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From: "George Herbert"
To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Ban and moderate
> Both were banned from English language Wikipedia and (I believe) other
> projects,
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Cary Bass wrote:
> On 10/22/2010 09:27 AM, Muhammad Yahia wrote:
> > I wonder if the couple
> > of points he was making were even worth it, we do have people who are
> > capable of presenting criticism in a civil manner, so it's not about
> > 'opinion'. I believe
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Anthony wrote:
> I would think the people who think this list is useless have already
> unsubscribed.
>
I'm still here. I stay subscribed for the lulz.
-Chad
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On 10/22/2010 09:27 AM, Muhammad Yahia wrote:
> I wonder if the couple
> of points he was making were even worth it, we do have people who are
> capable of presenting criticism in a civil manner, so it's not about
> 'opinion'. I believe WP:POINT and WP:GAME should apply to any medium we are
> tryin
I would think the people who think this list is useless have already
unsubscribed.
Can't please everyone.
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
> Hoi,
> People who appreciate an upgrade from totally useless... obviously...
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 22 October 2010 14:27, A
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Marc Riddell
wrote:
> Has either of these persons, Greg or Peter, been destructive of the
> substance of the Project: the body of the Encyclopedia?
Yes, in my opinion.
Both were banned from English language Wikipedia and (I believe) other
projects, for content an
Austin Hair, you have very recently publicly stated: "Greg Kohs went beyond
being merely critical (which is welcome, and even encouraged) to the point
of being antisocial and counterproductive."
This is in follow-up to calling him "completely unable" to keep
contributions "civil".
In the past, D
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
>
> If you are counting votes, please count mine for moderation.
+1.
Although I am not privy to all of Mr. Koh's engagements with the
community, he has certainly made himself notorious for polemical
disruption over various Wikimedia pr
I support the list admins in making this assessment. I dont think it is very
productive to then discuss every assessment on this list. So if we agree
that moderation might be necessary under certain circumstances, if we agree
what circumstances those are and who should be the list admins (or at lea
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:54 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 22 October 2010 08:19, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
>
> > If you are counting votes, please count mine for moderation.
>
>
> +1
>
> Seriously, this list is commonly referred to as "troll-l" and lots of
> chapter people refuse to even look
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Marc Riddell
wrote:
> I am listening, and do hear what you are saying, Fred. But banishment from
> something, whether it be from a working project or a country, means that
> person is being openly, or even surreptitiously, destructive of the body,
> the substance,
> on 10/22/10 10:11 AM, Fred Bauder at fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
> This is a public list for discussion of matters which concern and affect
> the Wikimedia Foundation. It is open to supporters and critics of our
> projects; to novices and old hands.
>
I am listening, and do hear what you are
On 22/10/2010 08:54, David Gerard wrote:
> On 22 October 2010 08:19, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
>
>> If you are counting votes, please count mine for moderation.
>
>
> +1
>
Are you both asking to be put on moderation or to be banned>
> Seriously, this list is commonly referred to as "troll-l"
> To what "use" are you talking about, Gerard; groupthink-l?
>
> Marc Riddell
This is a public list for discussion of matters which concern and affect
the Wikimedia Foundation. It is open to supporters and critics of our
projects; to novices and old hands.
Fred
On 22 October 2010 14:14, Marc Riddell wrote:
> on 10/22/10 8:49 AM, Gerard Meijssen at gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
>> People who appreciate an upgrade from totally useless... obviously...
> To what "use" are you talking about, Gerard; groupthink-l?
Your answer appears to have fallen prey
on 10/22/10 8:49 AM, Gerard Meijssen at gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hoi,
> People who appreciate an upgrade from totally useless... obviously...
> Thanks,
> GerardM
To what "use" are you talking about, Gerard; groupthink-l?
Marc Riddell
> On 22 October 2010 14:27, Anthony wrote:
>
>>
Hoi,
People who appreciate an upgrade from totally useless... obviously...
Thanks,
GerardM
On 22 October 2010 14:27, Anthony wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:54 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> > Seriously, this list is commonly referred to as "troll-l" and lots of
> > chapter people refuse to
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:54 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> Seriously, this list is commonly referred to as "troll-l" and lots of
> chapter people refuse to even look at it. Pulling it out of the mire
> might make it even slightly useful again.
Who want's a list that's slightly useful?
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On 22 October 2010 08:19, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> If you are counting votes, please count mine for moderation.
+1
Seriously, this list is commonly referred to as "troll-l" and lots of
chapter people refuse to even look at it. Pulling it out of the mire
might make it even slightly useful a
If you are counting votes, please count mine for moderation.
Cheers
Yaroslav
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 02:23:16 +0100, "Virgilio A. P. Machado"
wrote:
> Three days after the announcement made by Austin Hair on behalf of
> this list administrators, which also includes Ral315 and
> AlexandrDmitri, th
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:58 PM, K. Peachey wrote:
> I don't remember seeing any comments or discussion on that matter,
> care to point them out?
They are mostly in the thread 'Greg Kohs and Peter Damian'
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-October/061638.html
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
> Three days after the announcement made by Austin Hair on behalf of
> this list administrators, which also includes Ral315 and
> AlexandrDmitri, that Greg Kohs was banned and Peter Damian moderated,
> this much has been accomplished b
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado
wrote:
> Three days after the announcement made by Austin Hair on behalf of
> this list administrators, which also includes Ral315 and
> AlexandrDmitri, that Greg Kohs was banned and Peter Damian moderated,
> this much has been accomplished
Three days after the announcement made by Austin Hair on behalf of
this list administrators, which also includes Ral315 and
AlexandrDmitri, that Greg Kohs was banned and Peter Damian moderated,
this much has been accomplished by about 41 posts on that subject:
1) Austin Hair, Ral315, and Alexan
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