On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Birgitte SB wrote:
> The foundation is not really like en.WP bumped up another level. We rarely
> get into policing such issues on this mailing list and that is nowhere near
> past tolerance levels, because of among other things features in this medium
> that ar
--- On Fri, 7/24/09, stevertigo wrote:
> From: stevertigo
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing list
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 2:56 PM
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM,
> Chad
> wrote:
>
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:12 PM, stevertigo wrote:
> I started a thread on Wikien-l last month suggesting we start a
> dispute resolution mailing list:
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2009-June/101428.html
>
> Responses were largely positive, and what little criticism the idea
> got
No, really, you need to discuss this on wikien-l instead of here. This
has been explained to you by multiple people on multiple occasions. I'd
suggest someone enforce that if need be.
Thanks,
-Mike
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 12:24 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Chad wrot
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:56 PM, stevertigo wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Chad wrote:
>
>
> > I'm speaking as a volunteer: go away, and take your thread with you.
> > It is /not/ appropriate for foundation-l, period.
> >
> > It is obvious to everyone that this thread exists for solel
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Chad wrote:
> I'm speaking as a volunteer: go away, and take your thread with you.
> It is /not/ appropriate for foundation-l, period.
>
> It is obvious to everyone that this thread exists for solely one reason:
> for you to bitch and moan when you didn't get wha
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:48 PM, stevertigo wrote:
> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> What do you not understand ?
> That is not for you to say.
>
>> It has been explained to you that the en approach is not compatible with
>> what happens elsewhere.
> What does this even mean? Nothing has been "explained
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> What do you not understand ?
That is not for you to say.
> It has been explained to you that the en approach is not compatible with what
> happens elsewhere.
What does this even mean? Nothing has been "explained." Terse and
useless "go away's" do not suffice as explanatio
Hoi,
What do you not understand ? It has been explained to you that the en
approach is not compatible with what happens elsewhere. This list is
explicitly NOT about the en policies. You have been politely asked to go
away.. Now what does it take for you to move on with this nonsense ?
Thanks,
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Chad wrote:
> Pedro pretty much outlined my views already. I was going to write
> a point-by-point rebuttal as to why this doesn't belong on foundation-l,
> but I decided not to. Honestly, I thought it was pretty damn obvious
> that this doesn't belong on foundati
Pedro Sanchez commented on a few of my points, but mistakenly removed
my byline, making Yaroslav look like the author. These are responses
to Pedro's comments.
Pedro Sanchez wrote:
> And english wikipedia has several mailing lists to deal with its own issues.
> Foundation-l is for wikimedia-wide
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, stevertigo wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Chad wrote:
>
>> I don't care who's proposing it, to be honest. My issue is that
>> this thread does not belong on foundation-l, which others seem
>> to agree since I first said so some 14 posts ago. Take it back
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Chad wrote:
> I don't care who's proposing it, to be honest. My issue is that
> this thread does not belong on foundation-l, which others seem
> to agree since I first said so some 14 posts ago. Take it back
> to wikien-l, /please/.
If you could offer some actual
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, stevertigo wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
>> Well, if the list is for general dispute resolution technique, it could be
>> valuable to all projects.
>
> Its a very simple idea, and one which sort of fills a role that
> wikien-l pl
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
> Well, if the list is for general dispute resolution technique, it could be
> valuable to all projects.
Its a very simple idea, and one which sort of fills a role that
wikien-l played for years, and for which there are several disjointed
o
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM,
> > Mike.lifeguard wrote:
> >> I'm sorry, this is really not something that needs discussion on
> >> foundation-l. This concerns English Wikipedia, and not the wider
> >> Wikimedia community or the Fou
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM,
> Mike.lifeguard wrote:
>> I'm sorry, this is really not something that needs discussion on
>> foundation-l. This concerns English Wikipedia, and not the wider
>> Wikimedia community or the Foundation itself. Please consider moving
>> this discussion back to the p
Well, if the list is for general dispute resolution technique, it could be
valuable to all projects.
From: Mike.lifeguard
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:06:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM,
Mike.lifeguard wrote:
> I'm sorry, this is really not something that needs discussion on
> foundation-l. This concerns English Wikipedia, and not the wider
> Wikimedia community or the Foundation itself. Please consider moving
> this discussion back to the project-s
I'm sorry, this is really not something that needs discussion on
foundation-l. This concerns English Wikipedia, and not the wider
Wikimedia community or the Foundation itself. Please consider moving
this discussion back to the project-specific mailing list or the project
itself so to the community
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:26 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/7/23 Geoffrey Plourde :
>
>> Nothing prevents you from starting your own mailing list if Cary won't. As I
>> am not a member of the wikien cesspool, what purpose are you thinking of?
>
>
> wikien-l is full of useful and relevant stuff abo
2009/7/23 Geoffrey Plourde :
> Nothing prevents you from starting your own mailing list if Cary won't. As I
> am not a member of the wikien cesspool, what purpose are you thinking of?
wikien-l is full of useful and relevant stuff about en:wp. It's not
very cesspooly these days, really! Mostly.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
> Nothing prevents you from starting your own mailing list if Cary won't. As I
> am not a member of the wikien cesspool, what purpose are you thinking of?
>
Why don't you go have a peek at the archives instead of bringing what
you character
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing list
Cary Bass wrote:
> You have not gained any additional support.
Open discussion is of course the first step in gaining support.
We've been waiting for your participation, as you seem to be the
functionary in charge of start
Cary Bass wrote:
> You have not gained any additional support.
Open discussion is of course the first step in gaining support.
We've been waiting for your participation, as you seem to be the
functionary in charge of starting new lists. Now that you are
participating in an open discussion, we ca
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Cary Bass wrote:
> Mailing lists don't get opened by mailing list discussions
Hm. I also filed a request on mediazilla, which was automatically
assigned to you.
> and the "largely positive" responses you received were neither > numerous nor
> meritorious of cre
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Chad wrote:
> Not sure what this has to do with foundation-l, can this go back to wikien-l?
Thomas' comment was a bit off-topic, but that does not mean this
entire thread belongs elsewhere. There are at least four reasons why
this discussion belongs here. If you
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/7/23 stevertigo :
>> That actually wasn't my proposal to "resolve" disputes there. On the
>> other hand, if a report to ANI or RFC receives attention that solves
>> certain problems, then does that mean you would object to the usage of
>>
2009/7/23 stevertigo :
> That actually wasn't my proposal to "resolve" disputes there. On the
> other hand, if a report to ANI or RFC receives attention that solves
> certain problems, then does that mean you would object to the usage of
> ANI or RFC to "resolve disputes?"
ANI and RFC *are* part o
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> Responses were rather mixed - there were different proposals
> being bounced around.
There weren't any "different proposals." Aside from suggestions taht
dealt with the scope such a list would take, there was a brief
suggestion for a separa
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> I started a th
2009/7/23 stevertigo :
> I started a thread on Wikien-l last month suggesting we start a
> dispute resolution mailing list:
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2009-June/101428.html
>
> Responses were largely positive, and what little criticism the idea
> got (much of it from Thomas Dal
I started a thread on Wikien-l last month suggesting we start a
dispute resolution mailing list:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2009-June/101428.html
Responses were largely positive, and what little criticism the idea
got (much of it from Thomas Dalton) was fairly easy to deal with.
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