On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:12:21 -0800
Mark Millard wrote:
> On Nov 9, 2022, at 12:56, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 1:54 PM Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> >
> > > Am 09.11.2022 um 21:51 schrieb Warner Losh :
> > > Yes. For safety, boot loader upgrade is mandatory when you do a zpool
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 23:04:17 +0100
"Patrick M. Hausen" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Am 09.11.2022 um 22:59 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
> > :
> > Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
> > 22:47:28 +0100):
> >>
> >> I apologize, should have included that in the last mail.
> >> This is a curre
On Nov 9, 2022, at 12:56, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 1:54 PM Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
>
> > Am 09.11.2022 um 21:51 schrieb Warner Losh :
> > Yes. For safety, boot loader upgrade is mandatory when you do a zpool
> > upgrade of the root filesystem.
> > It was definitely needed i
Hi,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 22:59 schrieb Alexander Leidinger :
> Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 22:47:28
> +0100):
>>
>> I apologize, should have included that in the last mail.
>> This is a current FreeBSD 13.1-p2 hosting system we run.
>> [ List of features from an active root
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
22:47:28 +0100):
Hi,
Am 09.11.2022 um 22:38 schrieb Patrick M. Hausen :
Am 09.11.2022 um 22:26 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
:
On quick look I haven't found a place where a compatibility
setting is used for the rpool during the creation,
Hi,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 22:38 schrieb Patrick M. Hausen :
>> Am 09.11.2022 um 22:26 schrieb Alexander Leidinger :
>> On quick look I haven't found a place where a compatibility setting is used
>> for the rpool during the creation, so I can't point out what the exact
>> difference is.
>> Given tha
Hi,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 22:26 schrieb Alexander Leidinger :
> On quick look I haven't found a place where a compatibility setting is used
> for the rpool during the creation, so I can't point out what the exact
> difference is.
> Given that empty_bpobj is not in the list of the boot code, it can'
Quoting Brooks Davis (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
21:18:41 +):
On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 09:19:47PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
Quoting Mark Millard (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
12:10:18 -0800):
> On Nov 9, 2022, at 11:58, Alexander Leidinger
> wrote:
>
>> Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
22:11:29 +0100):
Hi,
Am 09.11.2022 um 22:05 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
:
Attention, "upgrade" is overloaded here. "OS upgrade" will not
render the pool unbootable (modulo bugs), but "zpool upgrade rpool"
will (except we have provisions
On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 09:19:47PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Mark Millard (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
> 12:10:18 -0800):
>
> > On Nov 9, 2022, at 11:58, Alexander Leidinger
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
> >> 20:49:37 +0100):
> >>
> >>> H
Quoting Warner Losh (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:53:59 -0700):
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 12:47 PM Alexander Leidinger
wrote:
Quoting Warner Losh (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 08:54:33 -0700):
as well. I'd settle for a good script that could be run as root (better
would be not as root) that
Hi,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 22:05 schrieb Alexander Leidinger :
> Attention, "upgrade" is overloaded here. "OS upgrade" will not render the
> pool unbootable (modulo bugs), but "zpool upgrade rpool" will (except we have
> provisions that zpool upgrade doesn't enable all features in case the bootfs
>
Quoting Warner Losh (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:56:43 -0700):
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 1:54 PM Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
Hi Warner,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 21:51 schrieb Warner Losh :
> Yes. For safety, boot loader upgrade is mandatory when you do a zpool
upgrade of the root filesystem.
> It was defin
Hi,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 21:56 schrieb Warner Losh
>
> If all you do is upgrade, then no, modulo bugs that we've thankfully not had
> yet. It's when you enable something on the zpool that you can run into
> trouble, but that's true independent of upgrade :)
Thanks. That lets me sleep way better
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 1:54 PM Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> Hi Warner,
>
> > Am 09.11.2022 um 21:51 schrieb Warner Losh :
> > Yes. For safety, boot loader upgrade is mandatory when you do a zpool
> upgrade of the root filesystem.
> > It was definitely needed in the OpenZFS jump, and we've had one o
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 12:47 PM Alexander Leidinger
wrote:
> Quoting Warner Losh (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 08:54:33
> -0700):
>
> > as well. I'd settle for a good script that could be run as root (better
> > would be not as root) that would take a filesystem that was created
> > by makefs -t zfs and
Hi Warner,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 21:51 schrieb Warner Losh :
> Yes. For safety, boot loader upgrade is mandatory when you do a zpool upgrade
> of the root filesystem.
> It was definitely needed in the OpenZFS jump, and we've had one or two other
> flag days since.
That's a given and not a problem.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 12:02 PM Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> > Am 09.11.2022 um 16:54 schrieb Warner Losh :
> > >>There is a fixed list of features we support in the boot loader:
> > >>[...]
> > >>Any feature not on this list will cause the boot loader to
> > >> reject the p
Hi,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 21:31 schrieb Alexander Leidinger :
> Some features are used directly when enabled. Some features go back to the
> enabled state when some conditions are met. Some features are not reversible
> without re-creating the pool (e.g. device_removal). The zzpool-features
> man-
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
21:19:23 +0100):
Hi,
Am 09.11.2022 um 21:15 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
:
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
21:02:52 +0100):
Yet, I made it a habit to whenever I see this message:
---
status: Some supported feat
Quoting Mark Millard (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
12:10:18 -0800):
On Nov 9, 2022, at 11:58, Alexander Leidinger
wrote:
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
20:49:37 +0100):
Hi,
Am 09.11.2022 um 20:45 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
:
But "zpool set feature@edonr=enabled rpool"
Hi,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 21:15 schrieb Alexander Leidinger :
> Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:02:52
> +0100):
>> Yet, I made it a habit to whenever I see this message:
>>
>> ---
>> status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool can
>> stil
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
21:02:52 +0100):
Hi,
Am 09.11.2022 um 20:58 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
:
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
20:49:37 +0100):
Hi,
Am 09.11.2022 um 20:45 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
:
But "zpool set feature@edonr=en
On Nov 9, 2022, at 11:58, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 20:49:37
> +0100):
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Am 09.11.2022 um 20:45 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
>>> :
>>> But "zpool set feature@edonr=enabled rpool" (or any other feature not in
>>> the list we t
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
20:49:37 +0100):
Hi,
Am 09.11.2022 um 20:45 schrieb Alexander Leidinger
:
But "zpool set feature@edonr=enabled rpool" (or any other feature
not in the list we talk about) would render it unbootable.
Sorry, just to be sure. So an active
On Nov 9, 2022, at 11:02, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
>
>> Am 09.11.2022 um 16:54 schrieb Warner Losh :
There is a fixed list of features we support in the boot loader:
[...]
Any feature not on this list will cause the boot loader to
reject the pool.
>
> I admit that I
Hi,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 20:45 schrieb Alexander Leidinger :
> But "zpool set feature@edonr=enabled rpool" (or any other feature not in the
> list we talk about) would render it unbootable.
Sorry, just to be sure. So an active change of e.g. checksum or compression
algorithm
might render the syst
Quoting Warner Losh (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 08:54:33 -0700):
as well. I'd settle for a good script that could be run as root (better
would be not as root) that would take a filesystem that was created
by makefs -t zfs and turn on these features after an zpool upgrade.
I have the vague outlines of
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022
20:02:55 +0100):
Hi all,
Am 09.11.2022 um 16:54 schrieb Warner Losh :
>>There is a fixed list of features we support in the boot loader:
>>[...]
>>Any feature not on this list will cause the boot loader to
>> reject the pool.
I
Quoting Warner Losh (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022 08:54:33 -0700):
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 5:46 AM Alexander Leidinger
wrote:
Quoting Alexander Leidinger (from Tue, 08
Nov 2022 10:50:53 +0100):
> Should the above list be sorted in some way? Maybe in the same order
> as the zpool-features lists th
Hi all,
> Am 09.11.2022 um 16:54 schrieb Warner Losh :
> >>There is a fixed list of features we support in the boot loader:
> >>[...]
> >>Any feature not on this list will cause the boot loader to
> >> reject the pool.
I admit that I do not grasp the full implications of this threa
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 5:46 AM Alexander Leidinger
wrote:
> Quoting Alexander Leidinger (from Tue, 08
> Nov 2022 10:50:53 +0100):
>
> > Quoting Warner Losh (from Mon, 7 Nov 2022 14:23:11
> -0700):
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:15 AM Alexander Leidinger
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
Quoting Alexander Leidinger (from Tue, 08
Nov 2022 10:50:53 +0100):
Quoting Warner Losh (from Mon, 7 Nov 2022 14:23:11 -0700):
On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:15 AM Alexander Leidinger
wrote:
Quoting Li-Wen Hsu (from Mon, 7 Nov 2022 03:39:19 GMT):
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