Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-03-03 Thread Robert Rohde
the wiki editors had noticed this apparent change of status during the last 3.5 years. -Robert Rohde [1] http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=241541 (English version) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Rohde
he rights of copyright for the individuals end at the border of Iran, period." At least some of the Wikipedia commenters seem prepared to draw a hard line on this issue with no exceptions. Personally, I'd like to believe that we as a community are m

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Rohde
emails on this thread. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Rohde
t the very least such templates need to be consistent with Berne / US laws regarding the treatment of content from non-treaty states. In my opinion, the larger ethical issues still deserve further consideration though. -Robert Rohde On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 2/2

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Rohde
ver, the one thing that is clear though is that any claim to public domain status due to the lack of copyright relations needs to address all three factors raised above. John, can you raise these concerns at Wikisource? -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l

[Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Rohde
surrounding copyright and reuse, and a change like this could set a precedent for what we ultimately do on the other projects. -Robert Rohde [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-August/027373.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Copyrights#Usage_

Re: [Foundation-l] Smurfs Movie is infringing on wikipedia copyright

2011-12-17 Thread Robert Rohde
has. So, it seems like it might not even be a real screenshot of Wikipedia, but rather a page that had been further edited for their purposes. For example, they easily could have swapped in a public domain image of the moon from NASA. -Robert Rohde On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Kim Bruning

Re: [Foundation-l] A possible solution for the image filter

2011-09-22 Thread Robert Rohde
hat this was one of the major underlying motivations. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible solution for image filter

2011-09-21 Thread Robert Rohde
filters, and whether having a filter that is sort-of-okay some of the time would be helpful to the people who want filtering. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] "All human knowledge", by Jimmy Wales (?)

2011-09-16 Thread Robert Rohde
In part, I think our perceptions of that famous quote have been evolving alongside our perceptions of what Wikimedia and Wikipedia have become. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Commons as an art gallery?

2011-05-16 Thread Robert Rohde
no claim to notability at all. In general, "notability" has very little to do with Commons at any level. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-05 Thread Robert Rohde
ner size (or even smaller). And by seriously consider, I mean testing what the impact is likely to be, and have a conversation about whether a somewhat longer campaign is a worthwhile trade-off for less annoying banners. -Robert Rohde [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde

Re: [Foundation-l] some worries about fundraiser and editor appeals boycotting it

2010-12-07 Thread Robert Rohde
ible to do so and there is no need to panic. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] 5M by 2 weeks

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Rohde
. In addition, the communication with the community about the fundraiser seems to have improved over previous years. So great work guys. Keep it up. -Robert Rohde On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Przykuta wrote: > :] > > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserStatistic

Re: [Foundation-l] Left on the Table

2010-11-06 Thread Robert Rohde
cebook and $1500 M suggested by this look at About.com. Personally, I believe the truth would probably be closer to the high end than the low end, largely because About would seem to be a better analog of what we do than Facebook is. But I also think

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Audited Financial Statements for 2009-10 Fiscal Year Now Available

2010-10-30 Thread Robert Rohde
a million anon accounts do edit. However, the number of anon accounts with at least 5 edits in any particular month is definitely not millions, it is several tens of thousands. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Un

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Audited Financial Statements for 2009-10 Fiscal Year Now Available

2010-10-27 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:06 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > > Are you sure these are not accounted for in stats.wm.org? > Yes. The current Wikimedia Stats (stats.wikimedia.org) do not count anons towards any of the metrics that measure "Wikipedians" or "active contr

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Audited Financial Statements for 2009-10 Fiscal Year Now Available

2010-10-27 Thread Robert Rohde
r community who only edit anonymously. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Mike Godwin leaves the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Rohde
I would also like to add my gratitude to Mike for his years of useful service. It is hard to imagine who could be a suitable replacement. -Robert Rohde On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Ting Chen wrote: > Again Kat found the right words. Thank you very much Mike for all the > works yo

Re: [Foundation-l] Page views

2010-10-17 Thread Robert Rohde
a.com/siteinfo/wikipedia.org -Robert Rohde On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Joan Goma wrote: > Is there any explanation for the extraordinary jump in page views this > month? > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm > __

Re: [Foundation-l] Increasing the number of new accounts who actually edit

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Rohde
rt initiatives that reach out to and help the very newest users. Exactly what kinds of support we provide will likely vary depending on what issues are determined to be most common, but regardless of the details, I think this is a very important avenue for outreach and growth. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Increasing the number of new accounts who actually edit

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Rohde
editing" account on another project. Circa last May, roughly 15% of new EN wikipedia accounts were being created by SUL cross-overs. Even if you assume that none of these were to engage in editing, it still means that at least 80% of the unused accounts were created via lo

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Rohde
veral cases where well known newspapers and magazines appropriated my images without attempting to contact me (and in some cases even without providing any attribution). It does leave me to wonder how many other times my images might have been used professionally and/or improperly and I just don

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Rohde
that archive web content is a good one, but I don't know that IA is really in a position to be all that useful. -Robert Rohde On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:57 AM, emijrp wrote: > Hi all; > > I want to make a proposal about external links preservation. Many times, > when you check an e

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy policy, statistics and rankings

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Rohde
ave a more restrictive privacy policy governing their own content, then that seems fine, but I suspect they would have a difficult uphill battle to extend that decision beyond their own immediate sphere of influence. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Robert Rohde
Er, I mean: "I think it would feel less imposing and more friendly to have a smaller banner THAT ran longer." Silly typo. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.o

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Robert Rohde
coupled to a longer campaign and accomplish the same effect as a big banner with a shorter campaign. Personally, I think it would feel less imposing and more friendly to have a smaller banner than ran longer. That's just my two cents. -Robert Rohde ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread Robert Rohde
makes the files more easily scalable (and more compatible with SVG in general), but it also makes the sensation of depth less realistic. Is this a deliberate choice, and if so, why? -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Robert Rohde
bolder, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#New_logo -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Spectrum of views (was Re: Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening)

2010-05-11 Thread Robert Rohde
ld not forget the potential to harm the people in the images. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Towards actual clean-up...

2010-05-09 Thread Robert Rohde
e can get an idea of what the issue is and consider the best ways to address it. I've compiled the list at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:List_of_genitalia_for_review (There are actually only 411 on the list, as I dropped 14 after my editor mangled

Re: [Foundation-l] Potential ICRA labels for Wikipedia

2010-05-09 Thread Robert Rohde
ontent filtering standard that some segment of the community wants to support, then I'm perfectly happy to see that happen. -Robert Rohde On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: > This message is CC'ed to other people who might wish to comment on this > potenti

[Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

2010-05-07 Thread Robert Rohde
express a position on the appropriate use of sexual content? -Robert Rohde [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales [2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Cleanup_policy (and following sections) [3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Sexual_conten

Re: [Foundation-l] Swedish Wikipedians removes Wikimedia logos

2010-03-30 Thread Robert Rohde
ho > will. Anything that is rendered as page content will appear in the export dumps and needs to be considered by reusers, which includes those navigational templates. The logo at the upper left is different in that regard since it isn't part of the dumps. -Robert Rohde _

Re: [Foundation-l] Swedish Wikipedians removes Wikimedia logos

2010-03-29 Thread Robert Rohde
-by-Wikimedia templates, but we can go and fix that. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Swedish Wikipedians removes Wikimedia logos

2010-03-29 Thread Robert Rohde
go in part because of the desire to avoid a copyrighted logo. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] sell wikipedia

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Rohde
would be. It is all heavily compressed to make it fit in the space available, but that's entirely reversible of course. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-19 Thread Robert Rohde
nowledged that we are unlikely to ever really know whether this particular image was child porn unless the uploader chooses to confess. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Robert Rohde
e than written assurances that everything is okay, and I don't see why we couldn't ask for the same thing here. And, in the unfortunate event that things aren't okay, we would be able to point a specific individual who misled us rath

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Robert Rohde
downsides to allowing such collections grow far beyond the applications we have for them. -Robert Rohde [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Privatemusings/ImagesUsedInVideoPresentation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Advisory Board chairperson

2010-01-08 Thread Robert Rohde
nated. Based on the fact that all references to such a position have been eliminated from that page, I would suspect that the position no longer exists. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsub

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:05 AM, geni wrote: >> There is one point left. We can't measure the change in traffic to >> Craigslist but we can measure this: >> >> http://stats.grok.se/en/200912/Craigslist >

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Rohde
http://stats.grok.se/en/200912/Craig%20Newmark -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-14 Thread Robert Rohde
The banner can be seen at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/view&template=2009_Craig_Appeal1 -Robert Rohde On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > care to give some context to your question? > > [[witty lama]] > > wittylama.com

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Robert Rohde
to have a board resolution that said, in essence, "Wikimedia should take reasonable and cost-effective steps to reduce or offset its carbon footprint and other impacts on the environment"? Assuming the Board and the executive director can share a similar idea of what is "reasonable"

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Robert Rohde
that Milos was discussing in the start of the thread (unless I misunderstood something myself). Yes, there are other scenarios we have to deal with, and perhaps some of them could in fact be helped by the development of standardized permission forms, but I was never suggesting

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Robert Rohde
that in some ways it runs counter to Milos's complaint, since it requires a new process rather than cutting out bureaucracy per se. However, I think having a fixed and standardized approach for free content releases would ultimately cut down on

Re: [Foundation-l] DMCA on Google

2009-11-10 Thread Robert Rohde
the only people empowered to make such infringement claims are the specific authors of the article being infringed. So, for each article you wanted to take down, you would need to find at least one major contributor to that specific article who was willing to file the infring

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread Robert Rohde
to experiment and try some ideas to see what sticks. -Robert rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] New Fundraising Staff: Megan Hernandez

2009-11-05 Thread Robert Rohde
social changes that occur to individuals over the course of a single human lifetime. Good for understanding people's wants, needs, and expectations. -Robert Rohde PS. Welcome Megan. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-04 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM, wrote: > >  How do you determine the number of views a particular Wikipedia page has > received? http://stats.grok.se/en/200910/Colorado%20Balloon%20Incident -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list fou

Re: [Foundation-l] Growth vs. maintenance

2009-11-04 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > >> At the root, I think that Wikipedia is something of a victim of it's >> own success.  We've written the largest encyclopedia in history, >> become a hou

[Foundation-l] Growth vs. maintenance

2009-11-04 Thread Robert Rohde
;ve become resistant to it. I'm wondering whether other people at the Foundation-l level perceive the same trends, and what they think about the balance between innovation and growth versus simply maintaining and solidifying the processes and products that we already have. -Robert Rohde ___

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Annual Fundraiser starts November 10th, UTC]

2009-11-04 Thread Robert Rohde
sense) both used that general format, and I hope we aim to replicate that again this year. -Robert Rohde On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Cary Bass wrote: > Trying one more time.  Seems to have disconnected from my previous message. > > Original Message > Subject:    

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Robert Rohde
latter gives direct information about participation, while the former gives a convolution of participation data with information about how people perceive their own participation. Either approach can be useful, but which one is used should be determined by a clear understanding of what it is the surv

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-10-14 Thread Robert Rohde
urce of their books, and then continue as is. At its core though, the fact that Wikipedia works can be repackaged and sold is a feature of the free content movement. If the implications of that are sometimes disturbing then either we need accept the unintended consequences as a necessary evil, o

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [openmoko-announce] WikiReader

2009-10-13 Thread Robert Rohde
ent a content filter, but I don't know. In terms of kid safety though, I think the biggest points are probably A) that it is not connected to the scary scary internet, and B) it is only text. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing li

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [openmoko-announce] WikiReader

2009-10-13 Thread Robert Rohde
problems, but I'll assume that those were fixed in the intervening months. Anyway, this appears to be a good way to increase Wikipedia's reach by giving it physical form. Good luck to Openmoko. -Robert Rohde On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > -- Forw

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours ... the concept of time zones

2009-09-30 Thread Robert Rohde
is probably the most that it is reasonable to ask of the staff as an ongoing commitment. -Robert Rohde On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Waerth wrote: > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> 2009/9/30 Waerth : >> >>> Basically if there is room for two sets of office hours it should

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-22 Thread Robert Rohde
#x27;s stamp of approval or funding. I suspect that many such things, if they are truly worth doing and well supported by the larger community, would actually get implemented long before the Foundation gets around to endorsing a long-term plan. It would probably be a good idea for someone to start

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Promotion and Job Opening

2009-09-17 Thread Robert Rohde
re rarely made during the public campaigns (and make up only a small fraction of the campaign totals), and yet at the same time it is too small to have gotten the same level of attention that might go into soliciting a major foundation for $100k+ grant. -Robert Rohde __

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedian image restorations exploited on eBay

2009-09-16 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Sage Ross wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Robert Rohde wrote: >> >> It is settled case law in the US that restorations are not >> copyrightable as they lack sufficient originality.  The intent is to >> create a slavish copy

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedian image restorations exploited on eBay

2009-09-15 Thread Robert Rohde
as the UK) which place a greater emphasis on effort in determining eligibility for copyright. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Creative Commons publishes report on defining "Non-commercial", Is Wikpedia non commercial?

2009-09-15 Thread Robert Rohde
crosoft has no rights that novel, even if the copy of Word I used was completely stolen. They could sue me for the cost of the lost revenue if I am not using a properly licensed copy of their software, but they would have no direct claims over the intellectual works I

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

2009-09-11 Thread Robert Rohde
to make it efficient, but the underlying idea is simple. Locating nearby articles (and geocoded images) could have a lot of uses. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

2009-09-11 Thread Robert Rohde
dress some of this, but shoehorning everything into a "book" model doesn't really make sense either. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

2009-09-11 Thread Robert Rohde
ither by us or by Wikia and similar third parties. -Robert Rohde On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:24 AM, oscar wrote: > On 9/9/09, Michael Peel wrote: >> >> On 2 Sep 2009, at 12:35, David Goodman wrote: >> >>> There is sufficient missing material in  every Wikipedia, suffi

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Rohde
uld never be 100% secure, but one could take steps (such as a per user / thread reply-to addresses) to reduce the opportunities for impersonation. I would suggest that the optimal solution is probably a system that is mostly a forum but has a few email features as well rather than th

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Rohde
t in place. In any event, I think we could probably set up a system that provided more flexible control over threads and users without necessarily sacrificing the convenience of email for people that prefer that approach. And of course, people who

Re: [Foundation-l] Frequency of Seeing Bad Versions - now with traffic data

2009-08-28 Thread Robert Rohde
thers is offensive and not in keeping with the collaborative spirit necessary to run WMF projects. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Frequency of Seeing Bad Versions - now with traffic data

2009-08-28 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > Robert, is it possible to share the source for generating the > revert-based stats with other folks who may be interested in pursuing > further work on the subject? Thanks! Not as a complete stand-alone entity. The analysis framework I thro

Re: [Foundation-l] Frequency of Seeing Bad Versions - now with traffic data

2009-08-27 Thread Robert Rohde
us with respect to actual editing behaviors. Maybe our concern for ensuring accuracy and addressing vandalism has grown, but the scale of the underlying problem of incoming vandalism appears to be more or less constant. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Frequency of Seeing Bad Versions - now with traffic data

2009-08-27 Thread Robert Rohde
is such that the bad content is more likely to be seen than suggested by the uniform weighting. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation

2009-08-26 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: >> However, in this case, even if we >> assume the seat was outright "bought" for $2M, I don't think there are > > I'm not sure why people are

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation

2009-08-26 Thread Robert Rohde
deal world, maybe we'd never make deals like this, but in a pragmatic world, I don't think this particular deal will lead to much general outrage. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation

2009-08-25 Thread Robert Rohde
ay anything sooner. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] How much of Wikipedia is vandalized? 0.4% of Articles

2009-08-20 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Thomas Dalton >> wrote: >> > 2009/8/20 Anthony : >> >> I wouldn't suggest looking at the edit history at all,

Re: [Foundation-l] How much of Wikipedia is vandalized? 0.4% of Articles

2009-08-20 Thread Robert Rohde
ing issue with addressing vandalism, but there are a significant number of ways to commit vandalism that nonetheless have nothing to do with impairing the resulting article's accuracy. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] How much of Wikipedia is vandalized? 0.4% of Articles

2009-08-20 Thread Robert Rohde
t paying attention to it in particular, and all vandalism starts out that way. Perhaps it would be more useful if you think of this work as a characterization of revert statistics? Anyway, I provided my data point and described what I did so others could judge it for themselves. Regardless of your opinion, it addressed an issue of interest to me, and I would hope others also find some useful insight in it. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] How much of Wikipedia is vandalized? 0.4% of Articles

2009-08-20 Thread Robert Rohde
ikipedia as intended rather than in a vandalized state. (Though to be fair I didn't try to figure out if the vandalism occurred in more frequently visited parts or not.) Unfortunately, that's it for now as I need to get back to my thesis / job search. -Robert Rohde __

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-19 Thread Robert Rohde
Personally, I think the 2 articles in the Bengali Wikipedia serving a speaking community of 230 million is an even better example of failure. -Robert Rohde On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > Andrew Gray wrote: > >> For those curious as to overall statistics,

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiktionary logo competition makes b3ta

2009-08-14 Thread Robert Rohde
use there are unaffiliated with Mediawiki, the more difficult it would be to assert that it is a trademark representing Mediawiki. It is also unclear who would be in the position to authorize the use of such a trademark, i.e. who would own the rights to the mark. -Robert Rohde. PS. Since when did the f

Re: [Foundation-l] Knol, a year later

2009-08-10 Thread Robert Rohde
better analogy would be to think of Knol as the next Geocities. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Robert Rohde
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:34 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > I had forgotten that my bot gave me a second vote. Is that a joke? -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mail

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-07 Thread Robert Rohde
I would like to note that it isn't just internal naming schemes and/or industry conventions that matter. Brion is also engaged in a significant amount of interaction with external communities, including the volunteer developers and the Mediawiki user base. In that context, I think a de

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-07 Thread Robert Rohde
s a new boss). By contrast large corporations often have many people who are titled "Senior" this-or-that but are still relatively unimportant. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] How was the "only people who averaged two edits a week in the last six months can vote" rule decided?

2009-08-01 Thread Robert Rohde
make > sense to build a different project for those works. Not so. More printed works have been published in the last 70 years than the whole of human history preceding them. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Analysis of statistics

2009-07-26 Thread Robert Rohde
on of that. It seems unlikely in most cases. Besides which, there are many things we can be doing (such as improving the editing interface and documentation) that should widely benefit most groups of potential new editors. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] [Slashdot] Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad

2009-07-21 Thread Robert Rohde
ks into an interdependent whole should logically and legally be considered a derivative work rather than merely a collection of "separate and independent works" (quoting the license definition of a collection). Where the line between collection and derivative lies however tends to be

Re: [Foundation-l] Donation Button Enhancement : Part 2

2009-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
ng based on higher order bytes in the IP address and assuming those are fairly stable (e.g. using BBB mod 4 where the address is AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD). Neither approach is foolproof or totally without bias, but one can do fairly well. -Robert Rohde ___ f

Re: [Foundation-l] Donation Button Enhancement : Part 2

2009-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
tage over whichever one you test last. Probably the easiest way to get a reasonable distribution is to vary which button people see based on their IP. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections candidacy period time change

2009-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
ase people wanted to take similar steps on other wikis. Hopefully though some form of CentralNotice will be restored shortly. -Robert Rohde On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > As you may be aware, there is concern that the siten

[Foundation-l] CentralNotice and extending the Board Nomination period

2009-07-17 Thread Robert Rohde
something we can justify rushing through. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] A heads up

2009-07-16 Thread Robert Rohde
age preference based on the wiki they are reading. Obviously one would need a strategy for graceful language fallbacks when a user's preference was unavailable, but we have to do that in many other scenarios anyway. Making many languages available is a good thing, but formatting the page to hi

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the NationalPortrait Gallery ...

2009-07-12 Thread Robert Rohde
images appear to be 3 or 4 times larger in linear dimension than the largest view they currently make available. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-11 Thread Robert Rohde
Is it because they are potentially PD in the UK, but it's unclear? See: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag/Straw_Poll Especially the introductory comments. This has been handled as a special case. -Robert Rohde __

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-11 Thread Robert Rohde
different if 300 people were involved from the very beginning, but you aren't going to greatly alter the shape of things by involving an extra 300 people in this way after the fact. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@l

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-11 Thread Robert Rohde
hich you or anyone from the Wikiemedia Foundation have stored them) all images that you have derived from our client’s website" would really require not just the admin bit, but rather someone at the WMF going in and erasing the files directly so that they can never be undeleted

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-10 Thread Robert Rohde
initively not PD in the UK. It's not a sure thing, and comptent legal representation would no doubt make an important case out of it, but my reading of the commentaries in this area would such suggest that a victory by the NPG is entirely possible (and perhaps more likely than not) assu

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] On templates and programming languages

2009-07-06 Thread Robert Rohde
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > An idea that has been toyed with a couple of other places is to allow > defined blocks and references to them in article text.  For example: > > An article might start: > > > Thomas Jefferson was the third president...

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