Re: make world is failed on pc98

1999-12-12 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: > > > BTW: Is there a special reason to have boot2 in aout? > > Because nobody transplant from the i386 boot2 :-). > FreeBSD(98) porting team is always suffering from a shortage of > workers. > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Re: ppp over pty: trying to detect CD

1999-12-12 Thread CHOI, Junho
> "JH" == Jon Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JH> Running -current from this afternoon, I am having a strange JH> symptom with ppp over a pty; ppp does not detect that the pty JH> does not support carrier, and will cycle once per second JH> waiting for CD to appear. Put

Re: Modules and sysctl tree

1999-12-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jul ian Elischer writes: [sysctlfs] >Linux have basically done this in their procfs. And have recently started to wonder if that wasn't a mistake I've heard. I would regard sysctlfs as a grave mistake. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member [E

Re: Audio support [was Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!]

1999-12-12 Thread nnd
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kenneth Wayne Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a question which I'm not sure is soundcard related. My xmms no longer > starts up anymore, it just hangs in Poll before it actually puts anything > on the display, is that because /dev/dsp isn't working?

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-12 Thread Nik Clayton
On Fri, Dec 10, 1999 at 07:01:49PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > The ata driver has been available for you and other to test for a long > time. That may be the case, but the vast majority of our users don't run -current, for good reason, and so are in no position to test it. 4.0 will be t

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wilko Bulte writes: >On Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 09:00:52AM -0800, Bob Vaughan wrote: >> > Subject: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! >> > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:19:43 +0100 >> > From: Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > >> > Maybe we should put a

Re: Modules and sysctl tree

1999-12-12 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > In other words, it's not a problem specific to KLD's .. but > > it's still a problem :-) > > Which raises an important issue - other than walking the sysctl tree > regularly looking for changes, how does such an application become > aware that the sysctl space h

Re: ata: lost disk contact errors [was: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!]

1999-12-12 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 12:57:04PM -0800, Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm getting the "lost disk contact" messages every now and then, but > > only on our mp3 machine with PIIX3 controller and IBM UDMA/66 disk. It's > > an PPro machine with Intel mobo. Can it be related to newer IBM

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nik Clayton writ es: >On Fri, Dec 10, 1999 at 07:01:49PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> The ata driver has been available for you and other to test for a long >> time. > >That may be the case, but the vast majority of our users don't run >-current, for good re

Re: Audio support [was Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!]

1999-12-12 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > Actually, I'm sad to say that our shiny new sound system does *not* > > work for some of the most popular audio chipsets on the market today > > (where the older "luigi" sound system did support them) and this is a >

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-12 Thread Nik Clayton
On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 11:59:38AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >Poul, I'd like to know what's wrong with > > > > (1) Putting ata in GENERIC > > > > (2) Keeping wd in LINT, commented out > > This will not force CURRENT users to change their configs, a config > with wd in it will still wo

Re: Audio support [was Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!]

1999-12-12 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Doug Rabson wrote: > > > The recent commits made existing support even worse. Yes, I'm talking > > about the ESS1888. It's more dead than before. I'll have to make the > > noise myself these days, and I can tell you it's no opera :-) > > > > In short: Gimme patches! I'll be happy to test and, in

Re: make world is failed on pc98

1999-12-12 Thread Takahashi Yoshihiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marcel Moolenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since pc98 only has a specialized boot2 and thus shares boot0 and boot1 > with other architectures, it can be assumed that an ELF boot2 doesn't > need any special hacking in boot0 and/or boot1, right? No, if HDD is for

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-12 Thread Leif Neland
On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > (3) A big notice in UPDATING, saying that ata is the replacement for >wd. Make wd require "options I_WANT_WD" or something similar, >so that people can't simply re-config their existing configuration >file. > To be nasty: Ch

Re: Audio support [was Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!]

1999-12-12 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > > The recent commits made existing support even worse. Yes, I'm talking > > > about the ESS1888. It's more dead than before. I'll have to make the > > > noise myself these days, and I can tell you it's no opera :-) > > > >

Fwd: Idle loop in SMP.

1999-12-12 Thread Remy Nonnenmacher
(Forwarded to -current, due to lack of audience in -smp. Sorry for bothering you). -- Forwarded message -- From: Remy Nonnenmacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Idle loop in SMP. Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:43:40 +0100 (CET) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wh

syscons extension: "propellers"

1999-12-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
Hi, I have (long time ago) written some extensions to syscons, and finally decided to clean them up, document and submit them. (Being tired of updating and merging them every time a new FreeBSD release comes out...) The patches can be found in kern/15436, and it would be really great if they cou

Re: Vibra 16 doesn't recognised anymore

1999-12-12 Thread Frank Nobis
On Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 11:31:39AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Some time ago my soundcard (Vibra 16C), which worked just fine > previously, stopped being recognised/attached. Following is relevant > pieces of dmesg and pnpinfo: > > [...] > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices > unknown0: a

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-12 Thread Peter Wemm
Leif Neland wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > (3) A big notice in UPDATING, saying that ata is the replacement for > >wd. Make wd require "options I_WANT_WD" or something similar, > >so that people can't simply re-config their existing configuration

Re: vinum start needs block device

1999-12-12 Thread Kevin Street
"Jordan K. Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Since the recent block device vanishment, MAKEDEV all and my vinum > > volumes have failed to start. > > Please read /usr/src/UPDATING if you're going to track -current > these days. The reason for this is clearly documented at the > top of th

Re: vinum start needs block device

1999-12-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Street writes: >Jordan, I don't understand your answer. Using the new MAKEDEV is what >causes vinum to fail. Won't -release be using the new MAKEDEV? > >Greg, is there a mechanism to transition an existing vinum >installation to the new device nodes? I th

What happened to netstat?

1999-12-12 Thread Donald J . Maddox
After rebuilding World and kernel last night, I find that the behavior of 'netstat -a' has changed... Only UNIX domain sockets are shown in the output, no inet stuff at all, e.g.: # netstat -a Active UNIX domain sockets Address Type Recv-Q Send-QInode Conn Refs Nextref Addr cbf67

Re: vinum start needs block device

1999-12-12 Thread Peter Wemm
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Street writes: > > >Jordan, I don't understand your answer. Using the new MAKEDEV is what > >causes vinum to fail. Won't -release be using the new MAKEDEV? > > > >Greg, is there a mechanism to transition an existing vinum > >insta

vinum start needs block device

1999-12-12 Thread Greg Lehey
I'm on the road now, and writing mail is like pulling teeth. phk supplied the correct patch. phk, could you commit it, please? Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscri

Re: vinum start needs block device

1999-12-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Lehey writes: >I'm on the road now, and writing mail is like pulling teeth. phk >supplied the correct patch. phk, could you commit it, please? Done. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real hackers run

Re: vinum start needs block device

1999-12-12 Thread FUJISHIMA Satsuki
At Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:37:29 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that between the two of us, Greg and I have lost a oneline > patch on the floor, try this: > > Index: vinumio.c This patch solved my problem, and I found it has already been committed to the tree. :) tha

Re: Modules and sysctl tree

1999-12-12 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Garrett Wollman: > It's listening on a kernel notification socket. (Implementation is an > exercise left for the reader, but there are already a few examples.) Like the routing socket I guess ? Or we could implement POLLSYSCTL ? :-) /me hides and runs -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Free

Re: vinum start needs block device

1999-12-12 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Jordan, I don't understand your answer. Using the new MAKEDEV is what > causes vinum to fail. Won't -release be using the new MAKEDEV? Sorry, I evidently didn't read the message the same way. If the problem is indeed as you say then vinum has been broken; I thought he was talking about using

make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
I'm still running a -CURRENT from just before the signal changes and for the past 4 days, my nightly buildworld has been dying at follows: ===> games/fortune/datfiles PATH=$PATH:/usr/games:/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/../strfile st rfile -Crs /3.0/cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/fo

Among the ATA casualties...

1999-12-12 Thread Adam Wight
Against my better judgment, I've been running -current on, among other machines, a Dell Latitude XP 475C... The wd driver manages to deal with the inevitable cruft quite nicely, but the ata driver refuses to mount the root partition. To the best of my knowledge the chipset is the Western Digital

Re: Among the ATA casualties...

1999-12-12 Thread Mike Smith
> Against my better judgment, I've been running -current on, among other > machines, a Dell Latitude XP 475C... The wd driver manages to deal with > the inevitable cruft quite nicely, but the ata driver refuses to mount > the root partition. > > To the best of my knowledge the chipset is the Wes

Broken sound on an Avance Asound 110

1999-12-12 Thread Bryan Liesner
In a kernel built from sources current as of 21:00 EST, I no longer have sound. dmesg from yesterday: pcm0: at port 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 unknown0: at port 0x388-0x38f on isa0 joy0: at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0 unknown1: at port 0x330-0x331 irq 9 on isa0 The above worked without

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 1999-Dec-13 11:06:19 +1100, I wrote: >I'm still running a -CURRENT from just before the signal changes and >for the past 4 days, my nightly buildworld has been dying at follows: > >===> games/fortune/datfiles >PATH=$PATH:/usr/games:/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/../strfile strfile

Segfault on $f->print for IO::File

1999-12-12 Thread mah
This is a bug report for perl from [EMAIL PROTECTED], generated with the help of perlbug 1.26 running under perl 5.00503. - [Please enter your report here] The following segfaults on the "setpos" line. It only does this with the "

Re: Among the ATA casualties...

1999-12-12 Thread Adam Wight
> > boot -v output using the wd driver follows: > > That's not very helpful; we know it works. How about some information on > the problem? Well... I'd sure like to send a boot -v for a kernel using ata... I don't have the right hardware here to use a serial console, however. Here are the rel

Developer's Interface Guide for IA-64 Servers (DIG64) Adopter

1999-12-12 Thread Thrumbar Pathfinder
Attention, all FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD developers.. This is a chance we cannot ignore.. Please form up a development team with a central tram leader and get signed up for this offer. The Documentation personnel should sign up for the Contributors link to add BSD's voice in setting the guide

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
>On 1999-Dec-13 11:06:19 +1100, I wrote: >I'm still running a -CURRENT from just before the signal changes and >for the past 4 days, my nightly buildworld has been dying at follows: > >===> games/fortune/datfiles >PATH=$PATH:/usr/games:/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/../strfile strfile

Re: What happened to netstat?

1999-12-12 Thread Clive Lin
On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 10:37:01AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > After rebuilding World and kernel last night, I find that the behavior of > 'netstat -a' has changed... Only UNIX domain sockets are shown in the Errr... may I complain ? I got the same problem :( current last night. -- CirX

Re: Among the ATA casualties...

1999-12-12 Thread Mike Smith
> > > boot -v output using the wd driver follows: > > > > That's not very helpful; we know it works. How about some information on > > the problem? > > Well... I'd sure like to send a boot -v for a kernel using ata... I don't > have the right hardware here to use a serial console, however. Th

Re: Among the ATA casualties...

1999-12-12 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Adam Wight wrote: > Against my better judgment, I've been running -current on, among other > machines, a Dell Latitude XP 475C... The wd driver manages to deal with > the inevitable cruft quite nicely, but the ata driver refuses to mount > the root partition. > > To the best of my knowl

Re: ATA weird message?

1999-12-12 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Munehiro Matsuda wrote: > Hi all, > > I am using -current as of December 9 (CTM:src-cur.4130.gz), and > got following weird ATA related messages while 'make -j4 buildworld'. > I never had this kind of message when using wd drivers. > > ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact -

Re: ata: lost disk contact errors [was: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!]

1999-12-12 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 12:57:04PM -0800, Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > > I'm getting the "lost disk contact" messages every now and then, but > > > only on our mp3 machine with PIIX3 controller and IBM UDMA/66 disk. It's > > > an PPro machine with

Re: ATA weird message?

1999-12-12 Thread Mike Smith
> It seems Munehiro Matsuda wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am using -current as of December 9 (CTM:src-cur.4130.gz), and > > got following weird ATA related messages while 'make -j4 buildworld'. > > I never had this kind of message when using wd drivers. > > > > ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost d