Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

This might be harmless if there was a way to disable pull requests, but if we mirror repos on GitHub we have a responsibility to monitor for and accept pull requests, otherwise potential contributors who are unfamiliar with our development flow will be discouraged when their pull requests sit unnot

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:03 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > There's no intention to support pull requests or to depend in any way > in this service, this is just a nice-to-have to serve the GitHub's > community and user base. My concern is that with no way to disable pull requests, potential contribut

Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Tobias Mueller

On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 15:28 +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: > As the board minutes show from a few weeks ago, the board has been in > touch with some advisory board members to find out if they could > donate some person time towards the upgrade. Since then, the sysadmin > team has also been in t

Re: Question for candidates

On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 16:55 +0100, David King wrote: > Finally, and only once the financial situation is more clear, the > board > needs to find a new executive director. I anticipate that these > goals, > which in some ways amount to getting the Foundation "back on track" > will be challenging t

Re: Question for candidates

On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 11:18 +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: > one of the options that I want the board to investigate > is to tie in the executive director's wage and travel budget with > adboard fees in such a way that the executive director will only be > compensated up to a maximum of what th

Re: About possible participation in Rest the Net campaign

On Tue, 2014-05-20 at 12:39 +0200, Oliver Propst wrote: > This would include: > Display a banner on GNOME.org, 5 June with link to > https://www.resetthenet.org/ > Promote our participation on the campaign website > Promote our our participation and our work in this area in our own > channels (gno

Re: About possible participation in Rest the Net campaign

On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 00:33 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: > Assuming gnome.org stands for www.gnome.org I'm asking you whether it > makes sense to "abuse" the use of SSL even when not really needed? From your response, I can see that you're concerned primarily with protecting users' personal informati

Question for candidates: OEMs

On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 14:35 -0400, Jeff Fortin wrote: > - Our somewhat nonexistent OEM story Dell is currently shipping Ubuntu computers running Unity. Wouldn't it be desirable to see a major OEM shipping GNOME as well? If so, what steps do you believe GNOME, and the board in particular, should ta

Re: Can a foundation member have access to the sponsorship history?

On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 10:25 +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote: > Again, sorry if I gave the wrong impression and please consider these > two things if I did it: > 1) I'm not a fluent English speaker (far away from that) It's mostly fine, but I think the confusion came from this sentence: "I've noticed

Re: Agenda for board meeting on July 18th

On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 14:12 +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: > I would like to remind you that if you would like the board to discuss > any issues at a meeting, you are welcome to request additions to the > agenda for the following meeting at any time. Could you please discuss how the new board

Re: GUADEC registration

On Sun, 2014-07-20 at 23:28 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > How about allowing people to pay with bitcoin? See https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2014-May/msg00079.html "The board has been advised by our accounting contacts and lawyers that we should not take Bitcoin directly becaus

Re: GUADEC registration

On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 16:41 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > This repression

Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of August 29th, 2014

On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 23:42 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: > * Getting a Bountysource account for the Foundation? (see "Bounties > for GNOME/GTK" thread) >* ACTION: Rosanna to open the account and coordinate with Daniel > Foré (Sri to get them in touch) Does this mean we're considering posting boun

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:41 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > we > raised 40 thousand dollars on a part time system administrator, and > that's a fraction of the cost of a full time developer. $40,000 is a reasonable salary for a full-time American developer, as long as he's not located someplace wi

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 15:29 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > I have a question, please explain me how outreach is mutually > exclusive with creating great software? Well hold up, nobody has suggested that "outreach is mutually exclusive with creating great software." Sebastien suggested that it may

Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of August 29th, 2014

> > Their terms of service [1] are also highly questionable. They reserve > > the right to take all the money in our account, or cancel our bounties > > without refunding our money, at any time and without any explanation, > > without cause or notice (section 6.5). "Without cause" seems like a > >

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 09:08 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > Hey Michael, > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:15:42PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > It would also be good to actually consider the value of student projects > > before funding them. With GSoC we just picked

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 14:01 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > Having 40k USD doesn't mean you get to spend that all on a developer. > At > least in Europe there is a huge amount of overhead (factor of 2.0-2.5 > IIRC for .nl). It's a reasonable pre-tax salary for an American. :) (We almost always think

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 15:22 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote: > - Writing a book, another actionable item. My school told me to buy a Qt textbook when I was a freshman, even though the class didn't involve Qt and we have zero Qt-related classes. Simply having the book increased Qt's exposure. What if

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 13:18 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > that's not really a competitive salary for an experience developer, > since we're talking about improving the developer experience of the > platform. it may be barely enough for a part time developer, like it's > barely enough for a part t

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 13:23 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote: > IF the Gnome Foundation spends money for GUADEC attendance sponsorship > for GSoC and OPW students, an easy way to reduce significantly the > costs > is to sponsor the students for going to the nearest Gnome conference: > GUADEC, Gnome As

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 14:31 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote: > But it's not the pre-tax salary. > It also includes a lot of things to be paid by the employer > http://www.accountingcoach.com/payroll-accounting/explanation/4 OK, I missed unemployment tax, which is significant, and slightly underestimate

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:07 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > I'm sure you're confusing me with somebody else. I don't live in the > US, I only work for a US company. I live in the UK. Whoops; I was thinking that Endless is based in San Francisco. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally sig

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:22 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > So it's better to only have 15 students working on important things, > rather than having these 15 students, plus 10 others working on less > important things? Nope! But maybe with a better selection process we could instead end up wit

Re: GNOME, Bounties and paid development [Was: Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?]

On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 11:56 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > The Elementary project claim to have had a lot of success with > Bountysource [1]. Earlier in this thread, they suggested that their bounties are mostly going out to regular Elementary developers who would have worked on something else for Elem

Re: GNOME, Bounties and paid development [Was: Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?]

On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 15:48 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > Michael Catanzaro wrote: > >> The Elementary project claim to have had a lot of success with > >> Bountysource [1]. > > > > Earlier in this thread, they suggested that their bounties are mostly > > goi

Re: GNOME and Ubuntu GNOME

On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 15:04 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > From my point of view it is really hard to figure out how to help if > we do not know what the problems are. Sebastian's suggestion is not so > bad, working closely with the Debian guys and reuse the work, however > if you do not state what t

Re: GNOME and Ubuntu GNOME

On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 11:30 -0700, Jim Nelson wrote: > For whatever it's worth, I had a lively discussion with Sebastien > Bacher about this on ubuntu-desktop (regarding the main flavor of > Ubuntu, not GNOME Ubuntu): > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2014-September/004539.ht

Re: GNOME and Ubuntu GNOME

> Some related advice: stop shipping different versions of GNOME software > > in the same release. For example, Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 includes > > gnome-shell 3.10, gnome-settings-daemon 3.8, and gnome-control-center > > 3.6. None of those are designed to work together: that's why you have > > control

Re: GNOME and Ubuntu GNOME

On Sat, 2014-09-27 at 20:24 +1000, Tim wrote: > Some of the panels in 3.6 were actual separate applications from memory. No, none of the panels in 3.6 were separate applications upstream; that functionality was removed a long time ago (in 3.2?). You have some downstream patches to add external app

Re: Agenda for board meeting on September 26th

On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 17:34 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > While Bountysource is interesting, I also think that we need to be > rather careful about adopting it. On top of your concerns, their 10% commission is quite high, and their terms of service are absurd [1], so I would advocate removing funds f

Re: Agenda for board meeting on September 26th

On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 17:00 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > Thus, rather than finding the answers elsewhere and (possibly) raising > _objections_ next week, I decided to raise _questions_ this week. Can > people interested in using Bountysource please find out the pertinent > facts about it? Hi,

Re: Message repeated due to mail bug

On Mon, 2014-10-13 at 22:09 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > I sent out the same message multiple times unintentionally due to a > bug in a script I use for mailing. Sorry. It should not happen > again. Looks like it happened again. :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mess

Re: Call for OPW project ideas

On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 18:48 +, Magdalen Berns wrote: > The challenges the OPW organisers face is in figuring out how to > encourage projects and mentors to sign up and yet also protect GNOME > from a potential lawsuit in the event that things go horribly wrong as > a result of something that ma

Re: Builder crowdsourcing banner on PGO

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: What nonfree software is needed? I think I don't have nonfree software, but I donated without problems. He doesn't like obfuscated JavaScript: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html Let's not let that hold us back from support

Re: Builder crowdsourcing banner on PGO

Hi, On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Magdalen Berns wrote: Hmm I am not so sure: The chip in your own card will be programmed with non-free software technically the transaction can't work unless the ATM is reading that. For the ATM to read your chip you are required you to physically connect

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Christian Hergert wrote: The problem is that it takes *months* to prepare a proper crowdfunding campaign. So if you didn't suggest crowdsupply to me back at the hackfest, it was simply *too late* to be reasonably actionable (despite that I might agree it would

Privacy campaign funds

Hi, A while back we ran a $20K privacy campaign. A while later there was a discussion about what to do with the funds. Did we ever decide what to do with these? Michael ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.or

Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 23th, 2015

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Magdalen Berns wrote: p.s. Consider what "Outreachy" rhymes with, before finalising this as a name. I'm not sure what it rhymes with but that caught my eye as well. The current name might be more effective. Good luck. ___

Re: Agenda for board meeting on February 27th

On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 00:02 +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Would the funds be for buying a license for it? > For releasing it under a free font license? And: why do we want a new font? :) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https

Re: [OT] Re: You logo

On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 16:50 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > Yeah, but you are the only person on this list constantly requesting > to > please put a "GNU/" prefix in front of the word "Linux" no matter what > the actual topic of the corresponding thread is, creating > uninteresting > noise for basica

Question to board candidates: privacy funds

In 2013 we raised $20,000 to improve security and privacy in GNOME. I am aware that the current board has finally formed a committee to determine how to use the funds, but I would have expected this process to have been completed by now, since it has been nearly two years since the conclusion of th

Re: Agenda for board meeting on July 7th

On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 19:17 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > I'm much less concerned about whether they want GNOME's *support* (as > it > seems rather unlikely either that they'd seek such support or that > we'd > offer it), and more concerned about whether they're actually acting > in > good faith

Re: gnomes collecting pants nominations

On Sat, 2015-07-18 at 12:33 -0400, Jeff Fortin Tam wrote: > * Is not a board member (since the board decides who the winner is). Quick question: does this rule exclude current board members, incoming board members, or both? Thanks, Michael ___ foundati

Re: User Data Manifesto

On Mon, 2015-08-17 at 11:31 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > Hi all, > > Our friends at ownCloud have been in touch to see if we want to > endorse the next version of the User Data Manifesto [1]. This is due > to be launched at the ownCloud contributor conference at the end of > August. A number of other

Re: User Data Manifesto

On Mon, 2015-08-17 at 11:31 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > Any thoughts? It looks quite good for the most part. I would change: "Users should not rely on centralised services." to: "Users should not rely on centralised services that do not provide control, knowledge, and freedom." Otherwise it's re

Re: Hello to Foundation List

On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 15:45 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Welcome Siska, it was a pleasure to meet you at GUADEC, we need > people as > cheerful and energetic as you are so I am really glad you're a > foundation > member now. Quite true. Welcome! :) Michael

Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of October, 27th, 2015

On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 19:07 +, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > == Discussed on the mailing list == > > > > * ilovewhatido.eu trademark license agreement > > * It will last for two years > > * 10% of net receipts (profits) will be donated to the foundation > > * We should be sent a royalty

Re: Agenda for board meeting on November 3rd

Hi, I suggest you consider whether boycotting proprietary app stores is the really best way to advance free software, considering that 99% of users on such platforms will not install our free software unless it is available via the app stores. Michael _

Re: Free software streaming

On Sat, 2016-01-09 at 15:46 +0100, Mathieu Duponchelle wrote: > Hey, you did not react to Nicolas Dufresne's suggestion of using > webrtc ? > Services like appear.in do not require installing extra software, as > most > of the heavy lifting is already done by modern browsers ( I'm sure > someone >

Re: Supporting GTK+

On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 11:58 +0300, Виталий wrote: > Hi, > > I tested the example (example-0.c > ) on > Windows 10 Enterprise (10240), but I get a runtime error 'Unspecified > fatal > error encountered, aborting.'. I'm using VS2015 ID

Re: Fixing calendars in GNOME

Please, if you respond to this mail, CC desktop-devel-list and not any of the other lists, as we can't have a productive conversation split across so many lists. On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 21:25 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > As you probably know, for one reason or other, scheduling > applicati

Re: Really professional GNOME videos

On Sun, 2016-03-27 at 07:53 +, Florian Müllner wrote: > Distributions appear in the video in the order of when 3.20 is > expected to > be included in the distribution. It's hard to believe that's what's intended. If so, it's very wrong. The order depicted in the video is: Arch -> Debian -> Fe

Re: This week in Gnome?

On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 23:36 +, John McHugh wrote: > Was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to set up a this week > in > gnome blog. Can you make it happen? It sounds like a good idea to me, but it needs someone to make it happen. Michael _

Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of July, 05th, 2016

On Thu, 2016-07-07 at 11:51 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: > = Foundation Board Minutes for Monday, July 5th 2016, 17:00 UTC = > > Next meeting date Tuesday, July 12th, 17:00 UTC Hi, I don't see any minutes for any board meetings more recent than July 5th; is the new board planning to post meeting mi

Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of August, 2nd, 2016

On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 16:58 -0400, James wrote: > Is this something that is upcoming or already happened? > > Thanks, > James It's upcoming in October. I don't think any details have been published yet for this year, but historically it begins the Saturday before Columbus Day and ends on that day

Re: GPLv2/LGPLv2.1: link to gnu.org instead of FSF address?

On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 13:57 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote: > Hello, > > Do you know if for the GPLv2 and LGPLv2.1 we can replace the FSF > address > by an URL to gnu.org? I do this in my packages. Michael ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-lis

Re: GPLv2/LGPLv2.1: link to gnu.org instead of FSF address?

On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 14:58 +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: > Are they GPLv2 or GPLv3? Both. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Code of Conduct Adoption Process

On Fri, 2016-09-16 at 20:33 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > Ironically, I was serving as his conduit into the list(s). > I will certainly stop. > > Which of these lists is he banned from?  Both? I don't know, but maybe he's just not subscribed. If so, his posts won't appear until approved by a m

Broken links on trademark guidelines page

Hi, A bunch of links to our trademark guidelines are broken on this page: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Resources/Trademark/FAQ All four links to foundation.gnome.org are broken. Also, the link to https://wiki.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines should be updated. It's immutable to me. I guess

Re: Broken links on trademark guidelines page

On Mon, 2017-02-13 at 11:48 +, Allan Day wrote: > I didn't realise that page existed! How did you end up there? Hi, I searched the wiki for "trademark." Michael ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailm

Re: GNOME Board of Directors Foundation Elections 2017 - Candidates

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:23 AM, Andrea Veri wrote: Foundation Members are welcome to ask questions to the candidates on foundation-list. Please try to avoid duplicates, and bear in mind candidates invest a lot of time in answering questions. Here's a question... if we have seven candidates fo

Re: GNOME Board of Directors Foundation Elections 2017 - Candidates

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Allan Day wrote: My immediate thought is that it could put some people off running, since it's a greater commitment. However, I'd be interested to hear what you think about it. Allan Yes, that's the main risk. The benefit is we would only be electing three or

Re: Preliminary Results - GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Elections 2017

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > This year we had 225 registered voters, 110 of which sent in valid > ballots. I am not surprised that so few voted. Can anyone think of a way to encourage more candidates? For comparison, last year we had 253 registered voters and

Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?

I won't take a stance on Discourse but I would like to hear from our Discourse moderators about their thoughts on a couple moderation issues I've noticed. #1, posts are being hidden rather aggressively, including seemingly innocuous posts like https://discourse.gnome.org/t/are-you-happy-wi

Re: Announcing Board of Directors Elections 2020

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 2:55 pm, Andrea Veri wrote: The deadline for submitting candidacies is tomorrow, please send your one in if you're willing to run for this year's elections :-) Currently we have only one candidate (Regina) to replace four open seats. Do the bylaws specify what happens

Re: GNOME Chat Platforms Evaluation Survey

On Thu, Mar 4 2021 at 01:05:03 PM +0100, Kristi Progri wrote: Please fill out this survey [https://surveys.gnome.org/267157?lang=en 4] to share with us your feedback. The whole survey will take you around 10 minutes to fill it out. The survey is broken: """ We are sorry but the survey is ex

Re: GNOME Chat Platforms Evaluation Survey

On Tue, May 11 2021 at 04:23:13 PM +0200, Oliver Propst wrote: Well I think basically it has expired. Oh I see, the mail was sent on March 4, but got stuck in moderation for two months until May 11. Alas! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundati

Re: Intent to retire people.gnome.org (31th of March)

On Wed, Mar 9 2022 at 05:44:04 PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: With that in mind and unless anyone within the community objects with a good rationale we'll be retiring the service by the 31th of March. Sadly I have images for appstream metadata hosted here (seemed like a good idea back in 2014,

Re: Intent to retire people.gnome.org (31th of March)

On Wed, Mar 9 2022 at 06:07:18 PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: Adding redirects once the service is down is a viable option, you can push those images to static.g.o and we can add a redirect afterwards to make sure stuff won't break. Let me know whether that works for you, thanks! Oh OK, yes th

Re: Intent to retire people.gnome.org (31th of March)

Hi Andrea, I've pushed all the screenshots here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/static-web/-/commit/d205056a93ab19e53afbb1fe53310d71d7f0afd1 so it should be easy to set up a redirect now. I've also submitted MRs to all affected apps to transition them from using the people.gnome.org U