what does that actually mean. It is
often not said whether they have a business access at work or a
flatrate at home. Without that, the information loses a lot of its
worth.
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* how the collaboration process differs
* how good is the content
* how liberal is the content (not contamined directly or indirectly by
the government)
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> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
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>> Hello,
>>
>> Having read
>> http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/10/14/wiki.ch
editor over the external links section.
>
> I tend towards the "argh, no, not another project" view on things. I
> think because, and perhaps this is unfair, I dislike that they may
> drain talent and resources away from the encyclopedias.
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> "Connection was reset" and you'll be unable to use the Wikipedia in 90
> seconds. That also produced a bad impression like oh, the site is
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> LiquidThreads has been in alpha testing on Wikimedia Labs [2] for
> several months, and, more recently, it's been used in a production
> context on the strategy wiki, where it has been quite well-received.
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orking yet.
Is there a decent turorial, anyway? Sorry, but I am not a software specialist.
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2009/12/19 David Goodman :
> mysterious codes? All that is needed is knowing how to indent and sign.
>
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> Am 30.12.2009 um 21:12 schrieb Ziko van Dijk:
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>> Hello,
>> I cannot see any messages, has anyone a clue why? I use firefox and
>> also tried iron.
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English (swing 8.9%)
> > United Arab Emirates: Arabic 66.8% UNDER English (swing 5.4%)
> > Egypt: Arabic 18.5% UNDER English (swing 11.3%)
> > Lithuania: Lithuanian 9.3% UNDER English (swing -6.4%) - vernaculars
> > 9.3% under English (swing -6.6%)
> > Iran: Persian 0.6% UNDER English (swing 0.5%)
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>> R: Mark Williamson
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>> Two main factors influencing choice of Wikipedia language:
>> # Fluency of the Internet-using population of a country in English.
>> # Quality of the native Wikipedia.
>>
>> A:
>> Like you say. Man
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> Can you imagine, finding places that have WP articles and projecting
> the logo globe on them?
>
> That would be an amazing public visibility thing. In SF alone, for
> instance, Grace Cathedral, Coit Tower, the Transamerica Pyramid....
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> Anyway, that's the kind of page I was looking for -- it just needs to
> be updated! Thanks.
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m: maintaining a Wikipedia language edition
means also doing a lot of technical stuff. The gals from Limburg would
love to see users from other language editions supporting them with
MediaWiki extensions, geolocalisation and the not so easy aspects of
categorization. http://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebroek
which I was still going to ask you questions - you
are more experienced still.
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>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Ziko van Dijk
> wrote:
>> When he told me about, I looked up again what I had written about
>> (small) Wik
ll of the world's knowledge.
> Jimbo's actions make that consensus deeply problematic.
>
> There is a petition for Wales' founder flag to be removed, which has gained
> widespread support since his actions. (
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Remove_Founder_flag )
>
>
> -A. C.
>
iven the importance of Commons for all projects, with at the
same time an inherent weakness of Commons because many Wikipedians use
it but do not engage in it specifically.
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[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_175-04413,_KZ_Auschwitz,_Einfahrt.j
Hello Naoko
Thank you for the explanations, by the way I find it interesting to
read the feedback, the users' comments.
Sometimes it is difficult for me to follow things because Vector has
changed or is displayed in various projects differently.
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were a betting man, I'd say the next
> "deadline" will be "before Wikimania!" When that passes, everyone can get
> distracted spending six months focusing on the annual fundraiser and we'll
> see you in
> Combining the two, and removing the potential bad bits (i.e. "double" and
> "review") how about "Checked Revisions"?
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Well, what James Alexander says - maybe we can make up something of
"edit". "Checked edit".
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>> In German Wikipedia, our word "gesichtet" is a little bit strange.
>> &q
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>> can't be worthwhile. Only that I think you're fighting an uphill
>> battle against a number of _natural_ (not human originated) biases,
>> and I wish you luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> [*] A while back I wrote up a longer and highly technical version of
>> this explanation as part o
create online
encyclopedias in "simple language", in and outside the Wikimedia
world. Wouldn't it be suitable to reconsider and try to give those
initiatives a place? Who else is more capable to create and support
such encyclopedias than we are?
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>> In the discussion, the question of creating a Wikipedia in simple
>> German came up.
>
> This would be useful.
>
>> As we know, to-day Wikimedia language committee policies prohibit a
>
2010/6/25 Milos Rancic :
> My first answer is that Wikipedia is good enough for children and that
> we do not need a Wikipedia fork with dumb language.
I wonder where such an attitude comes from. "Dumb"?
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>> -- certainly more than mine!
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>> We welcome automation in translation, but n
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stablished. But only
after a couple of years, you'll already have your first notable
anniversary (we had 5 years of WMNL in 2011), look back and cannot
imagine that there was once a time without a chapter.
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> The Wikimedi
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afraid that a new group at this point would bump into the
> same problems as the old one did, and has to go through that whole learning
> process all over again.
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> and Wikibooks and so on. Give them the opportunity to fix up the
> language used by the Foundation and the chapters.
>
> Remember: how can community members support and become more deeply
> involved with the work of the chapters and the Foundation if they
> can'
> info.
>
> Some companies sometimes hire external services (private historians) to
> "clean up" their archives and some good stuff can get out of this, such a
uncommon in the different Wikipedias.)
Not everything has to happen *in* Wikipedia.
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>> their books. That's what h
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>> As said, all the great things Oral history can be done - outside of
>> Wikipedia.
>
> Yes, it "can be done" but it's not "been made". The information is there for
> decad
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Dear all,
Here a little contribution to the discussion about new organizations
for the Wikimedia movement. As far as I know, at this point there are
not many groups who consider seriously about becoming such a new
organization. Sometimes people mention the Esperanto Wikipedians
because they cannot
s.
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> licensing attribution, and other issues heard. There are lots more, but if
> you have ideas please share.
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> 1. http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Product_Whitepaper
> 2. http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile
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>
> Ogden's Basic English was published in 1940. It's unlikely that those
> who asked for simple.wikipedia.org were unaware of it.
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come to a sister project and don't learn immediately that the rules
differ.)
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2011/7/1 WereSpielChequers :
> One thing I find irritating and complex about our structure is the
> proliferation of small wikis. Now I've no objection to the idea that
lt;http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_wikis#Organizational_and_planning_projects>
>
> Ziko van Dijk, 02/07/2011 00:14:
>> But in those sister projects communities, I have met fierce resistance
>> to any new branding or technical rearrangement. They even tend to
>> avoid to associate themselves with
imedia trademark and maybe abuse it. There must be an
official recognition anyway from Wikimedia Foundation.
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> I am not sure if this is about the same thing. I read Alec's questions as
> being about content projects that want to affiliate th
n poor countries, but maybe
e-publishing is, and there are certainly at least some places on the
internet that are suitable for new primary and also secondary sources.
Wikipedia cannot solve all problems in the world, and even Wikimedia
cannot.
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s and
secondary sources. It is the utmost important distinction in history
science. I am sure that any introduction to historiography will agree
with me on that.
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2011/7/27 Achal Prabhala :
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>
> On Wednesday 27 July 2011 09:38 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>>
such as Wikisource, Wikibooks etc.
Please let me know what you think about the possibility and potential
usefulness of Language Contact Persons.
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Is there anywhere more information about the Global Wikipedian,
introduced at Haifa? By chance, I got the business card of Rauan at
the chapters meeting.
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at least 2-3 are no longer active. But there was noone who felt
responsible (or authorized?) to remove those names.
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intentionally, because I thought they were recorded and going to be
uploaded. I used the time in Haifa to talk to people and make new
friends...
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from without the Wikimedia movement. One can
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> we could imagine something like an advisory board or scientific
> committee (not executive), appointed by the local chapter (and which
> could just be the chapter board of trustees, to start with), which would
> assist and somehow oversee the local office, with frequent reciprocal
; The Foundation needs to be mature enough to admit that they've screwed up
> this survey, apologise and try again. Next time, start by figuring out what
> you want to achieve by asking the questions and then choose the questions
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Sorry, I did not mean you, I should have deleted the previous text.
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> Ziko van Dijk, 04/09/2011 14:26:
>> I would like to know: Is the introduction of WMF people on national
>> boards a serious idea, or is it just a whim, a piece of loud thinki
ject". They grew to six later. In
German, they were four, later five.
In Dutch, at some times 3, but also 5. In Afrikaans, no real list. In
Frisian, originally 3, later 4, the "four F's". Frisian, Facts, Free,
ObjektyF. "But don't be too worried about rules. Contribut
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Am I the only one seeing a problem here?
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Wikimedia Nederland is reporting monthly on its activities. We just
completed December, and for convenience I send you here the link to
the whole list of reports.
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mean when English speaking Wikimedians talk about "local chapters"?
Shouldn't it be "national chapters"? I consider Germany as a national, not a
local entity...
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erican institutions and personalities in a way usually a
chapter would. American Wikimedians have no reason to take effort for a WMUS
if they see this and that they can have US states chapters.
* The world is divided into countries, like it or not, and this has
consequences for us.
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> >> If I understand it right, Wikimedia or other stewards can trace what a
> >> single steward is doing. Even if a dictatorship forces a local steward
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> >> something, there is the danger that this becomes pub
Sometimes it would be useful to have a kind of organisation for these
language editions, not chapters, but something else, for PR purposes,
contacts with language institutions etc.
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al title, also interesting for a curriculum
vitae (resumé) of the participating Wikipedians.
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