Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

2012-03-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Neil Babbage wrote: > > >> If you ran a charity store committed to providing educational products >> free to all who needed them you wouldn't get many children as customers if >> you put hardcore sex produc

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-21 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:53 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Sue Gardner wrote: >> Everybody knows that reversing stagnating/declining participation >> in Wikimedia's projects is our top priority. > > Thank you for sharing this. > > How much discussion has there been internally about this being the wron

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:07 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:53 AM, MZMcBride wrote: >>> Sue Gardner wrote: Everybody knows that reversing stagnating/declining participation in Wikimedia's projects is our top priority. >>> >>> Thank you fo

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
> > Hi Birgitte > > I greatly respect your opinion, and rarely found myself disagreeing with > you. I didn't want to reply in-line because I believe majority of your > opinions stem from the wisdom of the crowd model, which might best describe > the wiki model and the assumption that, it will con

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-27 Thread Birgitte_sb
It seems to me that there has been a quite a variety of results to booster activities, and that the poorest results have come from random educators who decide to make a "Wikipedia class project" without consulting any veteran editors rather than from people more thoroughly exposed to the sausage

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-04-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
Please don't assume I disagree with all objections that could possibly be made, just because I disagree that the one's which had been presented so far are very significant. I sincerely hope this program is more decentralized then any other program being run right now. It seems to be in rather ea

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
Yes I eventually found that app. And it is much superior to editing from the browser. But it doesn't support ProofreadPage extension. Still between the app and browser it is definitely workable with two edits. My concern is much more that the reading/navigation experience seems to be driving pe

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
You are third person to respond as if my email was about me personally looking for help editing. And the second to snip my writing out of all context. Steven seemed to actually get what my concern was. You can hate whatever you like, or dislike as the case may be. It is not going to help WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
I forgot to say there are not website bugs, so much as browser bugs. Or just an extremely different interface. Perhaps a great mobile browser could be built to effectively kill apps. But is not something website changes could address. IMHO BirgitteSB Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF & Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Mike Godwin wrote: > Michael Snow writes: > > And for people who were worrying about the implications, I think setting > > things up in stages is just as likely to make it look worse as to make it >> look >> better. >> > > I think Michael's point here can't be

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF & Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 06/24/2011 01:58 AM, Kat Walsh wrote: >> It also wasn't an easy decision to make. The question came down to >> this one: do we necessarily refuse someone as a candidate solely >> because they were proposed by a funder? > > As a Nominating

Re: [Foundation-l] Nominating Committee

2011-06-25 Thread Birgitte_sb
To clarify my position, I found the procedure as designed for handling appointed seats to be inherently unworkable. I don't think the procedures could have been followed during my service on the committee given the resources and time available. I imagine idealists will disagree with that assessm

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-08 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:50 AM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > 2011/7/7 Ting Chen > >> On de.wikisource.org they scan every page of the original text, upload >> the scan on Commons and show the scan on the right part of every page as >> an image. It is even obligatory to have the original scan of the te

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 9, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > 2011/7/9 > >> Snip > >> Having a corpus with some depth on Wikisource will open up a much different >> reading experience than an index of PDFs, even though the words all match. >> Just look at what is being done with the SCOTUS documents,

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
Do they have notaries in the Netherlands? Why not simply ask them to mail a notarized statement that "I am Foo at such an address and request an ublock so I may edit as Bar"? I still am not sure if this is something I would completely endorse, but at least it would be meaningful and not so easi

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:45 PM, MZMcBride wrote: . > > People bring up the forum because this (foundation-l) is the central list > for the Wikimedia Foundation. Anyone who thinks that this particular issue > is outside of this list's scope is insane. Using internal-l as a substitute > for an open

[Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
Sorry if this a duplicate but I didn't receive it even though my later email came through Begin forwarded message: > From: birgitte...@yahoo.com > Date: August 5, 2011 7:07:02 PM CDT > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapt

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 5, 2011, at 3:32 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > > ==Design principles==* > > Our design principles for improving the fundraising model are: > > * We are deeply committed to decentralized pursuit of our mission and to > supporting the long-term sustainability of chapters and other movemen

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-06 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 6, 2011, at 2:41 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Hello Birgitte, > > Thank you for these comments and edits/suggestions. [all: please also > post suggestions on Meta. most people are not subscribed to this > list.] > > This Board letter was published on short notice. Once it was clear >

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-06 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:14 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Hello MZM, thanks for taking a start at new pages to illustrate the > discussion on Meta. > > MZMcBride writes: > . > > >> Anyone who thinks that this particular issue >> is outside of this list's scope is insane. Using internal-l as a sub

[Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-08 Thread Birgitte_sb
I have realized that WMF seems to seriously misunderstand the role of chapters. I say this as someone who has always had a somewhat conservative view of chapters to begin with. But underneath the current rift is a serious disconnect between WMF professionals and how this whole program actually

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 8, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:39 PM, wrote: > >> Decentralization isn't some random choice that somehow was attached to this >> movement; it is the only way the program functions at all. WMF professionals >> can't begin to account for the pro

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:51 AM, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" wrote: >> Nor does off-wiki collaboration require that a formal entity be in >> existence. Off-wiki activities -- whether social meetups or more formal >> outreach efforts to GLAM institutions and elsewhere -- are no less >> effective >> for

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > >> Writing about ethical concerns while at same time being blind to anything >> that does not maximize donations is laughable. The obvious solution to the >> stated concern that is being raised is returning to the split screen >> fundrais

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 8/9/11 3:47 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: >> It seems to me that these changes are about making chapters more into >> franchises. Which I find to be exactly backwards. > > It would be, if that's what it were about. But I can say with > confide

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: >> Redefining the chapters >> who participated in a joint fundraiser with WMF as WMF's "payment >> processors" is straight-up insulting. > > Whoa, please slow down! > > No one has said anything like that, and it isn't how the term is being >

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Nathan wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, wrote: > >> I don't care what people spoke of, nor of what they desire, nor what their >> agenda is. I never supposed that people were conspiring to fail. I care >> what effect the actions people are proposing

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM, wrote: > >> I don't think chapters are being cut off I think they are being >> centralized. Centralization, not lack of funding, is what I believe will >> make chapters ineffective. Frankly, I think cutti

Re: [Foundation-l] Principle and pragmatism with nudity and sexual content

2009-04-21 Thread birgitte_sb
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Samuel Klein wrote: > From: Samuel Klein > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Principle and pragmatism with nudity and sexual > content > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 6:26 PM > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:18 AM, > David Gerard > wrote:

[Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
I am getting ready do to a little traveling. It works out that traveling light is going to be my best bet for various reasons. As I don't want to carry around the weight of a laptop; I have purchased a little closer to the cutting edge than I generally do. In setting up my iPad this is what shoc

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jun 9, 2011, at 8:23 PM, "K. Peachey" wrote: > Why couldn't you edit it with the normal web browser in the ipad? > > ___ > I could edit from a browser, but it was rather difficult. That difficulty wasn't really important, but just what motivat