Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:37:17 + (UTC) Apostolic Seeker via freebsd-advocacy wrote: > Last year, during my transition away from Windows, having heard > recommendations for both FreeBSD and Linux, I found myselfblocked > from many Twitter accounts. After some research and asking around, it

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Apostolic Seeker via freebsd-advocacy
Last year, during my transition away from Windows, having heard recommendations for both FreeBSD and Linux, I found myselfblocked from many Twitter accounts. After some research and asking around, it turned out I was on a blacklist simply for interacting with "wrong people" on Twitter. This lead

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Poppy Faria
If having a code of conduct means that all of this nonsense will stop, then I'm in favor. However, I disagree with the idea of there being a code of conduct based on any political ideologies instead of an agreed upon fabric of moral and ethical decency. But seriously guys, please stop. I'm tire

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Stephen Perry
Very reasonable actually. If I keep getting this kind of crap from this mailing list I'm going to withdraw from it and cease any personal advocacy for FreeBSD going forward through social media and professional contacts. On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Poppy Faria wrote: If having a code of con

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Johannes Jost Meixner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/16/2015 23:29, Randi Harper wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav > wrote: > > Johannes Jost Meixner > writes: >> I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Randi Harper
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Johannes Jost Meixner writes: > > I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated > > against, > > There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of > those are women. How the *hell* can you clai

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Tony Theodore
> On 17 Jul 2015, at 02:38, Johannes Jost Meixner wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > As requested, an imgur album of the tweets in question, because no one > seems to be able to read the original attachments of Randi Harper's > "celebrating" the release of the Code

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Johannes Jost Meixner
if I were to post that, I would have generated a huge shitstorm in doing that. But then, equality exists only in parts, and some animals are more equal than others. - Forwarded Message ---- Subject: Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct... Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 08:53:38 -0500 (CDT)

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Chad J. Milios
I think you created detached signatures by mistake. Against all my better judgement, I’m curious to see the .png’s and somehow I’m sure I’m not the only one. You’ll no doubt forgive me for failing to more closely follow this drama. > On Jul 15, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Johannes Jost Meixner > wrote:

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Chris Benesch
This is a tough thing to be in the middle of, but lets look at the facts. I moderated a forum for years, and it had no clearly defined goal like this community, so it was nothing but people poking sticks at each other and/or local government. 1 . Randi basically called Johannes a "whiny littl

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Edelwin Khaelos
There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated against when you are part of a 99% majority? So you are saying that one person can't complain against other person actions/behaviour strictly because it is part

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Marin Bernard
This is a highly subjective point of view. People are responsible for what they release publicly. Many people, men and women, feminist or not, disagree with this kind of communication. As a male, feminist, pro -LGBT individual, I do. And I really do understand Johannes' position. A Code of conduct

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On 16-07-2015 13:14, Big Lebowski wrote: Johannes Jost Meixner writes: I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated against, There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated against wh

Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Big Lebowski
> > Johannes Jost Meixner writes: > > I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated > > against, > > There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of > those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated > against when you are part of a 99% m

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Johannes Jost Meixner
If the Code of Conduct does not protect me as an individual against the discriminations of another individual, whatever their sex, gender, political orientation, sexual preference, it is not worth the paper it is written on. My own sex, gender, political orientation, sexual preference is compl

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Johannes Jost Meixner writes: > I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated > against, There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated against when you are part of a 99% majority? > I s

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-15 Thread Edelwin Khaelos
Hello Johannes, The concept of quote "male tears" unquote makes fun of people identifying (and recognized as) males in the society who complain about being oppressed (in a patriarchal society). This is of course a highly ironical term. You can read more at http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/

Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-15 Thread Johannes Jost Meixner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dear all, I actually like our new code of conduct. It protects my rights as a human being, and it gives me safety in knowing that they will be respected by my fellow FreeBSD developers. However... The code of conduct explicitly states that discrim