On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:12:21 -0800
Mark Millard <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Nov 9, 2022, at 12:56, Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 1:54 PM Patrick M. Hausen <p...@hausen.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Am 09.11.2022 um 21:51 schrieb Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com>:
> > > Yes. For safety, boot loader upgrade is mandatory when you do a zpool 
> > > upgrade of the root filesystem.
> > > It was definitely needed in the OpenZFS jump, and we've had one or two 
> > > other flag days since.
> > 
> > That's a given and not a problem. What I fear from my understanding of this 
> > thread so far is
> > that there might be a situation when I upgrade the zpool and the boot 
> > loader and the system
> > ends up unbootable nonetheless.
> > 
> > Possible or not?
> > 
> > If all you do is upgrade, then no, modulo bugs that we've thankfully not 
> > had yet.
> 
> I guess you mean FreeBSD upgrade, not zpool updgrade?
> 
> For zpool upgrade after a main [so: 14] FreeBSD upgrade . . .
> 
> As I understand it, com.delphix:head_errlog was not added to
> the loader until after some folks had done a zpool upgrade
> and then could not boot. The loader was updated in response
> to the people's problem with trying to boot.
> 
> Of course, this was main, not stable or releng/13.* or the
> like. There is more control over the staging of updates
> for them.

Unfortunately, sometimes adding X-MFC-WITH is forgotton on follow-up
commits, making the commit NOT MFC'ed to stable/* and fire there again.

And unfortunately, even though X-MFC-WITH is added, sometimes MFC is
missed.


> It would be nice if UPDATING reported when a openzfs update
> was adding new zpool feature(s) to main and if the loader
> was ready for them yet. If not: Later adding an entry for
> the loader being ready for the feature(s).

+1.


> > It's when you enable something on the zpool that you can run into trouble, 
> > but that's true independent of upgrade :)
> > 
> > Warner
> >   Modulo bugs, try test systems first, etc. Of course.
> > 
> 
> ===
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 


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Tomoaki AOKI    <junch...@dec.sakura.ne.jp>

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