On Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:59 AM wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:42:05 -0700 wrote:
Those of you who have been around for a few years may remember
user:Tlogmer, aka Ben Yates -- co-author with Charles Matthews and I
on "How Wikipedia Works."
I got an email from his mother this morning with th
Dear friends,
After weeks of full work, this is the draft charter that has been
worked on. I copy for you here the introduction and the link to meta.
If you have questions about it, you may put them on the talk page or
send them to me.
Kind regards
Ziko
In February 2012, in Paris, Chapter repr
So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize
the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and
apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that
think this is a good idea?
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
Nathan, 18/03/2012 20:47:
So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize
the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and
apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that
think this is a good idea?
Yes because it is. And it
Think of this more as the hub of a bicycle wheel with many spokes, rather than
a centralised body. A device that makes for quicker progress than walking
alone, but isn't a burdensome stone wheel.
Having a lightweight central organisation that can keep an eye on what is going
on, that can provid
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Nathan wrote:
> So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize
> the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and
> apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that
> think this is a good idea
Hmmm, whilst I certainly sympathise with the factions that prompted this, I
have to agree with Nathan that it is a saddening thing to see.
Governments are stifling, and this unfortunately is what appears to be
being proposed.
I recall a comment one of my favourite professors used to make which wa
Some further comments, having read the related pages in more depth:
- To what legal body will the "duties" be paid?
- What is the purpose of duties exactly (there seems no obvious use for
them by the council)?
As I can make out it is to set up committees, groups and projects and
chapter events -
> So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize
> the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and
> apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that
> think this is a good idea?
Yes, there are lots of people that think this
On 18 March 2012 21:18, Thomas Morton wrote:
> Some further comments, having read the related pages in more depth:
>
> - To what legal body will the "duties" be paid?
The idea is that the council will be a new legal body.
> - What is the purpose of duties exactly (there seems no obvious use for
>
> Yes, there are lots of people that think this is a good idea.
>
> Currently, there are 3 things not happening, which are causing us problems:
>
> 1) There's not really anyone to help chapters develop. If you have a group
> of Wikipedians who want to set up a chapter, there are lots of challeng
On 18 March 2012 21:29, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 18 March 2012 21:18, Thomas Morton
> wrote:
> > Some further comments, having read the related pages in more depth:
> >
> > - To what legal body will the "duties" be paid?
>
> The idea is that the council will be a new legal body.
>
> > - What is
>
>
> This could be much more usefully addressed with a cooperative assistance
> group, rather than some sort of super-governance association. Somehow lots
> of chapters managed to form themselves without the existence of an
> international governing body. If technical assistance is what you are
>
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Chris Keating
wrote:
> >
> >
> > This could be much more usefully addressed with a cooperative assistance
> > group, rather than some sort of super-governance association. Somehow
> lots
> > of chapters managed to form themselves without the existence of an
> > int
We agree that regionalization is something important and different
approaches should be considered and not only the European one.
And that's why we think it is important the idea of a council, where all
chapters are equal partners and not subordinated to a single Anglo-American
concept that has pre
Friends from the Oxford Internet Institute well-known for their global
Wikipedia research, including Mark Graham, are organizing a workshop for Middle
East contributors to Wikipedia in Amman next month. But interest in
participating has been so low that they may need to postpone. If you edit
Mi
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