--On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor
wrote:
>
> On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
>> VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
>> versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
>> better. (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:00:46PM -0700, Ben Jackson wrote:
> I just did that upgrade (been with freebsd since 1.1!) and everything
> seems pretty smooth. I did a 2.2->3.1 upgrade on another machine so
> I'm probably glossing over some aout issues (mainly that you have to
> find them and move th
> From ja...@puck.nether.net Thu Sep 9 18:10:06 1999
> I am creating about 100 icmp sockets, and as they are
> created, allocate a very large SO_RCVBUF:
> (void)setsockopt(localstruct->icmp_s, SOL_SOCKET,
> SO_RCVBUF, (char *)&hold, sizeof(hold));
This can be a part
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
>
> > > It is other way around. I don't want half of FreeBSD binaries linked
> > > with libc.so.3 and half is linked with libc.so.4.
> >
> > Recompile. You have the sources.
>
> ??? What recompile? Why do you think I have the sources - there is
> quite a few binary-only Fr
> There is a short but sweet[1] article on ZDNet today regarding FreeBSD:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2324624,00.html
Hmm, can't find that sweet thing -- typo?
Dirk
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I would start by using a java gui tool to design the look and feel
of the xmailer and allow the application to load java classes
or lets call them plug-ins. There is lots of stuff available
for java including good design patterns and methodologies.
Once the overall design is completed then tra
--On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
>> VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
>> versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
>> better. (I'm stil
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 9 18:10:06 1999
> I am creating about 100 icmp sockets, and as they are
> created, allocate a very large SO_RCVBUF:
> (void)setsockopt(localstruct->icmp_s, SOL_SOCKET,
> SO_RCVBUF, (char *)&hold, sizeof(hold));
This can be a part of
> The box is just going to be running NATD and IPFW, maybe DHCLIENT.
>
> Mr. NT is been told he can try and break-in, crash what ever this box
> from the internet side.
>
> I am asking for links, pointer to make sure this is configured as
> secure/solid as possible. I will be installing 3.3-STAB
I just did that upgrade (been with freebsd since 1.1!) and everything
seems pretty smooth. I did a 2.2->3.1 upgrade on another machine so
I'm probably glossing over some aout issues (mainly that you have to
find them and move them into a separate directory).
One thing that confused me for several
> The box is just going to be running NATD and IPFW, maybe DHCLIENT.
>
> Mr. NT is been told he can try and break-in, crash what ever this box
> from the internet side.
>
> I am asking for links, pointer to make sure this is configured as
> secure/solid as possible. I will be installing 3.3-STA
I just did that upgrade (been with freebsd since 1.1!) and everything
seems pretty smooth. I did a 2.2->3.1 upgrade on another machine so
I'm probably glossing over some aout issues (mainly that you have to
find them and move them into a separate directory).
One thing that confused me for severa
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>
> On 10-Sep-99 Florent Parent wrote:
> > I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
> > under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
> > folders (shared DOS partition). So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed
Hello:
One suggestion I have is webmin. Look at www.webmin.com.
>and i have to write an assignment about freebsd gui tools that help sysadmins
>do their work
Darren Wiebe
dkwi...@hagenhomes.com
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> I have about 5 years experance with FreeBSD. I am running it at home
> connected to a cable modem. My server is fairly secure from the
> outside. I periodically read and act upon the builins from CERT, etc.
>
> The box is just going to be running NATD and IPFW, maybe DHCLIENT.
Some suggestio
On 10-Sep-99 Florent Parent wrote:
> I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
> under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
> folders (shared DOS partition). So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed me to
> do that. Even Netscape FreeBSD/NT use differe
Nate Williams writes:
> > > VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
> > > versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
> > > better. (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
> >
> > Does it do IMAP?
>
> It doesn't even
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>
> On 10-Sep-99 Florent Parent wrote:
> > I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
> > under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
> > folders (shared DOS partition). So far, only VM/Xemacs allowe
I have been presented with a challenge. For a local school we have
"won" putting in FreeBSD as firewall between the cable modem and the
rest of the school network. Our opponent is last years IT commitee
chair, who was booted because he was a jerk and wouldn't do things they
was the school wanted.
Andrew Reilly wrote:
> I have an ATX system that must be looking for a keyboard-located
> power switch of some sort. It won't power up unless I unplug the
> (PS-2) keyboard, and then plug it back in again. That seems as
> though there's something fairly complicated in the system that _is_
> being
Hello:
One suggestion I have is webmin. Look at www.webmin.com.
>and i have to write an assignment about freebsd gui tools that help sysadmins
>do their work
Darren Wiebe
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> I have about 5 years experance with FreeBSD. I am running it at home
> connected to a cable modem. My server is fairly secure from the
> outside. I periodically read and act upon the builins from CERT, etc.
>
> The box is just going to be running NATD and IPFW, maybe DHCLIENT.
Some suggesti
On 10-Sep-99 Florent Parent wrote:
> I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
> under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
> folders (shared DOS partition). So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed me to
> do that. Even Netscape FreeBSD/NT use differ
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote:
> I use freebsd about +- 12 months ago. I have never did any thing serious
> at kernel level, nor i know anything about kernel desgin.
>
> Suppose, i would like to spend time and patience learnig Fbsd internals.
> If, later, i were able to code somet
Nate Williams writes:
> > > VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
> > > versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
> > > better. (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
> >
> > Does it do IMAP?
>
> It doesn't even
On 10-Sep-99 David Scheidt wrote:
> > fetch mail from INBOX).
> Netscape does, actually. I set up a friend's computer to do this, over an
> ssh-forwarded local port, even. It all more less "Just worked". On a win98
> box, even. shudder.
Yeah, I forgot to mention Netscape.. OK no mailer wit
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>
> Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly
> (xfmail)
> all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just
> fetch mail from INBOX).
Netscape does, actually. I set up a friend's computer to
I use freebsd about +- 12 months ago. I have never did any thing serious
at kernel level, nor i know anything about kernel desgin.
Suppose, i would like to spend time and patience learnig Fbsd internals.
If, later, i were able to code something to freebsd, and suppose i do,
what (or better, how) s
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Donna Kean wrote:
> hi my names donna kean and i'm a 3rd year is student at the australian
> defence force academy. i'm enrolled in a systems administration
> course and i have to write an assignment about freebsd gui tools that
> help sysadmins do their work such as create
Mike Smith wrote:
>
> Please word-wrap your messages, as reading them unwrapped is a major
> nuisance.
>
Sorry, I had turned it off for a specific message and forgot.
>
> You should do this soon.
>
I know. But I was barely able to create it the first time.
> Because nobody is testing using a
I have been presented with a challenge. For a local school we have
"won" putting in FreeBSD as firewall between the cable modem and the
rest of the school network. Our opponent is last years IT commitee
chair, who was booted because he was a jerk and wouldn't do things they
was the school wanted
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> I'm more tempted to revert to the major/minor versioning. Every change
> triggers a minor version bump, but only if the library is still backwards
> compatible with minor version 0 and the same major version. Otherwise a
> major
Andrew Reilly wrote:
> I have an ATX system that must be looking for a keyboard-located
> power switch of some sort. It won't power up unless I unplug the
> (PS-2) keyboard, and then plug it back in again. That seems as
> though there's something fairly complicated in the system that _is_
> bein
On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
> VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
> versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
> better. (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, Nate Williams wrote:
> > I'm more tempted to revert to the major/minor versioning.
>
> ELF has no minor revision number (IMO a mistake, but it's not my call).
I agree that it is a mistake.
However, if you think of "major" changes as different libraries, it does make
sense. W
On 10-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
> > Does it do IMAP?
> It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get my email,
> which works *MUCH* better than anything else I've found.
Woe is me.
Oh well.. back to xfmail :)
---
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software
> > VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
> > versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
> > better. (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
>
> Does it do IMAP?
It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get m
Zhihui Zhang writes:
> Your response suggests that I can not achieve the same result simply by
> using (I am using gdb 4.18):
>
> (gdb)set follow-fork-mode child
As far as I can tell, `set follow-fork-mode' only works on HP-UX.
/assar
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Please word-wrap your messages, as reading them unwrapped is a major
nuisance.
> On my dual processor I am running old boot blocks and an AOUT kernel.
> I need the AOUT because I have a lkm device the talks out the parallel
> port to "Background Debug Module" for a Motorola 68332. I haven't bee
On 09-Sep-99 Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power
> outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front
> panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two
> options:
There are no jumpers on the mobo to he
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote:
>
> How is it that BIOS settings can affect this? Do they fiddle
> with some battery-backed switch on the motherboard?
The ATX power supply has a lead or two that are always powered. This allows
the machine do softpower on. It also means that the bios
On my dual processor I am running old boot blocks and an AOUT kernel. I need
the AOUT because I have a lkm device the talks out the parallel port to
"Background Debug Module" for a Motorola 68332. I haven't been able to convert
it over yet.
My code is up to date with cvs-cur.5648.gz (Sept. 9
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote:
> I use freebsd about +- 12 months ago. I have never did any thing serious
> at kernel level, nor i know anything about kernel desgin.
>
> Suppose, i would like to spend time and patience learnig Fbsd internals.
> If, later, i were able to code some
Can someone who understands make(1)
check out bin/13039
specifically the fix would be nice in 3.3 if we can get it
(the fix is in the PR)
julian
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On 10-Sep-99 David Scheidt wrote:
> > fetch mail from INBOX).
> Netscape does, actually. I set up a friend's computer to do this, over an
> ssh-forwarded local port, even. It all more less "Just worked". On a win98
> box, even. shudder.
Yeah, I forgot to mention Netscape.. OK no mailer wi
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>
> Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly (xfmail)
> all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just
> fetch mail from INBOX).
Netscape does, actually. I set up a friend's computer to do
I use freebsd about +- 12 months ago. I have never did any thing serious
at kernel level, nor i know anything about kernel desgin.
Suppose, i would like to spend time and patience learnig Fbsd internals.
If, later, i were able to code something to freebsd, and suppose i do,
what (or better, how)
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Donna Kean wrote:
> hi my names donna kean and i'm a 3rd year is student at the australian
> defence force academy. i'm enrolled in a systems administration
> course and i have to write an assignment about freebsd gui tools that
> help sysadmins do their work such as creat
Mike Smith wrote:
>
> Please word-wrap your messages, as reading them unwrapped is a major
> nuisance.
>
Sorry, I had turned it off for a specific message and forgot.
>
> You should do this soon.
>
I know. But I was barely able to create it the first time.
> Because nobody is testing using
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> I'm more tempted to revert to the major/minor versioning. Every change
> triggers a minor version bump, but only if the library is still backwards
> compatible with minor version 0 and the same major version. Otherwise a
> majo
On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
> VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
> versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
> better. (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, Nate Williams wrote:
> > I'm more tempted to revert to the major/minor versioning.
>
> ELF has no minor revision number (IMO a mistake, but it's not my call).
I agree that it is a mistake.
However, if you think of "major" changes as different libraries, it does make
sense.
On 10-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
> > Does it do IMAP?
> It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get my email,
> which works *MUCH* better than anything else I've found.
Woe is me.
Oh well.. back to xfmail :)
---
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Softwar
> > VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
> > versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
> > better. (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
>
> Does it do IMAP?
It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get
Zhihui Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Your response suggests that I can not achieve the same result simply by
> using (I am using gdb 4.18):
>
> (gdb)set follow-fork-mode child
As far as I can tell, `set follow-fork-mode' only works on HP-UX.
/assar
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Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
> >
> > > Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Other OSes started to avoid version bumps. Linux promises to not bump
> > > > the libc version since glibc2.
> > >
> > > Yes, we now have a multitude of patches floating around for all those
> > > gli
Please word-wrap your messages, as reading them unwrapped is a major
nuisance.
> On my dual processor I am running old boot blocks and an AOUT kernel.
> I need the AOUT because I have a lkm device the talks out the parallel
> port to "Background Debug Module" for a Motorola 68332. I haven't be
On 09-Sep-99 Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power
> outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front
> panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two
> options:
There are no jumpers on the mobo to h
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote:
>
> How is it that BIOS settings can affect this? Do they fiddle
> with some battery-backed switch on the motherboard?
The ATX power supply has a lead or two that are always powered. This allows
the machine do softpower on. It also means that the bio
On my dual processor I am running old boot blocks and an AOUT kernel. I need the AOUT
because I have a lkm device the talks out the parallel port to "Background Debug
Module" for a Motorola 68332. I haven't been able to convert it over yet.
My code is up to date with cvs-cur.5648.gz (Sept. 9
Can someone who understands make(1)
check out bin/13039
specifically the fix would be nice in 3.3 if we can get it
(the fix is in the PR)
julian
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Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
> >
> > > Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Other OSes started to avoid version bumps. Linux promises to not bump
> > > > the libc version since glibc2.
> > >
> > > Yes, we now have a multitude of patches floating around for all those
> > > gl
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> >
> > > Disabled
> > > no automatic restart on power failure
> >
> > You _should_ be able to change this.
> >
> > > none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as
> > > routers or firewalls where an U
hi my names donna kean and i'm a 3rd year is student at the australian defence
force academy. i'm enrolled in a systems administration course and i have to
write an assignment about freebsd gui tools that help sysadmins do their work
such as create users, monitor the system etc. i was hopeing t
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
>
> > Disabled
> > no automatic restart on power failure
>
> You _should_ be able to change this.
>
> > none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as
> > routers or firewalls where an UPS is overkill
In the last episode (Sep 10), Andrew Reilly said:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 01:21:09PM +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:08:01PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
> > > really easy, with a shell script that's just a case $SENDER
> >
> > It's even "easier" :-)
> > I subscribe new
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 01:21:09PM +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:08:01PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
> > really easy, with a shell script that's just a case $SENDER
>
> It's even "easier" :-)
> I subscribe new mailing lists (and resubscribed old ones) as
> maex-listn
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> >
> > > Disabled
> > > no automatic restart on power failure
> >
> > You _should_ be able to change this.
> >
> > > none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as
> > > routers or firewalls where an
hi my names donna kean and i'm a 3rd year is
student at the australian defence force academy. i'm enrolled in a systems
administration course and i have to write an assignment about freebsd gui tools
that help sysadmins do their work such as create users, monitor the system etc.
i was hope
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
>
> > Disabled
> > no automatic restart on power failure
>
> You _should_ be able to change this.
>
> > none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as
> > routers or firewalls where an UPS is overkil
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
>
> > Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
> > >
> > > Other OSes started to avoid version bumps. Linux promises to not bump
> > > the libc version since glibc2.
> >
> > Yes, we now have a multitude of patches floating around for all those
> > glibc2 binaries that just won't work on glibc
In the last episode (Sep 10), Andrew Reilly said:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 01:21:09PM +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:08:01PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
> > > really easy, with a shell script that's just a case $SENDER
> >
> > It's even "easier" :-)
> > I subscribe ne
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 01:21:09PM +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:08:01PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
> > really easy, with a shell script that's just a case $SENDER
>
> It's even "easier" :-)
> I subscribe new mailing lists (and resubscribed old ones) as
> [EMAIL PR
This appears to be an oversight on the developers of gdb's part, but
direct from the info page:
GDB has no special support for debugging programs which create
additional processes using the `fork' function. When a program forks,
GDB will continue to debug the parent process and the child proc
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
>
> > Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
> > >
> > > Other OSes started to avoid version bumps. Linux promises to not bump
> > > the libc version since glibc2.
> >
> > Yes, we now have a multitude of patches floating around for all those
> > glibc2 binaries that just won't work on glib
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 05:43:17PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote:
>
>> 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :).
>
>On a different topic, does anyone know of a good X mailer
>(currently I am using exmh) :
>
>1. user friendly
>2. filtering capability
>3. thread topic support
>
>
>Kin
> > For what it's worth, I agree with Marcel. Version bumps should be
> > discouraged, but not totally avoided.
>
> What is the reason to not avoid the version bump?
Because if you don't have the latest/greatest library (old machines),
newer programs that are compiled against the latest/greates
> For what it's worth, I agree with Marcel. Version bumps should be
> discouraged, but not totally avoided.
What is the reason to not avoid the version bump?
> Carrying around old libraries
> with older version numbers is *hardly* a burden for the users, and those
> folks who are running old ve
This appears to be an oversight on the developers of gdb's part, but
direct from the info page:
GDB has no special support for debugging programs which create
additional processes using the `fork' function. When a program forks,
GDB will continue to debug the parent process and the child pro
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999, Narvi wrote:
> It sounds like a "FreeBSD VM", VM taken to mean virtual machine. Anybody
> in such a 'jar' would not notice (be able to notice) the existence of
> others at all.
>
> With somedata hiding and given file systems mounted only in such a 'jar'
> the ones in it woul
> > For what it's worth, I agree with Marcel. Version bumps should be
> > discouraged, but not totally avoided.
>
> What is the reason to not avoid the version bump?
Because if you don't have the latest/greatest library (old machines),
newer programs that are compiled against the latest/greate
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 05:43:17PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote:
>
>> 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :).
>
>On a different topic, does anyone know of a good X mailer
>(currently I am using exmh) :
>
>1. user friendly
>2. filtering capability
>3. thread topic support
>
>
>Ki
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote:
> I think he wants something like an "inverted chroot"
> (you can see out but others can't see in?
> (into all facets, e.g. process stats, etc.)
>
It sounds like a "FreeBSD VM", VM taken to mean virtual machine. Anybody
in such a 'jar' would not notic
> For what it's worth, I agree with Marcel. Version bumps should be
> discouraged, but not totally avoided.
What is the reason to not avoid the version bump?
> Carrying around old libraries
> with older version numbers is *hardly* a burden for the users, and those
> folks who are running old v
* Daniel O'Connor (docon...@gsoft.com.au) [990909 07:15]:
>On 09-Sep-99 Gustavo V G C Rios wrote:
>> > I would not be able to see any other proccess which i am not the
>> > owner, top would indicated, only 8 proccess, for this current scenario.
>> >
>> > Linux already have such a facility!
>
>Hack
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999, Mike Pritchard wrote:
> I used to work somewhere where we didn't wany any of the users
> to know anything about any other groups of users processes.
> We did this by restricting ps to only show other procs that
> had the same primary group as the person executing ps.
> Root an
> > > Yes, we shouldn't version bump every time someone has a whim, ending
> > > up with 10 version bumps/week, but neither should we avoid them
> > > altogether and cause the Linux syndrome of programs refusing to work
> > > because they have the *wrong* version of glibc2.3 (or whatever)
> >
Sheldon Hearn wrote:
>
> On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:56:05 CST, Nate Williams wrote:
>
> > Yes, we shouldn't version bump every time someone has a whim, ending
> > up with 10 version bumps/week, but neither should we avoid them
> > altogether and cause the Linux syndrome of programs refusing to work
>
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999, Narvi wrote:
> It sounds like a "FreeBSD VM", VM taken to mean virtual machine. Anybody
> in such a 'jar' would not notice (be able to notice) the existence of
> others at all.
>
> With somedata hiding and given file systems mounted only in such a 'jar'
> the ones in it wou
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote:
> I think he wants something like an "inverted chroot"
> (you can see out but others can't see in?
> (into all facets, e.g. process stats, etc.)
>
It sounds like a "FreeBSD VM", VM taken to mean virtual machine. Anybody
in such a 'jar' would not noti
> Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
> >
> > Other OSes started to avoid version bumps. Linux promises to not bump
> > the libc version since glibc2.
>
> Yes, we now have a multitude of patches floating around for all those
> glibc2 binaries that just won't work on glibc2.1. Instead of a simple and
> intuiti
If memory serves me right, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power
> > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front
> > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bio
* Daniel O'Connor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990909 07:15]:
>On 09-Sep-99 Gustavo V G C Rios wrote:
>> > I would not be able to see any other proccess which i am not the
>> > owner, top would indicated, only 8 proccess, for this current scenario.
>> >
>> > Linux already have such a facility!
>
>Hack ps
Mike Smith wrote:
>
> > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power
> > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front
> > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two
> > options:
> >
> > Disabled
> > no automa
[redirected to -advocacy where this belonged first off]
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote:
> There is a short but sweet[1] article on ZDNet today regarding FreeBSD:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2324624,00.html
>
> Not too in-depth, but it gives
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999, Mike Pritchard wrote:
> I used to work somewhere where we didn't wany any of the users
> to know anything about any other groups of users processes.
> We did this by restricting ps to only show other procs that
> had the same primary group as the person executing ps.
> Root a
There is a short but sweet[1] article on ZDNet today regarding FreeBSD:
http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2324624,00.html
Not too in-depth, but it gives a good quick overview, calling FreeBSD a
true Unix, emphasizing it's history compared to Linux.
-
Chris D. Fa
> > > Yes, we shouldn't version bump every time someone has a whim, ending
> > > up with 10 version bumps/week, but neither should we avoid them
> > > altogether and cause the Linux syndrome of programs refusing to work
> > > because they have the *wrong* version of glibc2.3 (or whatever)
> >
> From: Garance A Drosihn
> Date: 1999-09-09 10:33:59 -0700
> To: jus...@apple.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)
> In-reply-to: <199909090144.saa02...@rhapture.apple.com>
> X-Sender: dro...@mail.rpi.edu
>
> At 6:44 PM -0700 9/8/99, Justin C. Walk
Sheldon Hearn wrote:
>
> On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:56:05 CST, Nate Williams wrote:
>
> > Yes, we shouldn't version bump every time someone has a whim, ending
> > up with 10 version bumps/week, but neither should we avoid them
> > altogether and cause the Linux syndrome of programs refusing to work
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