We agree that regionalization is something important and different
approaches should be considered and not only the European one.
And that's why we think it is important the idea of a council, where all
chapters are equal partners and not subordinated to a single Anglo-American
concept that has pre
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Chris Keating
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> >
> > This could be much more usefully addressed with a cooperative assistance
> > group, rather than some sort of super-governance association. Somehow
> lots
> > of chapters managed to form themselves without the existence of an
> > int
>
>
> This could be much more usefully addressed with a cooperative assistance
> group, rather than some sort of super-governance association. Somehow lots
> of chapters managed to form themselves without the existence of an
> international governing body. If technical assistance is what you are
>
On 18 March 2012 21:29, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 18 March 2012 21:18, Thomas Morton
> wrote:
> > Some further comments, having read the related pages in more depth:
> >
> > - To what legal body will the "duties" be paid?
>
> The idea is that the council will be a new legal body.
>
> > - What is
>
> Yes, there are lots of people that think this is a good idea.
>
> Currently, there are 3 things not happening, which are causing us problems:
>
> 1) There's not really anyone to help chapters develop. If you have a group
> of Wikipedians who want to set up a chapter, there are lots of challeng
On 18 March 2012 21:18, Thomas Morton wrote:
> Some further comments, having read the related pages in more depth:
>
> - To what legal body will the "duties" be paid?
The idea is that the council will be a new legal body.
> - What is the purpose of duties exactly (there seems no obvious use for
> So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize
> the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and
> apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that
> think this is a good idea?
Yes, there are lots of people that think this
Some further comments, having read the related pages in more depth:
- To what legal body will the "duties" be paid?
- What is the purpose of duties exactly (there seems no obvious use for
them by the council)?
As I can make out it is to set up committees, groups and projects and
chapter events -
Hmmm, whilst I certainly sympathise with the factions that prompted this, I
have to agree with Nathan that it is a saddening thing to see.
Governments are stifling, and this unfortunately is what appears to be
being proposed.
I recall a comment one of my favourite professors used to make which wa
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Nathan wrote:
> So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize
> the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and
> apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that
> think this is a good idea
Think of this more as the hub of a bicycle wheel with many spokes, rather than
a centralised body. A device that makes for quicker progress than walking
alone, but isn't a burdensome stone wheel.
Having a lightweight central organisation that can keep an eye on what is going
on, that can provid
Nathan, 18/03/2012 20:47:
So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize
the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and
apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that
think this is a good idea?
Yes because it is. And it
So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize
the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and
apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that
think this is a good idea?
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
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