On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Huib Laurens wrote:
> I don't really think that would be enough.. I am not sure but the
> poster and the license need to stay together.. If the attribution is
> on a paper with the poster the license and author can get lost...
There is nothing that says that the l
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Phil Nash wrote:
> Sorry, my experience is different; there are some editors whose behavioural
> problems go on, and on, and on, yet are tolerated, because they contribute
> "good content". But the overhead to others drains volunteer resources.
I can raise you on
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
> Hoi,
> There is this "rule"; ignore all rules. There is a point to it. Particularly
> in situations where an injustice is likely to happen, the blind following of
> rules can be quite inhuman and at best an excuse for not thinking through
>
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Andre Engels wrote:
> As I have written before, I disagree with "Ignore All Rules" because
> there are some rules that should NOT be ignored. Ignore all rules is a
> good rule when applied to rules about what the lay-out of Wikipedia
> pages
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 6:33 PM, geni wrote:
> 2009/2/15 P. Birken :
>> Hiho,
>>
>> there have been some significant developments on de-WP, which I would
>> like to share with this list.
>>
>> On February, 4th, all articles of the german WP had at least one
>> sighted revision. Since then, only pa
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:17 AM, John at Darkstar wrote:
> The release has been given a lot of press coverage, and some comparisons
> between the encyclopedias has been done. Two of them, in Dagbladet[1]
> and Dagsavisen[2], has concluded that Wikipedia is best. According to
> Aftenposten the new
Free as in beer, of course, but still, that's the main part of what's
our mission, our at least what I see as our mission: As I see it, our
mission is to ensure that the _knowledge and information_ are
_available_ to everyone. For that, free as in beer is the important
step.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 a
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM, John at Darkstar wrote:
> I've been wondering if we could identify different users somehow, what
> kind of role they had in writing of the article - especially who did the
> research and who did the writing, and what kind of trust (reputation)
> they have.
>
> The
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
> Hoi,
> What would you achieve by doing that and, what would it mean for our down
> stream users ? In my opinion this is not where we want to go at all.
What it would achieve is that the reader has more of an idea who wrote
what he is read
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Chris Down
wrote:
> Can anyone shed some light on whether this is even feasible? I really don't
> see how it could possibly be construed as being such.
It would be great if it were feasible, but the thing as it stands is
ludicrous. As others have already mentioned
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:59 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/3/16 Michael Snow :
>> Anthony wrote:
>
>>> For offline copies, that would likewise be no attribution at all.
>
>> Can we please drop the nonsense that a URL is "no attribution at all" in
>> an offline context? I've made this point before
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote:
> Thank you, but not obligatory a list. I meant any form, even a number
> of rules written on this mailing list. Otherwise we (may) have a
> situation when, for instance, a user puts some inflammatory or
> divisive content on their user page and
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Anthony wrote:
> Here's the NPPA Code of ethics:
>
> 1. Be accurate and comprehensive in the representation of subjects.
> 2. Resist being manipulated by staged photo opportunities.
> 3. Be complete and provide context when photographing or recording
> sub
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Michael Snow wrote:
> Because of this, we ask the Wikimedia staff to take appropriate steps to
> register and protect the Wikimedia marks, develop a set of policies and
> practices, and develop a strategy to allow uses by the chapters and
> community for activitie
My opinion on this is clear: Commons should welcome both photographs
and pictures. Whether a project shows a picture or a photograph should
be the project's decision, not that of Commons. Some may prefer one,
others the other. Sexuality is in scope on Wikimedia projects, so its
images are in scope
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Brian wrote:
> In the absence of a specific argument against my argument, my argument holds
> - Google imports the data into their own service and there is no
> contradiction.
>
> Suppose however that my argument did not hold - that when Google download's
> data to
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Jimmy Xu wrote:
> Hello all,
> These days at the Village Pump of zhwiki, many wikipedians are
> arguing about whether Wikimedia project should apply to the US
> Copyright Law that is where the servers were placed, or the local
> ones, for us, that is the P.R. of Ch
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Jimmy Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:28 AM, teun spaans wrote:
>> IANAL, but I suppose three things must be considered:
>> - US law, where the servers are based
>> - the country where a work originates
>> - the country to which the wikipedian belongs.
>
> T
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> First, I want to thank to Tim who created the project [1] today.
> Tomorrow is the main cultural event for Meadow Maris and they will
> have Wikipedia for that day. Because of that, I asked the Board and
> WMF tech staff to create the project mo
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Andre Engels wrote:
>> I don't want to spoil the fun, but I still get a "Wiki does not exist"
>> message on that URL.
>
> Ah, bad Tim. He opened it just for me ;) I thi
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Yesterday, new projects were opened:
>
> * Sorani Wikipedia (http://ckb.wikipedia.org/)
> * Western Panjabi Wikipedia (http://pnb.wikipedia.org/)
> * Mirandese Wikipedia (http://mwl.wikipedia.org/)
> * Acehnese Wikipedia (http://ace.wikipedia.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
> Of these 270 languages of Wikipedia, only 41 have more than 50,000
> articles and only 69 had more than 1 million page views in July of
> 2009. The 69th most used Wikipedia is Swahili. This East African
> language has 50 million speakers, wh
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Andrew
Turvey wrote:
> - The iso code for Romanian/Moldavian is ro. "mo", which was the ISO code for
> Moldavian in the Cyrillic script is now deprecated. There is no ISO code for
> Cyrillic script Moldavian.
ISO 639 codes are about languages, not scripts. The c
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
> The backlash had the potential of stopping all new Wikipedias in any
> language. To prevent this from happening, the language committee and its
> policy were created. This policy was accepted by the board of trustees. With
> the flow of ne
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson
wrote:
> Did you know that less than a third of the users who create an account on
> English Wikipedia make even *one* edit afterwards? Two-thirds of all new
> accounts never edit! Interestingly, this percentage vary very much from
> language
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> My precise question is: Does US law follow local copyright laws in
> relation to the works published locally and by authors with local
> citizenship? Or not?
No, many countries apply the 'law of shorter term' (that is, works
from other count
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:26 AM, wrote:
> In a message dated 11/28/2010 9:06:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> russnel...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Yes I agree, the policy is extremely vague.
> We may be struck by lightning, we may be abducted by aliens, we may be
> sentient beings.
> May doesn't say an
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:49 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> Yes, raw data is a primary source and therefore likely unsuitable for en:wp.
>
> The raw data is, however, US government public domain and therefore
> suitable for Wikisource as an important historical text (which it is).
> Possibly when the
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> Are there any checkusers that aren't admins already? Checkuser is an
> extra tool given to admins, not a tool given out independantly of
> other tools.
On Dutch Wikipedia we currently have 5 checkusers, only 2 of which are
admins. The other
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Lodewijk wrote:
> Mi ne havas kontraŭstaron pri Esperanto en ĉi tiu specifa temo. Bedaŭrinde
> mankas Google traduki en ĉi tiu lingvo!
Machine translation from Esperanto to English or Hungarian is possible
at http://traduku.net
--
André Engels, andreeng...@gmail
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:35 PM, FT2 wrote:
> During the strategy taskforce, the quality team came to two conclusions that
> are similar to some ideas in this thread, but avoid the issues mentioned.
[snip]
First, let me apologize beforehand for sounding too cynical, but I
have many years of ex
I may sound negative, as said, I know much has been tried, and little
succeeded. I do really hope this does work, and am well willing to
think along to try to make it that way. In fact, it is not that far
from ideas that I have developed myself or with other users on IRC as
well - although I was pu
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> That's precisely the problem. Being able to remove the right to edit BLPs
> from a user, irrespective of whether they have been uncivil etc., just
> based on the nature of their edits, is the only thing that will solve it.
>
> Knowing that t
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:
> I can see where this ends: biased editors in control; no discussion, no
> appeal, disagree and you're history.
That is indeed a risk. There seems to be no way out. Either you treat
trolls as deccent editors, or you treat decent editors as tr
Lowering the edit counts sounds good, it does however also have a
downside, in that it makes it easier to vote using sockpuppets or
meatpuppets.
I agree with voices speaking out against giving voting rights based on
donations; I do also think giving people voting rights based only on
being 'reader
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Ashar Voultoiz wrote:
> You do have the power! The world as immensely changed in the last few
> years thanks to the internet. Internet is just about connecting people
> and every little step is a change. Get an idea, get community members
> sharing it then you c
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Joan Goma wrote:
> As Ray saids legal prosecution to claim for formal accomplishing of the
> copyright terms is expensive and difficult. But the same happens the other
> way around.
>
> I would like to have a clear legal opinion about applying the terms without
> g
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Thomas Morton
wrote:
> In a number of years things may change, and ultimately the photo will
> definitely be out of copyright wherever and whenever published though the
> simple passing of time :)
If the US keeps its speed of extending copyright by 20 years in 22
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Those are preliminary results. We have two chapters (and strategic
> focus) in countries of the list above. Inside of the longer list, which
> should be verified, we have more chapters. I noted that there are even
> two languages of Germany w
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:13 PM, wrote:
> You're missing my point.
> All the Latin languages "share a common writing system" and "only differ in
> the way the language is spoken".
>
> Address the point that the "words" within the system have the same semantic
> *meaning* and are formed with the
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On 05/22/2011 06:41 PM, Thomas Morton wrote:
>> An interesting "aside" on this would be...
>>
>> What is the quality of the foreign-language Wiki's that currently exist. For
>> example; the articles in my specific technical topic area have a
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's this defeatist attitude that has made being bold go out of style.
> Screw the bureaucracy, I say. Shred the rulebooks (or at least
> delete practically everything from the project namespace) and
> do what is right rather than
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Marcus Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad hett schreven:
>> However, we do have a policy (for better or worse) that currently states
>> that:
>> "The proposal has a sufficient number of living native speakers to form a
>> viable
>> community and audience." [1]
>
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The same arguments that apply to people who speak languages like Yoruba and
> Sango apply to any of the sign languages.. People who are deaf and sign are
> better served when equal information is available in their sign
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Marcus Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andre Engels hett schreven:
>>> nd this configuration does make sense, in my opinion. If we
>>> have a hypothetical language with one million oral speakers, but only a
>>> handful of pe
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Finn Rindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I thought there already *was* a redirect set up, so that no in
> interwikis etc really is a redirect to nb.
There is a redirect set up, but it goes in exactly the opposite direction.
--
André Engels, [EMAIL PROTECT
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Brock Weller wrote:
> I don't care if its up or down, i was just wondering if we're still
> connected to wikia in anyway (ie it reflect badly on us). If we're not, as
> it seems by your response, then I really don't care too much :)
There's no official connection
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> I realized that at Requests for new languages [1] we have a number of
> proposals for projects in moribund languages [2]. In brief, when
> roughly less than 1000 dominantly older persons speak one language,
> this language will be dead when tho
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Calling it "a 23-people organization" suggests a growing chasm between
> the volunteers and the hired hands.
Well, I do indeed feel that chasm too, although perhaps it's more a
case of a felt distance between the foundation and the projects.
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