Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread John Vandenberg
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> On 19 February 2012 18:06, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen >> wrote: >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) >>> wrote: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, 19/02/2012 08:12: > Do the people at MeatballWiki know? Why s

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 19/02/2012 4:25 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: With a bot (or AWB) going through the What Links Here list for your user page. People have done that before (although maybe not if they had ten thousand comments to change). Yes, and on enwp at least the one time I remember this having been attempte

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 February 2012 20:13, Fred Bauder wrote: > How can we remove ten thousand comments and signatures using the users > real name or well-known handle? With a bot (or AWB) going through the What Links Here list for your user page. People have done that before (although maybe not if they had ten

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> On 19 February 2012 18:06, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen >> wrote: >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) >>> wrote: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, 19/02/2012 08:12: > Do the people at MeatballWiki know? Why

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread Fred Bauder
> On 19 February 2012 18:06, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) >> wrote: >>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, 19/02/2012 08:12: >>> Do the people at MeatballWiki know? >>> >>> >>> Why should they care? >>> >> >> This is where it all started, >> >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 February 2012 18:06, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: >> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, 19/02/2012 08:12: >> >>> Do the people at MeatballWiki know? >> >> >> Why should they care? >> > > This is where it all started, > > http://meatballwi

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, 19/02/2012 08:12: > >> Do the people at MeatballWiki know? > > > Why should they care? > This is where it all started, http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/RightToLeave -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Av

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, 19/02/2012 08:12: Do the people at MeatballWiki know? Why should they care? I don't know if this has already been mentioned somewhere: http://googlepolicyeurope.blogspot.com/2012/02/our-thoughts-on-right-to-be-forgotten.html It's a very cautious comment I think. Nemo

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-18 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:25:56 -0700 (MST), "Fred Bauder" > wrote: >> I think the biggest problems might involve users who have been trashed >> for one reason or another, justified or not. >> >> Fred >> > > My understanding is that the legislation is not so much about users > (which > we can handl

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:25:56 -0700 (MST), "Fred Bauder" wrote: > I think the biggest problems might involve users who have been trashed > for one reason or another, justified or not. > > Fred > My understanding is that the legislation is not so much about users (which we can handle anyway), but

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Fred Bauder
I think the biggest problems might involve users who have been trashed for one reason or another, justified or not. Fred > Is the worry primarily around article-space, or around Wikipedia users? > There's already > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Courtesy_vanishing, though it > would have

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Risker, 11/02/2012 18:45: The greatest challenge with the entire notion of vanishing is that it is intended to be permanent. That is, the person who wants to vanish should not return in the future, under any guise. [...] I don't think it's useful to discuss this. It's certainly not to the poin

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Risker
The greatest challenge with the entire notion of vanishing is that it is intended to be permanent. That is, the person who wants to vanish should not return in the future, under any guise. I cannot speak for any other project here, but I know that there has been a non-negligible amount of disruptio

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Delirium
Is the worry primarily around article-space, or around Wikipedia users? There's already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Courtesy_vanishing, though it would have to be made somewhat more rigorous (and no longer a mere courtesy) if it were an actual legal obligation. As a non-lawyer, I w

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-10 Thread Samuel Klein
Forwarding from internal. The right to vanish... or a part of it... proposed as law. -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Symonds Date: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM Subject: [Internal-l] Right to be Forgotten To: interna...@lists.wikimedia.org http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technolog