Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

I did use a very old "konversationslexikon" as a child, mainly for the pictures. With our children this got replaced now by online resources. And no, not by wikipedia, but by YouTube. And every time I spend 15 minutes to find a video to illustrate something it makes me a little sad that we as a gro

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 14 March 2012 00:22, phoebe ayers wrote: > I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from > a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to > include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print > encyclopedias as a kid? Was a love of print ency

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 14 March 2012 07:33, rupert THURNER wrote: > I did use a very old "konversationslexikon" as a child, mainly for the > pictures. With our children this got replaced now by online resources. And > no, not by wikipedia, but by YouTube. And every time I spend 15 minutes to > find a video to illust

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 14 March 2012 05:16, Béria Lima wrote: > I will actually look for a copy of the 15th edition (for sentimental > reasons) to buy before they get too rare and too expensive :D Of course I > will miss it! If Britannica is gone we will need to start printing > Wikipedia ;-) I see old sets of Bri

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

Sure, that isn't the problem ;) go to USA is *so* cheap those days ;) I was actually about to go request the one from my old school, they should give the book to the only girl who read the full school library right? ;) (well, 80% but I left before graduate from High School, so I might had got the

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

I did use a very old "konversationslexikon" as a child, mainly for the pictures. With our children this got replaced now by online resources. And no, not by wikipedia, but by YouTube. And every time I spend 15 minutes to find a video to illustrate something it makes me a little sad that we as a gro

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012/3/14 David Gerard : > On 14 March 2012 05:16, Béria Lima wrote: > >> I will actually look for a copy of the 15th edition (for sentimental >> reasons) to buy before they get too rare and too expensive :D Of course I >> will miss it! If Britannica is gone we will need to start printing >> Wikip

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

I think what you might be remembering is that they used to sell them via a sales force who went door to door. They announced a few years back that they were stopping that. --Original Message-- From: Yaroslav M. Blanter Sender: foundation-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Foun

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

I had a small encyclopedia at home (only one volume, but a massive volume) and there was a copy of Britannica in the local library and, later, at secondary school. But I started getting frustrated with them when I was about 12 or 13, because the shorter articles rarely answered the questions I had

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

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Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 03/13/12 3:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:54:48 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it is I'm remembering? No, I think there were only like three b

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

> I think what you might be remembering is that they used to sell them via a > sales force who went door to door. They announced a few years back that > they were stopping that. > > And, indeed, it was the reliance on the sales force that killed off Britannica in the late-80s/early-90s when Encarta

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

Samuel Klein, 14/03/2012 03:00: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I am confusing things. There's also World Book in E

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

> did you use print encyclopedias as a kid? Oh yes. I especially loved #6 of Lithuanian Soviet Encyclopedia http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaizdas:Lietuviskoji_tarybine_enciklopedija_resize.jpg - L* had airplanes and M* had automobiles ;) B* had whales (hence my obsession with Exploding Whale art

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:00, Samuel Klein wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: >>> >> No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still >> being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I >> am confusing things.

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

Interesting news indeed. Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Russavia On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > 2010's 32-volume set will be its last.  (Now I want to get one, to > rep

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 14/03/12 13:17, Milos Rancic wrote: There is ~20 volumes Serbian Encyclopedia in progress, likely to be finished around 2050. I have no idea what would be the purpose of that Milos, please. It will likely be finished around 2025. paper encyclopedia at that time, but I know that it is getti

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 14 Mar 2012, at 12:21, Russavia wrote: > Interesting news indeed. > > Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed > encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Something like this: http://www.labnol.org/internet/wikipedia-printed-book/9136/ ? (And

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 14 March 2012 09:40, Joan Goma wrote: > Unfortunatelly they still not realize that if published using a free > licence compatible with Wikipedeia their income would be even 15 times > larger. Would it? Can you explain how that business model would work? There are ways of making money by produc

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 14 March 2012 12:50, Michael Peel wrote: > On 14 Mar 2012, at 12:21, Russavia wrote: >> Interesting news indeed. >> Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed >> encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? > Something like this: > http://www.labnol

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, Britannica to stop printing books

Why did the articles in Brittania keep getting shorter? Because printing on paper costs money. Storage on the Internet is free by comparison. - So why do our editors insist on reducing what might be an interesting article down to something so brief it might as well be on paper in a book that w

[Foundation-l] CBC getting rid of physical archives(but not digitising all of them)

"The CBC is getting rid of its physical music collections in Vancouver and other sites across the country, a treasure trove of over 100,000 artifacts amassed over decades. Valuable, rare and historic recordings on vinyl and tape will be destroyed or dispersed, lost to all of us forever. " http:/

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> 2010's 32-volume set will be its last.  (Now I want to get one, to >> replace my old set!)  Future versions will be digital only. >> >> http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/a

Re: [Foundation-l] CBC getting rid of physical archives(but not digitising all of them)

On 14 March 2012 17:54, Kim Bruning wrote: > "The CBC is getting rid of its physical music collections in Vancouver and > other sites across the country, a treasure > trove of over 100,000 artifacts amassed over decades. Valuable, rare and > historic recordings on vinyl and tape will be > destro

Re: [Foundation-l] CBC getting rid of physical archives(but not digitising all of them)

on 3/14/12 1:54 PM, Kim Bruning at k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: > "The CBC is getting rid of its physical music collections in Vancouver and > other sites across the country, a treasure > trove of over 100,000 artifacts amassed over decades. Valuable, rare and > historic recordings on vinyl and t

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

>From: Thomas Dalton > > On 14 March 2012 09:40, Joan Goma wrote: > > Unfortunatelly they still not realize that if published using a free > > licence compatible with Wikipedeia their income would be even 15 times > > larger. > > Would it? Can you explain how that business model would work? Ther

Re: [Foundation-l] CBC getting rid of physical archives(but not digitising all of them)

On 14 March 2012 19:27, Tom Morris wrote: > Wow, if only there were another public service broadcaster who > stupidly decided to chuck away their physical archives for cost > reasons and then rapidly came to regret it afterwards. > > What's that broadcaster called? I'm pretty sure the name only ha

[Foundation-l] CBC getting rid of physical archives

If there is anyone who wishes to take this on in the name of Wikimedia Canada I would be supportive. I know we have a few members in Vancouver who may be interested. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

Hoi, Commons as a project provides a service to any and all projects. It does have its own community but as Commons is a shared resource it is similar but not the same in its autonomy. This should be obvious . Thanks, Gerard On 13 March 2012 08:23, Ray Saintonge wrote: > On 03/09/12 9:39 PM,

[Foundation-l] Guidelines for the use of iframes?

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?oldid=79658&action=edit This page is currently loading an from . Besides banishing the pretty green lock icon in Chrome (due to the mixture of http and https), as far as I understand it, the use of an like this exposes user dat

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, Britannica to stop printing books

Dear Robin, There are several reasons for making a text not too long. Pity with the reader is one of them. I personally try to be reluctant with generalizations about Wikipeda language versions. They usually are not true. It's often like the thing that the grass in the neighbour's yard is greener

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On 03/14/12 2:29 PM, Joan Goma wrote: Catalan Wikipedia has about 10 times more pageviews than them. If they use a free license and use a wiki then their professionals can copy our best articles and review them and we can copy their content. 7,8% of their page-views go there from Catalan Wikiped

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, Britannica to stop printing books

I don't think it is pity to reduce an 800 word article down to under 200 words. Instead of something readable you end up either with a Who's Who entry - filled with insider abbreviations and obscure wording that must be decoded or something so bland it has no value to anyone intrested enough to

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, Britannica to stop printing books

On 14 March 2012 17:34, Robin McCain wrote: > I find it bizarre that inclusion of information of local importance is > encouraged in the internationalized local language wikipediae but > discouraged in the U.S. English wikipedia. What U.S. English Wikipedia? I have read plenty of articles in En

[Foundation-l] sad news

Those of you who have been around for a few years may remember user:Tlogmer, aka Ben Yates -- co-author with Charles Matthews and I on "How Wikipedia Works." I got an email from his mother this morning with the very sad news that Ben passed away yesterday. I do not know the details. He was in his

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > > I don't think that copying articles is the way to go. If the two projects > have separate articles on the same subjects that's still a very good thing. > They can still maintain their "professional" standards, whatever that > means. The re

Re: [Foundation-l] Guidelines for the use of iframes?

That should be reverted right now per our privacy policy and any others on site. No different than share button usage. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Guidelines for the use of iframes?

K. Peachey wrote: > That should be reverted right now per our privacy policy and any > others on site. No different than share button usage. As far as I've come to understand it, it's a matter of whether Jobvite's privacy policy is compatible with Wikimedia's: * https://wikimediafoundation.org/wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Guidelines for the use of iframes?

HR recently switched to an externally hosted applicant tracking system called Jobvite. It's sadly proprietary, but very feature-rich and used by many tech companies, including e.g. Mozilla. Basically the previous process was for candidates to be dumped in a shared inbox, where recruiters and hiring