On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:54 AM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 22 October 2010 08:19, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru> wrote: > > > If you are counting votes, please count mine for moderation. > > > +1 > > Seriously, this list is commonly referred to as "troll-l" and lots of > chapter people refuse to even look at it. Pulling it out of the mire > might make it even slightly useful again. > > > +1 from me too. I would also like to add that labeling someone a troll doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't provide good criticism, it's just that he presents it in the most time consuming and destructive way possible. I am personally interested in some of the criticism Kohs put forward, but I am against his tactics. We had a troll on ar.wp who was pretty similar in tactics, it took months of debate about freedom and censorship etc. and a few good editors actually quitting before we banned him. And it took a few more months of sock-puppeting for him to actually give up, and looking back at this humongous waste of the time for all parties involved, I wonder if the couple of points he was making were even worth it, we do have people who are capable of presenting criticism in a civil manner, so it's not about 'opinion'. I believe WP:POINT and WP:GAME should apply to any medium we are trying to constructively work together. -- Best Regards, Muhammad Yahia _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l