Mike Smith wrote:
> >
> > The issue is with really small ram embedded systems.
> > Making things CAPABLE of being small is different from making
> > them dynamicly loadable.
>
> Nobody in their right mind is going to produce a "really small ram"
> embedded system that features the sort of nondete
Dennis wrote:
>
> At 10:48 PM 6/7/00 -0700, W Gerald Hicks wrote:
> >Peter Wemm wrote:
> >
> >> I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not
> >> working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them
> >> permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de
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>
> > > I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not
> > > working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them
> > > permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact same problem on
> > > all of the systems above
I personally, don't see the reason for having this sort of thing in embedded
devices, either, a lot of which have just exactly what they need to operate in
the kernel, leaving nothing to be loaded or unloaded. As far as the kerneld
stuff goes, the kernel obviously provides us with an interface wit
I have heard of a few problems with the k7m... but I don't have any firsthand
experience with them. FIC on the other hand has made some pretty good
motherboards, and are probably the last company that needs to be bashed as far
as quality goes. ASUS and FIC are probably the two best mobo companies,
>> Much more distressing: if I switch out of X to a text mode console with
>> Ctrl-Alt-Fn, and then switch back to X, the machine freezes up
>> completely and has to be power-cycled. It does first switch back into
>> graphics mode, and I can see the top part of the screen is messed up, so
>> it ha
> At 10:48 PM 6/7/00 -0700, W Gerald Hicks wrote:
> >Peter Wemm wrote:
> >
> >> I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not
> >> working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them
> >> permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact sa
hi, there!
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote:
> > > |can someone take a look at this?
> > > |seems that it's a flaw in 4.x pthreads implementation
> > > |under RELENG_3 everything works fine, haven't tried this on -current
> > > |i'm totally lost at this point
> > >
> > > Multithreaded C+
>I am running 4.0-S on a Compaq Presario laptop with a Trident Cyberblade
>VGA. I couldn't get this to work in anything other than 640x480 with
>XFree86-3.3.6, so I moved to XFree86-4.0 (and no, I'm not interested in
>mail from people who say that the Trident Cyberblade works for them in
>3.3.6; b
> Mike Nowlin wrote:
> >
>
> > Not to mention "how much memory do you really gain by unloading modules"?
> > Considering the price of RAM these days (although not as low as
> > it was, but I won't be spending $650 US for 16M any time soon
> > again), the few K that unloading a bunch of modules
> All,
>
> I'm working on the emulator for OSF1/Mach for FreeBSD/Alpha, and I need
> some help understanding how to do some things in the FreeBSD kernel--if anyone
> can answer any of the following questions, it would be greatly appreciated:
>
> 1) How do you create a process in the kernel
Wes Peters wrote:
>
> Mike Smith wrote:
> >
> > Actually, there's still a *lot* of work that has to be done to make this
> > work "right" - let me say two things only:
> >
> > "resource allocation"
> >
> > "interrupt routing"
>
> And that's just the start. When it comes to network interfaces, t
On Thursday, 8 June 2000 at 21:00:22 -0400, Luke wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wes Peters wrote:
>> Wilko Bulte wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
>>> $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
>>> FreeBSD. And obviously
All,
I'm working on the emulator for OSF1/Mach for FreeBSD/Alpha, and I need
some help understanding how to do some things in the FreeBSD kernel--if anyone
can answer any of the following questions, it would be greatly appreciated:
1) How do you create a process in the kernel (i.e., you
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wes Peters wrote:
> Wilko Bulte wrote:
> >
> > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
> > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
> > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
>
> ASUS K7
On Thursday, 8 June 2000 at 17:33:13 -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
> Wilko Bulte wrote:
>>
>> I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
>> $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
>> FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep awa
With all the talk about adding support for hot plugging items into the system. Would
it make sense to utilize
Apple's work with IOKit in FreeBSD ? I know that this could be a BIG project- but why
reproduce what apple is
giving away ? It looks to be a really nice driver architecture. Would the AP
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:05:25PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote:
> Is there any recommendations on how an OS should
> supply an SVR4 libc to an SVR4 application when the OS itself may not
> be SVR4-compliant?
That's what /compat/svr4 is for :-)
> Sounds like trying to emulate "SVR4" in itself i
On 08-Jun-00 Soren Schmidt wrote:
> It seems Nicole Harrington. wrote:
>>
>> On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote:
>> > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
>> > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
>> > FreeBSD. And obviously which mo
Mike Smith wrote:
>
> Actually, there's still a *lot* of work that has to be done to make this
> work "right" - let me say two things only:
>
> "resource allocation"
>
> "interrupt routing"
And that's just the start. When it comes to network interfaces, trying
to unthread them from the system
Wilko Bulte wrote:
>
> I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
> $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
> FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
EPoX == trash. Avoid like the plague.
ASUS K7v == good.
Dave Preece wrote:
>
> > > Just learning about this: I can see the advantages but does
> > anything use it?
> >
> > Sure, TCP uses it.
> >
> > TCP (at least in FreeBSD) sets the "don't frag" bit on all
> > its outgoing
> > packets.
>
> Good lord, so it does. Mental note, packet sniff before post
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It might be interesting to trace through libgcc_r.
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hi, there!
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Max Khon wrote:
> > Multithreaded C++ exceptions have been broken since about August '99.
> > Use the macros if you need exceptions with ACE/TAO.
>
> That's not a solution for me -- I want to port some app that uses ACE +
> TAO and does not use ACE exceptions macr
It seems Max Khon wrote:
> hi, there!
>
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Russell L. Carter wrote:
>
> > |can someone take a look at this?
> > |seems that it's a flaw in 4.x pthreads implementation
> > |under RELENG_3 everything works fine, haven't tried this on -current
> > |i'm totally lost at this point
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It seems Nicole Harrington. wrote:
>
> On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
> > $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
> > FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
> >
hi, there!
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> |can someone take a look at this?
> |seems that it's a flaw in 4.x pthreads implementation
> |under RELENG_3 everything works fine, haven't tried this on -current
> |i'm totally lost at this point
>
> Multithreaded C++ exceptions have be
> > I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not
> > working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them
> > permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact same problem on
> > all of the systems above.
...
> Store and forward mode intro
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 11:57:25AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote:
>
> fl == Florins?
Yep!
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On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote:
> I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
> $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
> FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
>
> Thks
> Wilko
I have good experiences so fa
I have several programs that use rlist.h (for various reasons ) and I
cannot find it in FreeBSD 4.0 ! (mainly for swap info )
Has it been droped ? I know that the kernel/sys/rlist.h has been droped
but does affect the /usr/include/sys/rlist.h ?
If it has been dropped what do I use instead ???
t
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|can someone take a look at this?
|seems that it's a flaw in 4.x pthreads implementation
|under RELENG_3 everything works fine, haven't tried this on -current
|i'm totally lost at this point
Multithreaded C++ exceptions have been broken since about August '99.
Use the macros if you
hi, there!
can someone take a look at this?
seems that it's a flaw in 4.x pthreads implementation
under RELENG_3 everything works fine, haven't tried this on -current
i'm totally lost at this point
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hmm. So does this mean that SVR4-compliant programs must be
> dynamically-linked?
Yes. The specification says that statically-linked programs are not
compliant.
> Is there any recommendations on how an OS should supply
In the last episode (Jun 08), John Polstra said:
> > But isn't there some SVR4 ABI standard that says "you must implement
> > these syscalls and these ioctls this way", etc? I'm sure the ABI
> > explicitly says what lseek() takes for arguments, for example.
>
> The SVR4 ABI specification doesn't
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan Nelson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But isn't there some SVR4 ABI standard that says "you must implement
> these syscalls and these ioctls this way", etc? I'm sure the ABI
> explicitly says what lseek() takes for arguments, for example.
The SVR4 ABI specifica
> > > Just learning about this: I can see the advantages but does
> > anything use it?
> >
> > Sure, TCP uses it.
> >
> So... thinking about what this means for firewalls and natd. If we block all
> incoming ICMP's across the firewall
The moral of the story is don't block *ALL* incoming ICMP's
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Johan Kruger wrote:
> I started syslogd on Amnesiac with : syslogd -d and i get
>
> Logging to CONSOLE /dev/console
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 X WALL:
> 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 X FILE: /var/log/crit
> 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
At 10:48 PM 6/7/00 -0700, W Gerald Hicks wrote:
>Peter Wemm wrote:
>
>> I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not
>> working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them
>> permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact same problem o
James Housley wrote:
>
> Graham Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > James Housley wrote:
> > >
> > > Graham Wheeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Much more distressing: if I switch out of X to a text mode console with
> > > > Ctrl-Alt-Fn, and then switch back to X, the machine freezes up
> > > > completely and has t
And fbsd will respond to other's queries depending on interface mtus only
be careful if you are running natd. This copies the interface mtu on
startup but does not learn the new value if it is reduced either manually
or automatically. It can therefore respond with a to a query with a
value
James Housley wrote:
>
> Graham Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > Much more distressing: if I switch out of X to a text mode console with
> > Ctrl-Alt-Fn, and then switch back to X, the machine freezes up
> > completely and has to be power-cycled. It does first switch back into
> > graphics mode, and I can
> > sorry if i lost part of the discussion, but why dont you
> > just associate a quota with a rule and specify one of the
> > two possible results when exceeding quota:
> >
> >ipfw match-upto 20MB
> >ipfw deny-above 20MB
...
> Well, it may or may not be able to cover a situation I'
Graham Wheeler wrote:
>
>
> Much more distressing: if I switch out of X to a text mode console with
> Ctrl-Alt-Fn, and then switch back to X, the machine freezes up
> completely and has to be power-cycled. It does first switch back into
> graphics mode, and I can see the top part of the screen i
Hi all
I am running 4.0-S on a Compaq Presario laptop with a Trident Cyberblade
VGA. I couldn't get this to work in anything other than 640x480 with
XFree86-3.3.6, so I moved to XFree86-4.0 (and no, I'm not interested in
mail from people who say that the Trident Cyberblade works for them in
3.3.6
On Thu 2000-06-08 (11:43), Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> sorry if i lost part of the discussion, but why dont you
> just associate a quota with a rule and specify one of the
> two possible results when exceeding quota:
>
>ipfw match-upto 20MB
>ipfw deny-above 20MB
>
> where the first syntax
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> sorry if i lost part of the discussion, but why dont you
> just associate a quota with a rule and specify one of the
> two possible results when exceeding quota:
>ipfw match-upto 20MB
>ipfw deny-above 20MB
> where the first syntax does not
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 07:21:57PM +1200, Dave Preece wrote:
> So... thinking about what this means for firewalls and natd. If we block all
> incoming ICMP's across the firewall, it is quite possible that a server
> behind the firewall could completely fail to send packets to a client on a
>
sorry if i lost part of the discussion, but why dont you
just associate a quota with a rule and specify one of the
two possible results when exceeding quota:
ipfw match-upto 20MB
ipfw deny-above 20MB
where the first syntax does not match when the rule's counters
are above the quota,
On Wed 2000-06-07 (19:18), Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> It should be possible to say say
>
>ipfw deny all ip from any to any exquota any
>
> as well as:
>
>ipfw deny all ip from any to any exquota guest
How about:
ipfw quota 1 config quota 10MB (and similar conversions
I have 2 machine's : A = Amnesiac B = ockle
I want to remote log to ockle from Amnesiac
Amnesiac : /etc/syslog.conf
*.emerg *
*.crit /var/log/crit
*.err
This problem still affects the FreeBSD kernel in 4.0 and 5.0.
A patch file for 4.0-STABLE follows, I've tested this on 4.0-RELEASE and
4.0-STABLE (incl. SMP for what it's worth).
There is no difference between route.c at HEAD(5.0-current) and
RELENG_4(4.0-stable) so this patch should work effec
Hi
I have a system running a stable snap of 3.4 of round about May 31,
I have a program that does quite a bit of logging, and sometime the
following occurs:
The process would just stop (seems to block) - a bt in gdb showed
that it was stuck in open after the following sequence of calls
syslog
Mike Nowlin wrote:
>
> Not to mention "how much memory do you really gain by unloading modules"?
> Considering the price of RAM these days (although not as low as
> it was, but I won't be spending $650 US for 16M any time soon
> again), the few K that unloading a bunch of modules saves won't
> I personally consider leaving the kernel module loadable intact after
> boot to be a huge, huge security hole. Loadable modules... fine, but
> once the machine goes multi-user I want to up the securelevel and
> that disables any further kld operations. If one of the biggest
>
> > Just learning about this: I can see the advantages but does
> anything use it?
>
> Sure, TCP uses it.
>
> TCP (at least in FreeBSD) sets the "don't frag" bit on all
> its outgoing
> packets.
Good lord, so it does. Mental note, packet sniff before posting in future.
So... thinking about
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