Re: heads up (15.0 pkgbase): gssd, kerberos, kernel

2025-07-25 Thread Lexi Winter
sorry, i forgot to mention another change: the online manual pages in sections 4 and 9 have been moved to a new package, FreeBSD-kernel-man. if you want these manpages, you should install that package. if you install a new system using the pkgbase installer (bsdinstall) from caddfcd546e0 or later,

Re: heads up (15.0 pkgbase): Kerberos package names

2025-07-24 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu 24 Jul 11:47, Lexi Winter wrote: > hello, > > commit c7da9fb90b0b enabled WITH_MITKRB5 by default, which changed the > name of the Kerberos packages from FreeBSD-kerberos* to FreeBSD-krb5*. > > i have just landed 4cb1baa7d85c to undo this change, so the packages are > now called FreeBSD-ke

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-06-08 Thread Rozhuk Ivan
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:06:54 +0200 Dimitry Andric wrote: > In https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=2e47f35be5dc I committed a > change to convert libllvm, libclang, and liblldb into private shared > libraries. This means that tools like clang, lld, lldb, and more are > now quite a bit smaller,

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread Mark Millard
Garrett Wollman wrote on Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 19:09:47 UTC : > < said: > > > If everyone over-indexes on stable/15 wifi stability, ABI, KBI, etc, then > > you're going to > > see one of two things: > > I don't use wireless (or laptops generally) under FreeBSD but I think > it's pretty clear t

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 at 10:03, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 09:40:27AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > Bringing it back to wifi: we're so far behind the curve on WiFi today > > that we shouldn't saddle it with stability prematurely. We should do > > things like kv pairs to make it be

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 09:40:27AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > Bringing it back to wifi: we're so far behind the curve on WiFi today > that we shouldn't saddle it with stability prematurely. We should do > things like kv pairs to make it better. We should try not to shoot > ourselves in the foot. B

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread Warner Losh
On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 9:20 AM David Chisnall wrote: > > On 5 Jun 2025, at 15:59, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Never going to happen. That's not possible today for any module at all. We > can't even do minor releases with anything complicated (though some simpler > drivers can work with sufficient

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread David Chisnall
On 5 Jun 2025, at 15:59, Warner Losh wrote: > > Never going to happen. That's not possible today for any module at all. We > can't even do minor releases with anything complicated (though some simpler > drivers can work with sufficient effort). When did this stop being a guarantee that we at l

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread Marek Zarychta
W dniu 4.06.2025 o 19:51, Bjoern A. Zeeb pisze: Hello, Cc: wireless, current, stable, desktop FreeBSD WiFi development has regained traction.  We are facing a decision with FreeBSD 15 coming before the end of this year [1]. In order to continue WiFi development, upcoming changes will inevitabl

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread Warner Losh
On Thu, Jun 5, 2025, 3:25 AM David Chisnall wrote: > Thanks, > > I always believe that our stability policies should be things that exist > to improve the experience of downstream folks, not sticks we beat ourselves > with. They should adapt with changing needs. > > The main issues with changing

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread Tomek CEDRO
On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 7:52 PM Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > FreeBSD WiFi development has regained traction. We are facing a > decision with FreeBSD 15 coming before the end of this year [1]. > > In order to continue WiFi development, upcoming changes will inevitably > break the net80211-driver and net

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-05 Thread David Chisnall
Thanks, I always believe that our stability policies should be things that exist to improve the experience of downstream folks, not sticks we beat ourselves with. They should adapt with changing needs. The main issues with changing network ABIs come from jails. If ifconfig in a 14.x jail doesn

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-04 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 6/4/25 19:51, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: This would imply development happening in FreeBSD 16-CURRENT (main at that point) would stay there.  The first release to ship anything major beyond now would be FreeBSD 16.0 in December 2027 [1]. After some discussion we think this is not a feasible soluti

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-04 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 00:16:51 +0200 Jan Bramkamp wrote: > On 05.06.25 00:04, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2025, 2:57 PM Jan Bramkamp wrote: > > > > On 04.06.25 19:51, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Cc: wireless, current, stable, desktop > > > >

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-04 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 at 15:17, Jan Bramkamp wrote: > On 05.06.25 00:04, Warner Losh wrote: > > > If you update userland and kernel at the same time, life will be good. > It's only when you have skew that there's a problem. So install both for > src build, or update all the pkgbase packages at once

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-04 Thread Jan Bramkamp
On 05.06.25 00:04, Warner Losh wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2025, 2:57 PM Jan Bramkamp wrote: On 04.06.25 19:51, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > Hello, > > Cc: wireless, current, stable, desktop > > FreeBSD WiFi development has regained traction.  We are facing a > decision with

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-04 Thread Warner Losh
On Wed, Jun 4, 2025, 2:57 PM Jan Bramkamp wrote: > On 04.06.25 19:51, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Cc: wireless, current, stable, desktop > > > > FreeBSD WiFi development has regained traction. We are facing a > > decision with FreeBSD 15 coming before the end of this year [1]. > > >

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-04 Thread Jan Bramkamp
On 04.06.25 19:51, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: Hello, Cc: wireless, current, stable, desktop FreeBSD WiFi development has regained traction.  We are facing a decision with FreeBSD 15 coming before the end of this year [1]. In order to continue WiFi development, upcoming changes will inevitably break

Re: HEADS UP: wireless KPI and KBI and FreeBSD 15

2025-06-04 Thread Warner Losh
On Wed, Jun 4, 2025, 10:52 AM Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > Hello, > > Cc: wireless, current, stable, desktop > > FreeBSD WiFi development has regained traction. We are facing a > decision with FreeBSD 15 coming before the end of this year [1]. > > In order to continue WiFi development, upcoming chang

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade

2025-05-28 Thread Pete Wright
On 5/27/25 18:18, Lexi Winter wrote: hello, if you use 15.0 with pkgbase, there are two recent changes which might require manual intervention following "pkg upgrade": 7672d8d81ac1 moved ctld into the new FreeBSD-ctl package. if you use ctld, you should install this package. cc8c77c9e036 m

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade

2025-05-28 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
Le 28 mai 2025 08:37:43 GMT+02:00, Ronald Klop a écrit : >Van: Lexi Winter >Datum: 28 mei 2025 03:19 >Aan: pkgb...@freebsd.org, curr...@freebsd.org >Onderwerp: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade > >> >> >> >> hello, >> >> if you use 15.0 with pkgbase, there are two rece

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade

2025-05-28 Thread Lexi Winter
Ronald Klop: > This makes me think of the /usr/ports/MOVED construction. Maybe > something similar can be useful for base pkgs. ideally this isn't something we want to be doing on an ongoing basis. at the moment there are a number of files that are installed in the wrong package by accident (usua

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade

2025-05-27 Thread Ronald Klop
Van: Lexi Winter Datum: 28 mei 2025 03:19 Aan: pkgb...@freebsd.org, curr...@freebsd.org Onderwerp: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade hello, if you use 15.0 with pkgbase, there are two recent changes which might require manual intervention following "pkg upgrade": 76

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-22 Thread void
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 08:09:13PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: as kp said, this is broken, but you can trivially fix it by moving the IP addresses to the bridge interface instead. note that for SLAAC to work on a bridge, you have to set ‘accept_rtadv’ and ‘auto_linklocal’ on the bridge interface

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-22 Thread Lexi Winter
void: > On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 11:33:50AM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: > > in short, following this commit... > > > > b61850c4e6f "bridge(4): default net.link.bridge.member_ifaddrs to false" > > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=b61850c4e6f6b0f21b36da7238db969d9090309e > > > > ...it is now im

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-21 Thread Andriy Gapon
On 21/05/2025 18:01, void wrote: This bhyve host was set up following instructions from the bhyve section of the handbook. I've just checked and no mention is made of the new requirement in section 24.7.1 of the handbook at https://freebsd.org/handbook So, if a lot of people run bhyve guests as

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-21 Thread void
On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 04:44:46PM +0200, Kristof Provost wrote: [2] because here bge1 has an ip addigned to it and is a bridge member Yes, that is a problem. Assign REDACTED.REAL.IP to bridge1, not to bge1. Oof! Thank you for clarifying. I'm glad I asked. This bhyve host was set up followi

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-21 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
might also want to look at autobridge* options while you redo that config

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-21 Thread Kristof Provost
On 21 May 2025, at 16:40, void wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 11:33:50AM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: although it's possible everyone who is affected by this is already aware of the change, i thought i should send a heads up anyway, if only to have a single place to discuss this (since there was q

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-21 Thread void
On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 11:33:50AM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: although it's possible everyone who is affected by this is already aware of the change, i thought i should send a heads up anyway, if only to have a single place to discuss this (since there was quite a lot of discussion). in short, fo

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-29 Thread Shawn Webb
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 08:44:50PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 29 Apr 2025, at 19:43, Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 07:42:44PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > >> On 27 Apr 2025, at 17:04, Shawn Webb wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry An

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-29 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 29 Apr 2025, at 19:43, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 07:42:44PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: >> On 27 Apr 2025, at 17:04, Shawn Webb wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: >> ... Please let me know if you encounter any problems res

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-29 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 07:42:44PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 27 Apr 2025, at 17:04, Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > ... > >> Please let me know if you encounter any problems resulting due to this > >> change, as I intend to MFC i

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-27 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 27 Apr 2025, at 17:04, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: ... >> Please let me know if you encounter any problems resulting due to this >> change, as I intend to MFC it. For example, I tried covering all >> incremental build scenarios, but I m

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-27 Thread Yusuf Yaman
I updated my source tree and did a whole world build then did the buildworld again without changing anything that would affect something to get rebuild and then the world has been built now in 192 seconds. Indeed, it seems pico files can be cached too. Sorry for the noise and thank you all! Hav

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-27 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > Hi, > > In https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=2e47f35be5dc I committed a > change to convert libllvm, libclang, and liblldb into private shared > libraries. This means that tools like clang, lld, lldb, and more are now > quite

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-27 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 27 Apr 2025, at 01:28, Yusuf Yaman wrote: > > I am a new user of 15.0-CURRENT and just updated my source tree and > noticed that there are now files to be built that have the ".pico" > extension, as a ccache user, i was enjoying fast world/kernel builds but > these files doesn't seem to get

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-26 Thread Gleb Popov
On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 2:28 AM Yusuf Yaman wrote: > > Hi, > > I am a new user of 15.0-CURRENT and just updated my source tree and > noticed that there are now files to be built that have the ".pico" > extension, as a ccache user, i was enjoying fast world/kernel builds but > these files doesn't s

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-26 Thread Yusuf Yaman
Hi, I am a new user of 15.0-CURRENT and just updated my source tree and noticed that there are now files to be built that have the ".pico" extension, as a ccache user, i was enjoying fast world/kernel builds but these files doesn't seem to get cached to me and my world builds are taking long t

Re: HEADS UP: iwlwifi firmware removed from main (stable/14 to follow), run fwget before updating

2025-04-18 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: Hi, and the firmware is now also gone from stable/14 (which at the same time got a few bug fixes for LinuxKPI malloc and LinuxKPI 802.11). In case you run into any issues updating from a supported 14.x or 15 (younger than a year old [3]) please follow-

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-09 Thread Rick Macklem
On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 9:43 AM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2025 at 02:52:28PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 5:45 PM Shawn Webb > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 05:36:07PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 4:43 PM Shawn Webb

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-09 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sun, Apr 06, 2025 at 02:52:28PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 5:45 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 05:36:07PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 4:43 PM Shawn Webb > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 04:12:15PM -

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-06 Thread Rick Macklem
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 5:45 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 05:36:07PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 4:43 PM Shawn Webb > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 04:12:15PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 9:12 AM Shawn Webb

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-05 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 05:36:07PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 4:43 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 04:12:15PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 9:12 AM Shawn Webb > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 08:52:06AM -

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-05 Thread Rick Macklem
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 4:43 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 04:12:15PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 9:12 AM Shawn Webb > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 08:52:06AM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 8:50 AM Rick Mackle

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-05 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 04:12:15PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 9:12 AM Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 08:52:06AM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 8:50 AM Rick Macklem > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:27 PM Sha

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-05 Thread Rick Macklem
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 9:12 AM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 08:52:06AM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 8:50 AM Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:27 PM Shawn Webb > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:04:25AM +,

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-05 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 08:52:06AM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 8:50 AM Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:27 PM Shawn Webb > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:04:25AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:40:21PM -0700

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-05 Thread Rick Macklem
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 8:50 AM Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:27 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:04:25AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:40:21PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shawn Webb > >

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-05 Thread Rick Macklem
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:27 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:04:25AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:40:21PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shawn Webb > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 06:12:59PM -070

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Rick Macklem
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:36 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:27:17AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:04:25AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:40:21PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shawn Webb

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Rick Macklem
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:27 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:04:25AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:40:21PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shawn Webb > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 06:12:59PM -070

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:04:25AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:40:21PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shawn Webb > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 06:12:59PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 4:52 PM Sh

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:27:17AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 01:04:25AM +, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:40:21PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shawn Webb > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 06:12:5

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Shawn Webb
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:40:21PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 06:12:59PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 4:52 PM Shawn Webb > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:51:26PM

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Rick Macklem
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 06:12:59PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 4:52 PM Shawn Webb > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:51:26PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > The commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main. I

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Shawn Webb
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 06:12:59PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 4:52 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:51:26PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > The commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main. I do not think it will > > > cause problems, but it is fairly large.

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 4/4/25 10:25, Rick Macklem wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:37 AM Rick Macklem wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 1:48 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: . . . well ooops what was the idea here again ?? Well, this has nothing to do with my recent commit. Thus ooops. ZFS has always suppor

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Rick Macklem
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:37 AM Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 1:48 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > > On 4/3/25 19:52, Shawn Webb wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:51:26PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > >> The commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main. I do not think it will > > >> ca

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Rick Macklem
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 1:48 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: > > On 4/3/25 19:52, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:51:26PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > >> The commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main. I do not think it will > >> cause problems, but it is fairly large. > >> > >> Man page updates w

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 4/3/25 19:52, Shawn Webb wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:51:26PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: The commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main. I do not think it will cause problems, but it is fairly large. Man page updates will be done as separate commits. Hopefully this will not cause grief, rick

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-03 Thread Rick Macklem
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 4:52 PM Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:51:26PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > > The commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main. I do not think it will > > cause problems, but it is fairly large. > > > > Man page updates will be done as separate commits. > > > > Hopef

Re: Heads Up: commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main

2025-04-03 Thread Shawn Webb
On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 01:51:26PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > The commit 2ec2ba7e232d just hit main. I do not think it will > cause problems, but it is fairly large. > > Man page updates will be done as separate commits. > > Hopefully this will not cause grief, rick Hey Rick, The patch revie

Re: Heads-up: Kernel module symbol resolution changing

2025-03-31 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:57:45 -0400 Ed Maste wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 at 23:03, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > > > On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 13:07:58 -0400 > > Ed Maste wrote: > > > > > Our in-kernel module linker currently performs symbol resolution > > > against local symbols from other modules, which

Re: HEADS UP: will remove iwlwifi firmware from src.git (main and stable/14) in April

2025-03-20 Thread Mark Millard
[Just a resend with the current and stable lists included.] On Mar 19, 2025, at 13:49, Mark Millard wrote: Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote on Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:55:17 UTC : > Hi, > > I pushed an update to the iwlwifi firmware port today[1] and with the last > release of FreeBSD 13 being out the d

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-02-01 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 06:06:27AM -0800, Rick Macklem wrote: R> You might want to put an entry in UPDATING noting that the daemons R> need to be upgraded with the kernel. Of course I did :) Short update on the resource leaks. The patch that reduces refcount on the back channel proved to be inco

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-02-01 Thread Rick Macklem
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:27 PM Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to > ith...@uoguelph

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-01-28 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 09:14:00PM -0800, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: T> Second, with the patch the M_RPC leak count for me is 2. And I found that these T> two items are basically is a clnt_vc that belongs to a closed connection: T> T> f80029614a80 tcp4 0 0 10.6.6.9.772 10.6.6.9.204

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-01-28 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 06:10:42PM -0800, Rick Macklem wrote: R> I think I've found a memory leak, but it shouldn't be a show stopper. R> R> What I did on the NFS client side is: R> # vmstat -m | fgrep -i rpc R> # mount -t nfs -o nfsv4,tls nfsv4-server:/ /mnt R> # ls --lR /mnt R> --> Then I networ

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-01-27 Thread Rick Macklem
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:27 PM Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to > ith...@uoguelph

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-01-26 Thread Rick Macklem
On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 1:44 PM Rick Macklem wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:27 PM Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do > > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > > know the content is s

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-01-26 Thread Rick Macklem
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:27 PM Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to > ith...@uoguelph

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-01-24 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 02:42:54PM -0800, Rick Macklem wrote: R> > The code is posted on phabricator, reviews D48547 through D48552. R> > Reviewers are very welcome! R> > R> > I share my branch on Github. It is usually rebased on today's CURRENT: R> > R> > https://github.com/glebius/FreeBSD/commits

Re: HEADS UP: NFS changes coming into CURRENT early February

2025-01-23 Thread Rick Macklem
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:27 PM Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to > ith...@uoguelph

Re: Heads-up: ifconfig address without a mask/width to become an error

2024-06-17 Thread Ed Maste
On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 11:16, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > In case there is no EN, what is the process to add information about > issues like this to the release notes? Something like "known issues", > which those of us who read the release notes can stumble over and check? Great question

Re: Heads-up: ifconfig address without a mask/width to become an error

2024-06-17 Thread Michael Gmelin
> On 17. Jun 2024, at 20:34, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:54:29AM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: >> It is currently possible to specify an IPv4 address without a >> netmask/width to ifconfig or in rc.conf, e.g.: >> >>ifconfig_igb0="192.168.0.2" >> >> phk recently discovered[

Re: Heads-up: ifconfig address without a mask/width to become an error

2024-06-17 Thread Shawn Webb
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:54:29AM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: > It is currently possible to specify an IPv4 address without a > netmask/width to ifconfig or in rc.conf, e.g.: > > ifconfig_igb0="192.168.0.2" > > phk recently discovered[1] that ifconfig chose a poor netmask/width > when none was sp

Re: Heads-up: ifconfig address without a mask/width to become an error

2024-06-17 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 10:54:29 -0400 Ed Maste wrote: > It is currently possible to specify an IPv4 address without a > netmask/width to ifconfig or in rc.conf, e.g.: > > ifconfig_igb0="192.168.0.2" > > phk recently discovered[1] that ifconfig chose a poor netmask/width > when none was spec

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-17 Thread The Doctor
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 11:00:07AM +0100, Olivier Certner wrote: > Hi Glen, > > > I also agree we cannot prevent people from downloading the images, > > installers, whatever before the announcement. That is the lovely race > > condition with which we have to live at the moment. > > Yes, and give

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-17 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Glen Barber wrote: > No. It merely suggests the release is not officially official yet. Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Jamie.

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-17 Thread Olivier Certner
Hi Glen, > I also agree we cannot prevent people from downloading the images, > installers, whatever before the announcement. That is the lovely race > condition with which we have to live at the moment. Yes, and given that, I don't think you did anything wrong. It seems that the race is the sa

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 09:22:52PM +, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > > Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are never > > official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email is intended > > for the general public of consumers of official releases, not "yeah, > > but"

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
> Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are never > official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email is intended > for the general public of consumers of official releases, not "yeah, > but"s. Foe a recent new build, I just went to the ftp site to grab the latest r

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread The Doctor
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:07:36AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > And if there is a reason to reissue a release, the update will reflect such. > > So to answer your latter question, yes. Unless it needs to be replaced. > > Glen > Sent from my phone. > Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > > > O

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
And if there is a reason to reissue a release, the update will reflect such. So to answer your latter question, yes. Unless it needs to be replaced. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 11:38 PM, The Doctor wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 1

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
Thank you for that. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 11:17 PM, Rich Reynolds wrote: > > On 11/15/23 20:19, Pete Wright wrote: >>> On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: >>> The alternative would be to say nothing at all. >>> >>> Either way,

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread The Doctor
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:30:30AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 08:39:39AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 11/14/23 8:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wr

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 07:19:39PM -0800, Pete Wright wrote: > > > On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: > > The alternative would be to say nothing at all. > > > > Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is > > a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the abo

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Pete Wright
On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: The alternative would be to say nothing at all. Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above context. We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights delaying

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 08:39:39AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > On 11/14/23 8:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wro

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread John Baldwin
On 11/14/23 8:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: We are stil

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
Well, today is your yesterday, so we might not be ready for another more tomorrows your time, yesterdays, my time. Or something. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 2:39 AM, matti k wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 04:52:31 + > Glen Barber

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread matti k
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 04:52:31 + Glen Barber wrote: > > > Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are > > > never official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email > > > is intended for the general public of consumers of official > > > releases, not "yeah, but"s. >

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > We are still waiting for a few (non-c

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread The Doctor
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before > > > the announcement of 14.0-RE

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before > > the announcement of 14.0-RELEASE will be ready. > > > > It should only be another day or so bef

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread The Doctor
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before > the announcement of 14.0-RELEASE will be ready. > > It should only be another day or so before these things complete. > > Thank you for your understanding. > I

Re: Heads up: s/u_intXX_t/uintXX_t/ in sys/cam

2023-07-24 Thread Warner Losh
I have just pushed this update into -current. It compiles and boots for me. It should be a giant nop. I plan on MFCing this in a few days unless there's unanticipated turbulence. I have not updated the SIM drivers because most of the u_intXX_t use in these drivers are not related to CAM interfaces

Re: HEADS-UP: PIE enabled by default on stable/13

2022-01-30 Thread Marcin Wojtas
Hi, pon., 24 sty 2022 o 20:48 Marek Zarychta napisał(a): > > Hello Marcin > W dniu 24.01.2022 o 19:43, Marcin Wojtas pisze: > > Hi Marek, > > > > pon., 24 sty 2022 o 08:17 Marek Zarychta > > napisał(a): > >> > >> W dniu 24.01.2022 o 07:42, Marcin Wojtas pisze: > >>> +freebsd-stable@ > >>> > >>>

Re: HEADS-UP: PIE enabled by default on stable/13

2022-01-24 Thread Marek Zarychta
Hello Marcin W dniu 24.01.2022 o 19:43, Marcin Wojtas pisze: Hi Marek, pon., 24 sty 2022 o 08:17 Marek Zarychta napisał(a): W dniu 24.01.2022 o 07:42, Marcin Wojtas pisze: +freebsd-stable@ niedz., 23 sty 2022 o 11:36 Marcin Wojtas napisał(a): Hi, As of 396e9f259d962 the base system bina

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