (IN_CLASSA(myip.s_addr)) nmask = htonl(IN_CLASSA_NET); else if (IN_CLASSB(myip.s_addr)) nmask = htonl(IN_CLASSB_NET); else nmask = htonl(IN_CLASSC_NET); should be: if (

Re: PnP & 4.1 Release

2000-09-20 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Piotr Sroczynski wrote: > I know about it but 'ed' in 4.1R doesn't support SMC 8416 in any mode > set (PnP /not PnP, PIO/shared mem.), because it aways treat 'ed' as > PnP device and reprogram it on his own. With SMC 8216 (no PnP dev.) I > haven't any problem. You're configur

Re: PnP & 4.1 Release

2000-09-20 Thread Piotr Sroczynski
> > First has SMC EliteULTRA 8416 software selectable PnP operation > > - ethernet > > The 'ed' driver doesn't support SMC cards in PnP mode. (Or rather it > doesn't support SMC cards in non shared memory mode which is what they run > in when configured via PnP.) I know about it but 'ed' in 4.1