Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/6/25 John at Darkstar : > Could there be some updates to > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation as this > page says the roll-out will start at 15. June, while > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2009-June/000959.html > says new messages are to be roll

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-25 Thread John at Darkstar
Could there be some updates to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation as this page says the roll-out will start at 15. June, while http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2009-June/000959.html says new messages are to be rolled out "as early as Monday, June 29". I

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/6/18 Brian : > What do you consider to be "new content" ? Newly started articles, or new > edits? Either. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Brian
What do you consider to be "new content" ? Newly started articles, or new edits? On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/6/18 Brian : > > It's more than a concession isn't it? The GFDL has the "or any later > > version" clause. The CC-BY-SA is not a later version of the GFDL

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/6/18 Brian : > It's more than a concession isn't it? The GFDL has the "or any later > version" clause. The CC-BY-SA is not a later version of the GFDL. I think we > have to keep it forever and ever. Existing content will always be available under the GFDL regardless of what the WMF does, the

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Brian
It's more than a concession isn't it? The GFDL has the "or any later version" clause. The CC-BY-SA is not a later version of the GFDL. I think we have to keep it forever and ever. On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/6/18 Stephen Bain : > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:00 AM

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/6/18 Stephen Bain : > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: >> >> Because the GFDL is only of interest to a minority of >> re-users, > ... > > If this is the Foundation's view, why did it opt to push for (hobbled) > dual-licencing going forward, instead of transitioning complete

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Bain
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > Because the GFDL is only of interest to a minority of > re-users, ... If this is the Foundation's view, why did it opt to push for (hobbled) dual-licencing going forward, instead of transitioning completely to CC-BY-SA and retaining GFDL onl

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/6/18 Erik Moeller : > 2009/6/18 Thomas Dalton : >> That seems reasonable to me, but I would say "alternative terms" >> rather than "additional terms". Additional terms suggests you have to >> follow them in addition to the CC ones, which isn't the case. > > The logic behind "additional" is tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/6/18 Thomas Dalton : > That seems reasonable to me, but I would say "alternative terms" > rather than "additional terms". Additional terms suggests you have to > follow them in addition to the CC ones, which isn't the case. The logic behind "additional" is that the phrase says "text is under

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/6/18 Erik Moeller : > 2009/6/18 Walter Vermeir : >> When I look at the updated en.wikipedia.org and [[meta:Licensing >> update/Implementation]] page I see that site footer only states that the >> text is licensed under the "Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike >> License". >> >> No mention

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/6/18 Walter Vermeir : > When I look at the updated en.wikipedia.org and [[meta:Licensing > update/Implementation]] page I see that site footer only states that the > text is licensed under the "Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike > License". > > No mention anymore of the good old GNU/FDL.

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-18 Thread Walter Vermeir
Erik Moeller schreef: [cut] > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation > > Our site-wide roll-out will likely override any project-local > bottom-up implementation between now and then. Question; >From the Q&A about this; http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/D

[Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009-06-15 Thread Erik Moeller
As per the licensing update decision by the community and the Board, I've updated the site terms on the English Wikipedia (and the WMF website) today, and posted a reference copy of the site-wide terms of use to: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use The Wikimedia Commons licensing tas