Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Lodewijk
2010/9/22 Austin Hair > > > > Also the meeting notes mention "The first deliverable, a formal proposal > to > > the Board at its October meeting, was discussed. A first draft will be > sent > > to the workgroup in the next few days." - is this draft going to be > public > > as intended initially

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread whothis
oh I agree the entire process is so transparent...like mentioning the existence of the group 10 days after their first meet. That is the sort of thing I am talking about, the said group was formed already had its first meeting and you are announcing it now more than 10 days later, its almost t

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2010/9/23 Austin Hair : > If you have better ideas about how to go about the process, great! > Leave a note on the talk page where everyone can see it, and we'll go > from there. > I suggest to do some basic work on meta page of the committee: a) write a clear definition what "movement roles" mea

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, geni wrote: > On 22 September 2010 13:26, Austin Hair wrote: >> This process will be transparent, and open to input from anyone >> interested.  It's planned to take approximately one year, with regular >> milestones along the way. > > How do we stop it? > > Apart

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > thanks for sending around. Could you just give a link to where exactly on > the wiki you would "the discussion" (very broad term :) ) like to take > place? Which topics do you especially invite people to discuss /now/? Great questions, Lodewijk.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Bence Damokos
Dear All, I would just like to point out that this specific working group is dealing with the relationship of chapters, the Foundation and possible other forms of Wikimedia groups that have offline activities. In this sense, no outcome of the proposal put to the Board or the Charter that should co

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread geni
On 22 September 2010 13:26, Austin Hair wrote: > This process will be transparent, and open to input from anyone > interested.  It's planned to take approximately one year, with regular > milestones along the way. How do we stop it? Apart from the usual issues this looks like a textbook way of k

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Lodewijk
This group is talking about the Wikimedia organization, so it is no more than logical that people heavily involved in that will be the ones thinking about it. Besides that, although Austin did not mention that in this specific email, it has been pointed out every time when I spoke with people about

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread who this
why not throw in florence and aprhabhala into the mix and we can round up the same "advisory group" cabal. maybe they are in rotation for the next one.. anyway seeing the same names over and over again irked me and I decided to comment on the issue which like many other editors I try to avoid

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread who this
Lets see.. Austin- chapcom member/chair Arne Klempert-chapcom member Bence Damokos-chapcom member Samuel klein-chapcom member + many others Morgan Chan- communication committee(status unknown) bishkha datta- board member barry newstead-employee jon hugget-outside employee/contractor t

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Steven Walling
Anon, The percentage of community members interested in doing meta organizing and research for the movement as a whole will always be much smaller than those interested in working on a single project (or just a single task or subject within a project). It's a fact of life when it comes to any move

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread who this
Am I the only one or do people get the feeling that its the same people that keep showing up for these communities and groups. I do not see new community people, mostly outsiders, someone from the staff, and the same old cabal. when you gonna get some new people in there? anon editor On Wed, Se

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Austin, thanks for sending around. Could you just give a link to where exactly on the wiki you would "the discussion" (very broad term :) ) like to take place? Which topics do you especially invite people to discuss /now/? Also the meeting notes mention "The first deliverable, a formal proposa

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

2010-09-22 Thread Austin Hair
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees has commissioned a year-long effort to clarify the roles of various stakeholders in the movement, with the final goal of developing a "Wikimedia Charter"—a document where the roles and responsibilities within the Wikimedia organization are clearly defined