Re: Weird differences in rc5 behavior on -current vs. -stable

1999-08-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:11:33 MST, Doug wrote: > I have a 3.2-Stable and a 4.0-Current system at home, both > running rc5des. On both systems I set the priority in the rc5 options > menu to '0', indicating lowest possible priority. On the -Stable > system it's running at nice level '0', b

Re: REQ: Test /etc/rc clean-up

1999-08-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:59:38 MST, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/etc.diffs.fix-it-right > > Which I've sent to Sheldon for review but haven't heard anything > back from him yet. Universal Week-end Time. :-P Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Softupdates reliability?

1999-08-22 Thread Stephen McKay
I had a recent crash on my home box that makes me question the reliablity of softupdates. My home box runs 3.2-R, but as far as I can determine, there have been no reliablity fixes to softupdates since then. So a failure here should be relevant to -current. Hardware: K6-2/300, 64MB ECC SDRAM, F

Re: problem with the ata driver

1999-08-22 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Nicolas Souchu wrote: > acd0: CDROM drive at ata0 as master > acd0: drive speed 0KB/sec > acd0: supported read types: > acd0: Mechanism: caddy > acd0: Medium: CD-ROM unknown medium > > Any clue? > > The drive was running flawlessly with the old wdc driver and with various > primary rel

Re: REQ: Test /etc/rc clean-up

1999-08-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:59:05 MST, Doug wrote: > However I'd REALLY like to emphasize again that if we're going to do > this the proper fix is to use case wherever possible. > > I have offered several times to do the work if it has a chance of > being committed, that offer is still good. Hi Dou

Re: Downgrade ????

1999-08-22 Thread Glenn Johnson
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 02:49:49PM -0700, william woods wrote: > OK, this is kinda a crazy questions, but..what the hell > ...snip... > How possible is it to cvsup stable ( I would blow away /uusr/src > first) and then do a make world and have a 3.2-stable system or should > I just re-insta

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: > > > > > According to Narvi: > > > > "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" > > > > > > Pill :) > > > > > > That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie > >

Re: gdb-4.17 in FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT

1999-08-22 Thread Daniel Eischen
Richard Cownie wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > > Are you saying 4.17 is better than 4.18 for debugging C++? Or are you > > saying you didn't know FreeBSD comes with gdb: > > gdb-4.18 is badly broken on all platforms (at least for C++). You can't > call methods from the gdb c

Re: Patches available (was Re: NFS HEADS UP)

1999-08-22 Thread Rob Snow
Anyways, I have to agree with you on the protocol issue. I cannot even get mounts to work reliably between the Linux boxes, they seem to get confused. Basically, looks like recent Linux NFS Server is broken, therefore, I'm guessing that the error I saw was on that side of the house. FYI, my Bon

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: > > > According to Narvi: > > > "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" > > > > Pill :) > > > > That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie > > again. A. I love it. > > Yeah, it's gotta be the perfect hacke

Re: Patches available (was Re: NFS HEADS UP)

1999-08-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
:linux> cp multipatch-1.diff test1 :fbsd> cat test1 :cat: test1: RPC struct is bad :fbsd> cp test1 /tmp :fbsd> cat test1 : :+ (vp->v_object->flags & OBJ_MIGHTBEDIRTY)) { : :^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ :^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@

Re: help

1999-08-22 Thread Mike Muir
Tattr wrote: > > Hi > i wonder if you can help me please? > my friend has just bought a cam for his pc > its a webstar and we are having a problem > we have loaded the cd and the cam wont work cos it keeps saying video > capture devise missing > i have the same cam as he and instakked it the same

Re: Patches available (was Re: NFS HEADS UP)

1999-08-22 Thread Rob Snow
linux> cp multipatch-1.diff test1 fbsd> cat test1 cat: test1: RPC struct is bad fbsd> cp test1 /tmp fbsd> cat test1 + (vp->v_object->flags & OBJ_MIGHTBEDIRTY)) { ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@

Re: Panic with NFSv3 on a CURRENT/SMP system

1999-08-22 Thread David Malone
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 10:24:33PM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: > That's what I'm thinking but compiling NFS into the kernel "fixed" my > panic. The weird part is that I'm still using INVARIANT. I don't see why the > condition is not met when compiling all these together and is when using the > k

Re: libalias or libnat. Vote ?

1999-08-22 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> As of a few days ago, ppp(8) supports the -nat flag (as well as > the -alias flag for backwards compatibility), however, it's not > clear that we really want to go the whole hog and change the > library name & interface too. I've been on both sides of this issue, to be sure, but I have to sa

libalias or libnat. Vote ?

1999-08-22 Thread Brian Somers
This topic was discussed last January - should libalias be renamed to libnat ? As of a few days ago, ppp(8) supports the -nat flag (as well as the -alias flag for backwards compatibility), however, it's not clear that we really want to go the whole hog and change the library name & interface

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Narvi wrote: > If we wanted to be legally paranoid we would call it the "letter" saver > and add as the comment the words > > "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" Red pills, rather? -- - bill fumerola - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - BF1560 - computer horizons c

Re: Patches available (was Re: NFS HEADS UP)

1999-08-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
: fbsd> cat /test1 local1 Oops. I obviously meant to redirect the output for the cat's: fbsd> cat /test1 > local1 .. etc... -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-curren

Re: Patches available (was Re: NFS HEADS UP)

1999-08-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
:When copying over (FreeBSD client) the multipatch from a Linux (2.2.11) :box before the patch I got this garbage in the file, -current as of 4am :this morning. gzip'ed version has bad crc's. Went the other way and it :worked fine (Linux client), this is v2 via amd. : :... :Update: after reboot

help

1999-08-22 Thread Tattr
Hi i wonder if you can help me please? my friend has just bought a cam for his pc its a webstar and we are having a problem we have loaded the cd and the cam wont work cos it keeps saying video capture devise missing i have the same cam as he and instakked it the same way i went into my control pa

Re: Patches available (was Re: NFS HEADS UP)

1999-08-22 Thread Rob Snow
When copying over (FreeBSD client) the multipatch from a Linux (2.2.11) box before the patch I got this garbage in the file, -current as of 4am this morning. gzip'ed version has bad crc's. Went the other way and it worked fine (Linux client), this is v2 via amd. /etc/amd.conf: ** /d

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Sebastian Soenksen
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 11:46:14PM +0200, Nick Hibma wrote: > > Tell them there will be a reference to the movie web site or something. ;-) > Or tell them that the URL to the website appears once in a while in the > mishmash, sublimal advertisements. Just make sure you speak to the > marketing dro

PicoBSD major update

1999-08-22 Thread Doug White
Hello, I'm committing an update of the PicoBSD code tree that should allow it to build on -STABLE and take advantage of loader's new features. Luigi Rizzo did the majority of the work, I debugged. I have use of this code thus why I'm sponsoring this commit. Significant changes include: . No

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Nick Hibma
> > Maybe we *should* go approach the producers? I have gone to that movie > > several times, and I keep on enjoying it, so this is GOOD PR for them. > > Tell them there will be a reference to the movie web site or something. ;-) Or tell them that the URL to the website appears once in a while

Downgrade ????

1999-08-22 Thread william woods
OK, this is kinda a crazy questions, but..what the hell We have a production machiene that runs our internal mail server that I just inherited sysadmin'ing (the other guy quit). The problem is that it is currently running 4.0-current. I like current, I run it on my test system at home, but I

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Nick Hibma
> This is just my opinion though, and not to be used as legal advice for > anyone. I just don't want FreeBSD to become a ball of intellectual property > infringements. :) And to be honest, you are arguing well. It's also fairly easy to implement a patchset for this and keep the source separate,

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Peter Wemm
Chuck Robey wrote: > On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: > > > According to Narvi: > > > "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" > > > > Pill :) > > > > That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie > > again. A. I love it. > > Yeah, it's gotta b

Re: Docs blows up make release

1999-08-22 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> For the immediate future, it looks like it will -- it seems as though > we don't have the man power to make the necessary changes to sysinstall > to support "installing the docs as packages", so I'm going to fix up > src/release/Makefile as necessary to cope with the new directory structure. I

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Narvi: > > "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" > > Pill :) > > That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie > again. A. I love it. Yeah, it's gotta be the perfect hacker's movie. Maybe we

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Narvi: > "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" Pill :) That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie again. A. I love it. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #7

Re: Panic with NFSv3 on a CURRENT/SMP system

1999-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Greg Lehey: > In all likelihood, these options didn't "cause" the panic, they just > made another bug more visible. That's what they're there for. That's what I'm thinking but compiling NFS into the kernel "fixed" my panic. The weird part is that I'm still using INVARIANT. I don't s

problem with the ata driver

1999-08-22 Thread Nicolas Souchu
Hi there, hi Soren, First of all, the dump. Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0302000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug Probing for PnP devices: npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 pcib0: on motherb

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :>So what do we do when we halt or reboot ? : :We unmount the file system. dounmount() calls VFS_SYNC() with the :MNT_WAIT flag, and then (for ffs) ffs_unmount() calls ffs_flushfiles() :or softdep_flushfiles(). I'm not sure why the latter is necessary. : :I don't understand this problem. syn

Re: gcc back?

1999-08-22 Thread Peter Wemm
Chris Piazza wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 03:07:44PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > I'm just wondering but I noticed when I cvsupped a few minutes ago that > > > > gcc is back in the source tree. I was wondering if there were plans to > > > > keep gcc in the source now. > > > > >

Re: gcc back?

1999-08-22 Thread Chris Piazza
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 03:07:44PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > I'm just wondering but I noticed when I cvsupped a few minutes ago that > > > gcc is back in the source tree. I was wondering if there were plans to > > > keep gcc in the source now. > > > > If you are tracking -current,

Re: gdb-4.17 in FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT

1999-08-22 Thread Richard Cownie
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > Are you saying 4.17 is better than 4.18 for debugging C++? Or are you > saying you didn't know FreeBSD comes with gdb: gdb-4.18 is badly broken on all platforms (at least for C++). You can't call methods from the gdb command line, and also it frequent

Re: Docs blows up make release

1999-08-22 Thread Nik Clayton
[ cc'd to -current ] On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400, jack wrote: > > Will support for building release docs in English only be > revived? > For the immediate future, it looks like it will -- it seems as though we don't have the man power to make the necessary changes to sysinstall to

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Bruce Evans
>So what do we do when we halt or reboot ? We unmount the file system. dounmount() calls VFS_SYNC() with the MNT_WAIT flag, and then (for ffs) ffs_unmount() calls ffs_flushfiles() or softdep_flushfiles(). I'm not sure why the latter is necessary. I don't understand this problem. sync() intent

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Julian Elischer
yes and no. the sync wheel indicates buffers to wrrite in an order that will probably ensure that early dependencies are satisfied before later ones, however even after being written, a buffer might have remaining unsatisfied dependencies that required that teh on disk and in momory version sstil

Re: gcc back?

1999-08-22 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
> > I'm just wondering but I noticed when I cvsupped a few minutes ago that > > gcc is back in the source tree. I was wondering if there were plans to > > keep gcc in the source now. > > If you are tracking -current, you should be reading the commit messages. > > egcs has become gcc. I must ha

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > I do not know if it is bug or feature, but it seems that sync(8) command > doesn't really flushing write buffers for softdep enabled f/s. IMHO this > behavior is not very friendly for the notebooks and ATX owners because > before putting computer into

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
So what do we do when we halt or reboot ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :But the buffer to buffer dependencies are already recorded in the :sequence on the "sync-wheel" which the syncer daemon runs through, :isn't it ? : :-- :Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member :[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." Only

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes: >:>structures used internally by softupdates are not condusive to doing a >:>hard-sync. >: >:I gues sync needs to set a flag which makes the sync'er go through all >:buckets with no delay and then wake the sync'ing process afterwards..

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
:>structures used internally by softupdates are not condusive to doing a :>hard-sync. : :I gues sync needs to set a flag which makes the sync'er go through all :buckets with no delay and then wake the sync'ing process afterwards... : :-- :Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam memb

Re: gcc back?

1999-08-22 Thread Mike Smith
> I'm just wondering but I noticed when I cvsupped a few minutes ago that > gcc is back in the source tree. I was wondering if there were plans to > keep gcc in the source now. If you are tracking -current, you should be reading the commit messages. egcs has become gcc. -- \\ The mind's the

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes: > >It's a bug, one that I've brought up with Kirk. The problem is that the >structures used internally by softupdates are not condusive to doing a >hard-sync. I gues sync needs to set a flag which makes the sync'er go through all

gcc back?

1999-08-22 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
I'm just wondering but I noticed when I cvsupped a few minutes ago that gcc is back in the source tree. I was wondering if there were plans to keep gcc in the source now. Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the messag

Re: Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I do not know if it is bug or feature, but it seems that sync(8) command :doesn't really flushing write buffers for softdep enabled f/s. IMHO this :behavior is not very friendly for the notebooks and ATX owners because :before putting computer into sleep mode OS preferably should try to :write as

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > >On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a legal war, > > but this > > > > screensaver is more than likely a copyright and/

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Kevin Day
At 06:44 PM 8/22/99 +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: >On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > >[trademark violation warning] > >Ok, maybe you have a point - I dont know, I'm not a lawyer. But with this >line of reasoning they could claim that anything using falling letters >effect on your screen par

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: [trademark violation warning] Ok, maybe you have a point - I dont know, I'm not a lawyer. But with this line of reasoning they could claim that anything using falling letters effect on your screen partly violates they trademarked special effect, which is sil

Re: apm problems.

1999-08-22 Thread Kelvin Farmer
Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: > Ah, If you want to reject the standby request from BIOS while the > system is active, then apmd would be useful. You can configure it like > this: > in /etc/apmd.conf: > apm_event PMEV_STANDBYREQ { > reject; Thanks. > I guess your disks are still in a SLEEP aft

Re: NFS HEADS UP (was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/nfs nfsm_subs.hxdr_subs.h)

1999-08-22 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :> Well, the issue with converting many of the macros to inline functions > :> is with the embedded goto's and references to variables defined outside > :> the macros. Converting them to functions would basically require > :> rewriti

Re: HEADS UP: at_shutdown going away

1999-08-22 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: > > : Seriously though, I'm in the process of replacing a number of the > > : ad-hoc event handler callout lists in the kernel (most notably the > > : at_shutdown and apm* lists) with a generic implemen

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Kevin Day
>On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > > > > > I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a legal war, > but this > > > screensaver is more than likely a copyright and/or trademark > violation, and > > > bringing it into the

Re: problem with vnconfig -s labels ...

1999-08-22 Thread Luigi Rizzo
About the vnconfig/disklabel problem, i don't understand one thing: the sequence that causes the reboot is the same used to produce the boot floppy images. How comes that it is still possible to produce snapshots for -current ? Are they cross-built on an older version of the system ? che

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > > I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a legal war, but this > > screensaver is more than likely a copyright and/or trademark violation, and > > bringing it into the source tree may

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > A> Anyway, this module was meant more as a joke, but if you guys like it so > > > much you could vote for putting it in the tree... > > > >What do you mean "vote"? I was waiting for it to show up on my tree > >after a cvsup! > > I hate to keep bringing thi

Sync(8) doesn't have any effect on softupdates-enabled filesystem

1999-08-22 Thread Maxim Sobolev
I do not know if it is bug or feature, but it seems that sync(8) command doesn't really flushing write buffers for softdep enabled f/s. IMHO this behavior is not very friendly for the notebooks and ATX owners because before putting computer into sleep mode OS preferably should try to write as many

Re: Panic with NFSv3 on a CURRENT/SMP system

1999-08-22 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 21 August 1999 at 22:30:54 -0400, Luoqi Chen wrote: >> I'm generating a core dump. Please note that as tara is my test machine, I use >> "INVARIANT" & "INVARIANT_SUPPORT". Should I remove them ? >> >> It seems that from my reading of the code, the panic would not had happened >> witho

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Nick Hibma
> > Anyway, this module was meant more as a joke, but if you guys like it so > > much you could vote for putting it in the tree... > > It's extremely small, so why not? Got my vote. :-) Yes, you have my 7 votes as well (my department thinks it is cool as well. Or at least that is what I think t

Re: problem with vnconfig -s labels ...

1999-08-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bruce Evans writes: > >>Hmmm, I know this is your code, but are you sure? 8-). My understanding of > >>dkmodslice() and friends is that they manipulate dev_t entries, but don't > >>actually initialise them. Since th