Re: Much publisher translates "the hard way" and produces "shit" of type firewall transform "Wall of Fire" shell transform "other thing " and such :)

2014-04-03 Thread Remko Lodder
On 02 Apr 2014, at 22:42, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2014-04-02 16:11, velocidade da luz wrote: >> A moderator of the Brazilian group users FreeBSD (FUG-BR) told me via chat >> list FUG-BR: Care to go see books in bookstores of Linux or BSD in >> Portuguese . Much publisher translates "the hard wa

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Torbjorn Granlund
Glen Barber writes: It is not a doc problem. The issue is specific to certain hardware configurations, and unless anyone has made any breakthroughs that I am unaware of, the cause is still unknown. It happens on: AMD piledriver running Linux+KVM AMD piledriver running Linux+Xen Int

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Torbjorn Granlund
Warren Block writes: Do we? What should it say? Please be specific, preferably in the form of a PR. Is this really a doc problem? Full disclosure. Don't downplay. Both the scope and the gravity of the issue is grossly downplayed here The truth is that FreeBSD/i386 10 is completely

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > Glen Barber writes: > > It is not a doc problem. > > The issue is specific to certain hardware configurations, and unless > anyone has made any breakthroughs that I am unaware of, the cause is > still unknown. > >

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 03/04/2014 12:36, Glen Barber wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: Glen Barber writes: It is not a doc problem. The issue is specific to certain hardware configurations, and unless anyone has made any breakthroughs that I am unaware of, the

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 02:08:15PM +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 03/04/2014 12:36, Glen Barber wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > >>Glen Barber writes: > >> > >> It is not a doc problem. > >> The issue is specific to certain hardware configurati

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: Warren Block writes: Do we? What should it say? Please be specific, preferably in the form of a PR. Is this really a doc problem? Full disclosure. Don't downplay. Both the scope and the gravity of the issue is grossly downplayed here I ask

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > > Glen Barber writes: > > The issue is specific to certain hardware configurations, and unless > > anyone has made any breakthroughs that I am unaware of, the cau

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Torbjorn Granlund
Glen Barber writes: On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > > Glen Barber writes: > > The issue is specific to certain hardware configurations, and unless > > anyone has made any breakthroug

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Allan Jude
On 2014-04-03 04:54, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > Warren Block writes: > > Do we? What should it say? Please be specific, preferably in the > form of a PR. Is this really a doc problem? > > Full disclosure. Don't downplay. Both the scope and the gravity of the > issue is grossly downp

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Allan Jude
On 2014-04-03 09:08, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 03/04/2014 12:36, Glen Barber wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: >>> Glen Barber writes: >>> >>>It is not a doc problem. >>> The issue is specific to certain hardware configurations, and >>> unless

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Allan Jude
On 2014-04-03 10:25, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > Glen Barber writes: > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > > > Glen Barber writes: > > > The issue is specific to certain hardware configur

Explanation for mailing list freebsd.doc

2014-04-03 Thread velocidade da luz
Oh, Remko. I posting this on the list to see other people express their opinions and that's fine. Proof of this is that there was a great change in topic that WBLOCK posted in FreeBSD Forums when I copied your response sent to me via private email. reference:http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopi

Re: Downplaying a serious issue

2014-04-03 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > I've mentioned it on FreeBSD lists before. But after having lost many > hours on reporting the ssh panic for FreeBSD/amd64 and FreeBSD/i386 > (amd64/183397), I didn't file a PR for this I understand your frustration, but when pe

newcons wiki page

2014-04-03 Thread Eric Roseman
The newcons wiki page (https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons) Testing section says: To enable Newcons on i386 or amd64, remove the vga and sc drivers, and add vt and vt_vga. #devicevga # VGA video card driver #devicesc

Re: newcons wiki page

2014-04-03 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:17:14PM +, Eric Roseman wrote: > The newcons wiki page (https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons) Testing > section says: > > To enable Newcons on i386 or amd64, remove the vga and sc drivers, and add vt > and vt_vga. > #devicevga # VGA video card driver

Re: docs/187473: [porters-handbook]: update Qt and KDE sections

2014-04-03 Thread wblock
Synopsis: [porters-handbook]: update Qt and KDE sections Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->wblock Responsible-Changed-By: wblock Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 4 00:19:11 UTC 2014 Responsible-Changed-Why: Take. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=187473