Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-24 Thread Paul Richards
Mark Murray wrote: > > > Why does crypt need to be in libc? Not even a significant fraction of > > applications need crypt? > > Goes for very many libc components. Quite a lot of userland needs libcrypt > (not much as a proportion, but a non-insignificant number). This runs counter to my gut i

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-23 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >-=-=- >===> libexec/fingerd >cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include -c /src/src/libexec/fingerd/fi >ngerd.c >cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include -o fingerd fingerd.o -lutil >/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/lib/l

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-23 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must >depend on libcrypt too. > >-=-=- >===> libexec/fingerd >cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include -c /src/src/libexec/fingerd/fi >ngerd.c >cc -O -p

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must > >> depend on libcrypt too. > > No. This is precisely why shared libraries have dependencies. For >

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: > <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must > >> depend on libcrypt too. > > No. This is precisely why shared lib

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must >> depend on libcrypt too. No. This is precisely why shared libraries have dependencies. For static linking, what Brian has done Just Works.

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray
> A growing libc makes static binaries grow and makes it more difficult to > strip out unneeded functionality from a minimalist system install. I'd > been inclined to try and move things the other way and strip stuff out > of libc into separate libraries but that's obviously not in vogue at the >

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray
> -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must > >depend on libcrypt too. > > Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the > crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. A

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Nate Williams
> > >> Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the > > >> crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. > > >> > > >> It would make sense. > > > > > >It would make even make more sense to convince the other BSD to do the same > > >(haven't checked recently what they do) a

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:25:50 +0100, Paul Richards wrote: > Is there any current policy on what libc is? For some reason, I seem to remember Bruce Evans once calling it "the kitchen sink". :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Paul Richards
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > > -On [2822 17:55], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven: > >> Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the > >> crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. > >> > >> It would

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2822 17:55], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven: >> Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the >> crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. >> >> It would make sense. > >It would make even make more sense

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven: > Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the > crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. > > It would make sense. It would make even make more sense to convince the other BSD to do the same (haven't checked recently what

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must >depend on libcrypt too. Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. It would make

make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert
Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must depend on libcrypt too. -=-=- ===> libexec/fingerd cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include -c /src/src/libexec/fingerd/fi ngerd.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include -o fingerd fingerd.o -lutil /