Some further comments, having read the related pages in more depth: - To what legal body will the "duties" be paid?
- What is the purpose of duties exactly (there seems no obvious use for them by the council)? As I can make out it is to set up committees, groups and projects and chapter events - this seems worryingly like a modern government. Inefficient and wasteful. Ideally we should use the current model - where the more flush chapters utilise their funds to pay for international events. This works (IMO) surprisingly well, even if it is a little chaotic. I think any monetary consideration needs to be scrapped because it is a pure minefield; unless anyone can lay out clearly what unique use it could be put to... - Having read the draft most seems (and I don't want to be harsh but I may be) totally unnecessary and pointless. A while ago I was part of a group that played a game called Nation States (you may have heard of it) which was basically a massive RPG based around government. A group of use spent a very long time building a brilliant charter and slick government... on paper it looked effective, in practice it wasn't all that robust, and largely turned political. Governments almost always do this - and so you should avoid it as much as you can! FWIW a lot of my concerns are addressed in Tango's draft ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_Council/Draft_charter) which for me demonstrates a deep understanding of both the legal and moral issues involved in such a body. If we must have a beurocracy then this is a much lighter and more detailed approach - although I would recommend shortening the terms, demanding *all* communication in public and provide more options for wider chapter input. Finally; I think the key consideration *not* addressed in any of these proposals is independence from the WMF - both in online and offline. It would be interesting to see the thoughts on that. Tom _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
