On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, Florian Klämpfl via fpc-pascal wrote:
By using the necessary IFDEF mechanism in the config file, we can avoid
inserting it for windows (which does not need it) or the smaller embedded
platforms
(which cannot handle it).
People that don't need/want this can remove the conf
> Am 09.03.2021 um 10:06 schrieb Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal
> :
>
>
>
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal wrote:
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>>> On 09/03/2021 1:44 am, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:
>>> UnicodeString may be used in a program simply because the included unit has
>>> i
On 2021-03-09 09:46, Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal wrote:
On 09/03/2021 1:44 am, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:
UnicodeString may be used in a program simply because the included
unit
has it used in its interface. That may be the case even if there's no
use of characters outside of US ASC
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, Mattias Gaertner via fpc-pascal wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:04:54 +0100
Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
[...]
FPC is not Java. In FPC you have more fine-grained control over the
resulting binary than "install big, fat runtime". Not to mention that
FPC can target resour
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal wrote:
On 09/03/2021 1:44 am, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:
UnicodeString may be used in a program simply because the included unit
has it used in its interface. That may be the case even if there's no
use of characters outside of US A
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:04:54 +0100
Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
>[...]
> FPC is not Java. In FPC you have more fine-grained control over the
> resulting binary than "install big, fat runtime". Not to mention that
> FPC can target resource constrained systems as well.
Optional is good.
Maybe
On 09/03/2021 1:44 am, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:
> UnicodeString may be used in a program simply because the included unit
> has it used in its interface. That may be the case even if there's no
> use of characters outside of US ASCII at all.
So FPC rather goes with the fact that data ma
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal wrote:
On 08/03/2021 2:49 pm, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
In that sense, unicode conversion support is something optional and so we
require you to enable it explicitly, since enabling it has some drawbacks:
Surely if you ex
Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal schrieb
am Di., 9. März 2021, 00:56:
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> On 07/03/2021 5:48 pm, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal wrote:
> > It depends on what you mean by "just working".
>
> No, "just worked" is exactly what it says on the tin. It is FPC that
> overcomplicating matters.
>
>
> As a
On 3/9/21 2:18 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal wrote:
On 08/03/2021 7:49 pm, Jonas Maebe via fpc-pascal wrote:
It's not possible to safely use unicodestring without
knowing how 16bit unicode works. The compiler can't solve that.
I disagree. Java does just that! The issue is the assumption
On 2021-03-09 01:01, Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal wrote:
On 08/03/2021 2:49 pm, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
In that sense, unicode conversion support is something optional and so
we
require you to enable it explicitly, since enabling it has some
drawbacks:
Surely if you expl
On 08/03/2021 23:26, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:
On 2021-03-08 21:36, Martin Frb via fpc-pascal wrote:
I can think of 2 groups already.
1) Conversion due to explicit declared different encoding.
AnAnsiString := SomeWideString;
AnAsciiString := AnUtf8String; // declared as "type
Ansi
On 08/03/2021 7:49 pm, Jonas Maebe via fpc-pascal wrote:
> It's not possible to safely use unicodestring without
> knowing how 16bit unicode works. The compiler can't solve that.
I disagree. Java does just that! The issue is the assumption of using
array indexing into the a string. I guess develo
On 08/03/2021 2:49 pm, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
> In that sense, unicode conversion support is something optional and so we
> require you to enable it explicitly, since enabling it has some drawbacks:
Surely if you explicitly use the UnicodeString type, the compiler should
know
On 07/03/2021 5:48 pm, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal wrote:
> It depends on what you mean by "just working".
No, "just worked" is exactly what it says on the tin. It is FPC that
overcomplicating matters.
As an example, here is Java that also uses UTF-16 encoding, just like
FPC's UnicodeString
On 2021-03-08 21:36, Martin Frb via fpc-pascal wrote:
.
.
In the example the index access should have returned a single
codeunit, which was known to be a complete codepoint.
As far as I understand the unexpected part was, that the unicode
string did not contain the content of the string constan
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, Martin Frb via fpc-pascal wrote:
Obviously knowing the presence/absence of a widestring manager allows to
refine warnings.
It does not.
The compiler has no way to know if the widestring manager actually does a
complete or even a good job. Maybe it just does logging and c
On 08/03/2021 20:49, Jonas Maebe via fpc-pascal wrote:
On 08/03/2021 19:16, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote:
I agree it would be nice to have some warning that indexing the unicodeString
wouldn't work as expected.
Then the compiler would have to give a warning for any indexing of
unicodestrin
On 08/03/2021 19:16, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote:
> I agree it would be nice to have some warning that indexing the unicodeString
> wouldn't work as expected.
Then the compiler would have to give a warning for any indexing of
unicodestring. That would render it useless, because everyone woul
So I was indeed able to solve the problem using {$codepage utf8} and using the
CWString unit. Does this do anything besides change the backend of the
UnicodeString/UnicodeChar type? I using other string types in that unit and I'm
curious if I've put some kind of performance burden on the other
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:
On 2021-03-08 15:49, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, Adriaan van Os via fpc-pascal wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
You didn't configure your environment to deal correctly with Unicode.
Wo
On 2021-03-08 15:49, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, Adriaan van Os via fpc-pascal wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
You didn't configure your environment to deal correctly with Unicode.
Wow ! what a sentence !
That sounds like "you didn't config
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, Adriaan van Os via fpc-pascal wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
You didn't configure your environment to deal correctly with Unicode.
Wow ! what a sentence !
That sounds like "you didn't configure your car correctly to also take
corners to the right."
Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
You didn't configure your environment to deal correctly with Unicode.
Wow ! what a sentence !
That sounds like "you didn't configure your car correctly to also take corners to
the right."
But alas, be it so.
Regards,
Adriaan van Os
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, Adriaan van Os via fpc-pascal wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
The output for me is the same, regardless of the -FcUTF-8 flag being
present
or not: question marks.
But if I add
uses cwstring;
all will be well.
Rationale:
Without that, the RTL cannot convert whateve
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
The output for me is the same, regardless of the -FcUTF-8 flag being
present
or not: question marks.
But if I add
uses cwstring;
all will be well.
Rationale:
Without that, the RTL cannot convert whatever the compiler wrote in
the binary to UTF8 to display it on t
On 2021-03-08 11:59, Adriaan van Os via fpc-pascal wrote:
Hi,
adriaan% cat uniquizz-utf8.pas
{$codepage utf8}
program uniquizz;
var
chars: UnicodeString;
begin
chars := '⌘ key';
writeln(chars);
writeln(chars[1]);
writeln( 'size ', sizeOf( chars));
writeln( 'length ', length( char
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, Adriaan van Os via fpc-pascal wrote:
adriaan% cat uniquizz-utf8.pas
{$codepage utf8}
program uniquizz;
var
chars: UnicodeString;
begin
chars := '⌘ key';
writeln(chars);
writeln(chars[1]);
writeln( 'size ', sizeOf( chars));
writeln( 'length ', length( chars));
adriaan% cat uniquizz-utf8.pas
{$codepage utf8}
program uniquizz;
var
chars: UnicodeString;
begin
chars := '⌘ key';
writeln(chars);
writeln(chars[1]);
writeln( 'size ', sizeOf( chars));
writeln( 'length ', length( chars));
end.
adriaan% fpc uniquizz-utf8.pas -FcUTF-8
Free Pascal Com
Op 2021-03-07 om 22:26 schreef Bart via fpc-pascal:
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 5:31 PM Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
wrote:
Probably it is not in the BMP and thus needs more position than one.
Length(Char) is 5 according to fpc, I see 5 "graphemes"
Indeed:
.Ld1$strlab:
.short 1200,
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 5:31 PM Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
wrote:
> Probably it is not in the BMP and thus needs more position than one.
Length(Char) is 5 according to fpc, I see 5 "graphemes", which suggest
that all of them fit into 1 WideChar?
--
Bart
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On 3/7/21 7:21 PM, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote:
On Mar 7, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
wrote:
Yes it is. And there are about 1114000 unicode codepoints, or about 17 times
what fits in a 2-byte wide char.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_point
https://en.wi
> On Mar 7, 2021, at 10:21 AM, Ryan Joseph wrote:
>
> I thought unicode strings "just worked" but maybe that's UTF-8 and the
> character I want is maybe UTF-16. What are you supposed to do then?
> UnicodeString knows how to print the full string so all the data is there but
> I can't index t
> On Mar 7, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes it is. And there are about 1114000 unicode codepoints, or about 17 times
> what fits in a 2-byte wide char.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_point
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-16
I thought u
Op 2021-03-07 om 17:38 schreef Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal:
On Mar 7, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
wrote:
Probably it is not in the BMP and thus needs more position than one.
Isn't char[1] a 2 byte wide char? Not sure I understand "more position than on"
though.
Ye
> On Mar 7, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
> wrote:
>
> Probably it is not in the BMP and thus needs more position than one.
Isn't char[1] a 2 byte wide char? Not sure I understand "more position than on"
though.
Regards,
Ryan Joseph
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Op 2021-03-07 om 17:21 schreef Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal:
I came across a bug which was caused but a unicode character losing information
and narrowed it down to this. Why doesn't the chars[1] print the same character
as appeared in the string?
var
chars: UnicodeString;
begin
chars :=
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