Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates

2012-03-22 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Automated welcome message are tricky on the English Wikipedia, because it's a tricky place to figure out why someone is editing, and how to communicate with them. A large number of contributors with new accounts either do not have a native level of English, are editing just because they can, are e

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Joan Goma wrote: > > > The idea is that if they believe (or their marketing studies say) there is > a market for an encyclopedia reviewed by professionals I think that this is > not incompatible with free license. > > If it were published under a free license this

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > > I don't think that copying articles is the way to go. If the two projects > have separate articles on the same subjects that's still a very good thing. > They can still maintain their "professional" standards, whatever that > means. The re

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > > I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from > a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to > include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print > encyclopedias as a kid? I loved ency

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-03 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > Beyond wanting to drop the list a note about Niabot's idea, I also just > meant to ask the question that MZMcBride asked above. What is the status of > the image filter? Last year, we heard that in January, developers would > sift through t

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiQueer

2012-03-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Fae wrote: > The recently launched[4] WikiQueer website has a system for > transcluding Wikipedia content[1] and appears to have a background > negotiated with the Wikimedia Foundation. > > Can someone confirm the nature of any special relationship with the > websi

[Foundation-l] Eli Manning is a sporting MVP, and TMZ.com is stealing Wikipedia content

2012-02-07 Thread Keegan Peterzell
In the news on the English Wikipedia, Eli Manning was named most valuable player for Super Bowl XLVI. TMZ.com, a top 500 website and one of the most popular gossip websites in the world[1], is using English Wikipedia content without license or attribution for almost all of its immense biography dat

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout notice errors (English Wikipedia)

2012-01-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > > Or those with a slower CPU hence loading of the page. > > Nemo > > Or a slower modem, like Liam linked to six months ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9dpXHnJXaE -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan __

Re: [Foundation-l] According to Reuters, Wikipedia is an "online dictionary"

2012-01-17 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I like the comment at the bottom: "Alternative title 'RIAA/MPAA PR fails to afford anyone more influential than reuters'”. On Jan 17, 2012 9:30 PM, "Orionist" wrote: > A horrible piece of "journalism": > > http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/18/us-internet-protest-idUSTRE80H01U20120118 > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] just wondering, are we going to take down en.wikipedia.org?

2012-01-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:53 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > Have any museums, newspapers, or other cultural or political institutions > joined this effort? Is there any concern about further damage to > Wikipedia's > reputation and credibility as an academic resource when it behaves in the > same manner

Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

2012-01-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Pharos wrote: > I would pitch it as a simple appeal to edit the Wikipedia article on > your hometown (or home neighborhood if you're from a big city). > > In my experience, something like this has been attractive to a very > broad spectrum of people, and gives them

[Foundation-l] The Foundation's mission and fundraising pleas (was Blinky things)

2011-12-31 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Mark wrote: > > Of course, I'm not the best advocate in such situations, because I'm a > bit wary of the direction things are going myself, so tend to give a > sort of sheepish shrug in reply, and an explanation that a substantial > portion of the money (though per

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 2:59 AM, geni wrote: > We appear to have actual blinking ads. Unfortunate. Still I suppose > the occasion should be marked. > > -- > geni > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia

2011-12-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:40 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > > BTW, Vint Cerf, Paul Vixie and many others just signed a letter of > internet engineers opposing SOPA: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/top-internet-engineers-warn-against-sopa/2011/12/15/gIQAGRV4vO_blog.html > > -- pho

Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia

2011-12-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 04:04:36AM +, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > On Dec 15, 2011 3:20 AM, "Kim Bruning" wrote: > > > That, and remember that it is preferable to stage a protest BEFORE > > passage of > > > the bill. :-P > > > > I'm not sure

Re: [Foundation-l] MENA Education Program?

2011-11-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Muhammad Yahia wrote: > > I don't want to open a hornet's nest, but as someone who has actually lived > most of his life in the middle east, I couldn't disagree more. > > Local dialects/languages have not been formally adopted in any Arabic > speaking country that I

Re: [Foundation-l] MENA Education Program?

2011-11-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Barry Newstead wrote: > Hi Katie, > Just to build on Moushira's response to tackle your questions a bit > further. > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:26 AM, aude wrote: > > > Erik, Sue, Frank, et al, > > > > Can you please say more about the plans for a Middle East edu

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Newbie recruitment: referencing

2011-11-04 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > On 11/03/11 6:27 AM, Fae wrote: > > On 3 November 2011 12:27, David Gerard wrote: > >> Backlogs as a concern translate directly to "newbies are inherently a > >> problem." > > I don't get the point being made here, I would have thought that

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-29 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Brandon Harris wrote: > > On 10/29/11 8:36 PM, Jorgenev wrote: > > > > So far my only experience with extension:wikilove is having a new user > > prefer it to just editing my talk page, and so over the course of a > > mundane conversation about sourcing I earned m

Re: [Foundation-l] Given that we have won, can we turn Italian Wikipedia back on now?

2011-10-05 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law > > It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up > in Italy. > > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-10-01 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > (not responding to anyone in particular) I'm one of the people who tried to > participate in the discussion without taking a strong standpoint > (intentionally - because I'm quite nuanced on the issue, and open for good > arguments of either side)

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell > wrote: > > > http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/ > > Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please > > d

[Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/ Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please discuss the blog on the blog and not thread this too much back to conversation about the image filter. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan

Re: [Foundation-l] On curiosity, cats and scapegoats

2011-09-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 09:45:38AM -0400, Sydney Poore wrote: > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillarization > > > > > > Due to my knowing the historical context, I would actually prefer that > > > people were confronted by cultural d

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-13 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: > > > > 1) WikiLove has been enabled on Swedish, Malayalam, Hungarian, Hebrew, > > Arabic, and Hindi Wikipedia, as well as Commons, all on request of the > > respective project communities. > > > > > Uh oh - criticism time... > > WikiLove was

Re: [Foundation-l] On curiosity, cats and scapegoats

2011-09-12 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I didn't participate in the referendum. I understood from the beginning that this was going to be implimented, the matter of community opinion is nice to ask for but didn't really matter, and ultimately the only thing that comes of this is help answering Islamic users questioning us showing depict

Re: [Foundation-l] Hypothetical project rebranding Wikimedia

2011-09-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I also enjoy the photo with the guy pointing at the storyboard, and under awarness it has the point "put a face". -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://li

Re: [Foundation-l] Hypothetical project rebranding Wikimedia

2011-09-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:43 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 6:39 AM, FT2 wrote: >> > A more plausible option is to make WMF more conspicuous. Right now it's >> >

Re: [Foundation-l] Hypothetical project rebranding Wikimedia

2011-09-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:43 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 6:39 AM, FT2 wrote: > > A more plausible option is to make WMF more conspicuous. Right now it's > > almost unknown that WP is part of a wider project. > > > > " > > An educational website of the Wikimedia Foundation"

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Keegan Peterzell
If we didn't all know that Mike is probably following this thread, I think we would have reached Godwin's law a little while back. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubs

Re: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardener, Wikipedia's leading editor - wikileaks

2011-09-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > On 09/06/11 3:29 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > > Funny, These lines remind us that a lot of the "intelligence" work is > > nothing more than reading the newspaper. No much real "leaking", one > > might say. > > > > Obviously, those writers love

Re: [Foundation-l] EU Consultation on Open Access (deadline coming soon)

2011-09-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > > You can fill it in as a citizen, (which I did) Who, me? -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://li

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-05 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:11 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 5 September 2011 22:09, Stephen Bain wrote: > > > It indicated importance. The mean response to the first question of 5.7 > and > > the medium response of 6 points to the community considering it > moderately > > important that the feature

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 89, Issue 44

2011-08-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Robin McCain wrote: > > > Now the fun part - I buy a copy of that "new work". It has a new > copyright. Exactly what is covered here? Only the "image" in the book. > So if I went to the National Archives, found the negative of that print > and made my own copy I c

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: > > It is not so much that I believe chapters should lead the movement as that > I am certain WMF cannot successfully lead the movement. > > It seems to me that these changes are about making chapters more into > franchises. Which I find to be ex

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2011-08-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > > IMHO it worked just fine, but there were too many restrictions on when it > could be used. So actually…Mono is right, it was doomed to fail from the > beginning, regardless of its merits. > > -Dan > _

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2011-08-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > Did the idea of the second trial get any momentum in the end of the day? > As a en.wp newbie, I could only find the poll that the trial has been > discontinued, but nothing after that. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > >

Re: [Foundation-l] SEOs :((((

2011-08-01 Thread Keegan Peterzell
A correction: we call it a walled garden, not a silo, so followers of the advice should know the terminology when we politely correct them. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > > David how is an exact quote a summary or interpretation? > An exact quote, backed up by the actual audio track is... exact. > You are not summarizing it, and you are not interpreting it either. > You are presenting it. > > We shut down simple

Re: [Foundation-l] roadmap for WM affiliation ; a name for self-identified affiliation

2011-07-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
If I didn't have a heart I would have gone into advertising, specifically for branding. The topic is a long time interest of mine, so here's my amateur opinion with education on the branding world. The success of a brand depends on synching an idea/product with one name. At this point in time, an

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia as seen through 1964 acoustic, 300 baud modem

2011-07-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Amazing the infrastructure still works to use it. Wow. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Saw this today: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9dpXHnJXaE > It's a video of a guy demonstrating his 1964 Livermore Data Systems "Model > A" Acoustic Coupler Modem that still works > ht

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011-07-11 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Thomas Goldammer wrote: > It won't be possible to save languages going extinct. Even if two or > three people start writing a Wikipedia in such a language, it will die > out as a spoken language, eventually, not later than it would without > a Wikipedia. I think it

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome Tilman Bayer to the Wikimedia Foundation

2011-07-08 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Excellent hire. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Fantastic idea. One I'd really like to see put to fruition. I know as a kid I would have taken to the idea immediately. However, considering this is the WMF discussion list, I don't think it's a feasible project for the the WMF. The Foundation hosts sites that are volunteer community generated

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum

2011-06-29 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Precisely. On Jun 29, 2011 3:38 PM, "Wjhonson" wrote: > > One type of image being "Image of Muhammad" ? > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Philippe Beaudette > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 1:35 pm > Subject: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum >

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

2011-06-27 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Peter Gervai wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 17:43, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Wikipedia should be more like a social network. It provides us with the > > well wikipedia is about to create value for long term - social > networks are about to create worthless t

Re: [Foundation-l] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-06-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Heilman, sent from my mobile. On Jun 24, 2011 12:46 AM, "Keegan Peterzell" wrote: > Wasn't actually Herman's fault. It's the email addy for the linking > account. > On Jun 24, 2011 12:10 AM, "Mono mium" wrote: >> Please don't spam the list

Re: [Foundation-l] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-06-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Wasn't actually Herman's fault. It's the email addy for the linking account. On Jun 24, 2011 12:10 AM, "Mono mium" wrote: > Please don't spam the list. Kthxbai. > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, James Heilman via LinkedIn > wrote: >> LinkedIn >> >> >> >> >> >>James Heilman re

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF & Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > > If bitcoin is still in use after the minting reward dries up, we will > have a situation where ever larger pools of GPUs will compete for > tranasction fees. > > So I don't think it can be called "zero-overhead". > > https://en.bitcoin.it/wi

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011-06-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > > So, are we doomed to experience such things every once in a while? Or > does anyone have a bright idea about improving the balance between > ownership and wiki-ness? > > _

Re: [Foundation-l] OTRS

2011-06-07 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Huib Laurens wrote: > Hello, > > Almost a week later there has been no responds bij the Foundation nor a > responds from the OTRS admins to this mailing nor in private. Untrue regarding OTRS admins. I, as an OTRS admin, concur with the judgement of another OTRS

Re: [Foundation-l] Sooo, who wanted to recruit new users again? ; -)

2011-06-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Ashar Voultoiz wrote: > > On 07/06/11 02:09, Kim Bruning wrote: > >> Currently, we're getting some amount of traffic on > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_Revere > >> > >> Once we have given thanks and praise to Ms Palin for sending us s

Re: [Foundation-l] Sooo, who wanted to recruit new users again? ; -)

2011-06-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Ashar Voultoiz wrote: > On 07/06/11 02:09, Kim Bruning wrote: > > Currently, we're getting some amount of traffic on > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_Revere > > > > Once we have given thanks and praise to Ms Palin for sending us so many > > potentia

Re: [Foundation-l] Sooo, who wanted to recruit new users again? ; -)

2011-06-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > Currently, we're getting some amount of traffic on >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_Revere > > Once we have given thanks and praise to Ms Palin for sending us so many > potential new recruits; we can start explaining to everyone

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, FT2 wrote: > >> I agree with the point you make, but still think it's the right thing. >> >> Essentially the counter argument boils down to "if they don't

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, FT2 wrote: > I agree with the point you make, but still think it's the right thing. > > Essentially the counter argument boils down to "if they don't know there's > a > BLP they can't make work for us about it". Whatever is in the BLP will be > there whether they

Re: [Foundation-l] User talk page email notification

2011-05-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Thanks to the devs, and thanks to MZMcBride for raising the opportunity. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Brian J Mingus wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Keegan Peterzell >wrote: > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Brian J Mingus > > wrote: > > > > > > It seems that giving w.net/com/org to the WMF would b

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Brian J Mingus wrote: > > It seems that giving w.net/com/org to the WMF would be in line with his > vision of no corporation controlling a letter. > > +1 for the idealism, but I'd like to add the concept is quite silly if you consider the bulk of the internet users

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > With regards to the wi.ki domain, I asked people at the WMF back in 2009 > about whether they were interested in buying it given that the owner at the > time had a notice on the site saying he was willing to sell. The response > came back that

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > A while back, I think the WMF got offered the enwp.org domain for > free, which is a fairly oft used shortener. Does anyone remember what > ever happened to that offer? > > This is the thread we're discussing, which began Feb. 16. -- ~K

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:58 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > > http://commons.org/ would be nice. have we tried approaching them? > > -- > John Vandenberg > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Better user experience and retention through e-mail notifications

2011-04-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
> > > +1 > > I only know to check strategy and meta (no that I'm highly active there > from email notifications. I'm on the English Wikipedia several times each > day from my computer, where I can get talk messages, but most of the time > I'm at work and checking email and using mobile. It'd be a

Re: [Foundation-l] Better user experience and retention through e-mail notifications

2011-04-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:55 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Hi. > > I'm not sure about other people, but one of the primary reasons I get on > Facebook is that Facebook reminds me to get on. It sends notification > e-mails about a Wall post or a comment or whatever. Without these, I > wouldn't check it m

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-29 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:14 AM, teun spaans wrote: > Quote:Many volunteers don't have a lot to write. > This sounds like an opinion, not like a fact. Even on English wikipedia, we > still have about two hundred thousand plant species to describe, and > millions of animal species. And then I'm no

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:26 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Ryan Kaldari wrote: > > On 3/28/11 5:20 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > >> There's a theory that doing something like editing a free online > >> encyclopedia is a niche activity, with a finite amount of people who > will > >> ever be willing to participa

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > On 3/28/11 5:20 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > There's a theory that doing something like editing a free online > > encyclopedia is a niche activity, with a finite amount of people who will > > ever be willing to participate. If we accept this theo

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > >> > That reiterates my point: BLP policy /does not only apply to the deceased/. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP#Deceased > > > -- > ~Keegan > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > On 03/14/11 5:41 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > So that would mean exporting all BLPs to a completely separate project, > like > > Commons, which hosts and edits these BLPs, which are then available as > read- > > only pages in Wikipedia. The

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Even now, if you show up on some projects, create a new > category, write a few new articles, you have to claw your way through > nominations for deletion and a blizzard of nonsense from regulars, based > on being "new". Not that I can't do i

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > Of course we would expect that providers and universities will only be > able > > to provide a limited number of users with access. But access rights could > be > > awarded on th

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:35 PM, David Goodman wrote: > > And with respect to BLPs, the biographical information about living > people permeates most areas of the Encyclopedia, not just the articles > with a living person's name as the title. Another good reason to drop the B and just call it Li

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Pronoein wrote: > Hello Keegan. I think this list is not about siding and throwing > moqueries at each other. We should respect what each one believes. > > I wouldn't have called it a mockery myself, but it is a fair point and one that works in many ways. New st

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Mani Pande wrote: > > > > MzMcBride wrote: > > > "After having looked at the survey content, the survey software, and the > > survey format (particularly the length), I have very, very low confidence > > that anything of value will come from this (beyond lessons o

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Mani, meet MZMcBride. MZMcBride, meet Mani. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedia Foundation

2011-03-07 Thread Keegan Peterzell
A pleasure to have him back. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Thomas Goldammer wrote: | That's a very simple thing, > > the people must be able to verify (at least to a certain extend) that > you are indeed that user on enwiki, which they were not obviously, so > your vote was correctly marked invalid. For the next one, just g

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-04 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Zack Exley wrote: > > "The Wikimedia movement doesn’t owe you a job; You are here to serve the > Wikimedia movement; If you want a job, start looking." I'm very serious > about that. > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > fo

Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness

2011-02-25 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Yes, the larger wikis need to become WikiProject-centric. First step in > doing this would be to create a WikiProject namespace. Second step would > be to make WikiProject article tagging/assessment part of the software > instead of template-b

Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness (was: Missing Wikipedians: An Essay)

2011-02-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Philippe Beaudette < pbeaude...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > David Gerard wrote: > > Ban Twinkle? The tool seems to directly encourage problematic behaviour. > > > In my opinion, this would be suboptimal. The truth is, that tool made > my life easier when I was admin-i

Re: [Foundation-l] Document Foundation fundraising

2011-02-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:49 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 18 February 2011 15:15, Milos Rancic wrote: > > > While it is likely that they will achieve $50.000 somehow [1], it > > would be good that WMF (1) donate them some sum of money and (2) to > > cover the remainder, if they would have any. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-17 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Christine Moellenberndt < cmoellenber...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > I am loathe to dive in here, since it was my post that kind of > kick-started this whole thing and I certainly don't want to draw any > more fire to be honest. But I also feel loathe to stay away, pa

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:45 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > For example, Meta-Wiki was returning completely blank pages due to the use > of document.write() on pages that contained a particular CSS class. For those interested, MediaWiki:Common.js was broken if the page had a class=attitle in it. Mr.

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes to the identification policies and procedures

2011-02-04 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:59 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > > My issue is that this was presumably discussed for weeks prior to the > announcement to the OTRS list, without any community notification. Even a > courtesy heads-up ("we're currently re-evaluating whether certain > volunteers > need to identif

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-29 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:46 AM, koteche mcintosh < kotechemcint...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why can't people pay £2 per month and be a member of Wiki-everything! > > Better than [pledging. > > Have a on line active site that tells you what is going on how much money > there is! Get a members package?

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > > I think it would do us a lot of good to be able to recombine all of > these topics so when we are looking for a calendar or a presentation > bank or a list of media or whatever there is ONE place to go, not > five. Such a solution would make

Re: [Foundation-l] Since Egypt has shutdown internet, should we too?

2011-01-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:39 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Relevant to Egypt and WMF, it is important that Al-Jazeera has > released a pile of photos and video as CC by-nd and CC-by-nc-nd: > > > http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/al_jazeera_releases_egypt_coverage_under_creative.php > > Now, those

Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow

2011-01-22 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > > > You are mistaking the problem. > It's not that a piece of knowledge is not googleable. > It's that a piece of knowledge is not published whatsoever. > > Never published. Anywhere. At any time. Ever. > That's quite a different animal. > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banners

2010-12-31 Thread Keegan Peterzell
; Head of Reader Relations > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > > pbeaude...@wikimedia.org > > Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share > in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > > http://donate.wikimedia.org > > ___ > foundati

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Executive Director?

2010-12-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:35 AM, theo10011 wrote: > I didn't like the assumption of bad faith earlier on part of the team, the > fundraising team [1] as you would note, consists of Community members from > different locations and backgrounds. I am from India, Moushirah is from > Egypt, Dan and J

Re: [Foundation-l] 5M by 2 weeks

2010-11-26 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Speaking from my volunteer account and not as a staff member for this fundraiser, I'd like to say as a long time Wikimedian: Philippe and Megan have been amazing. On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > The $5M over 15 days is very good news. > > I think it is fair to say that th

Re: [Foundation-l] Donor comments?

2010-11-19 Thread Keegan Peterzell
donations, more information can be found on the WMF website itself: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate/Match_Your_Gift/en Thank you for your questions! -- Keegan Peterzell Associate Community Officer, Fundraising 2010 Wikimedia Foundation kpeterz...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-11-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
It looks to me like they just get paid to get volunteers to work. Nice scheme. So it's not technically paid editing :) "WikipediaExperts is a fast-growing network of experts which includes many Wikipedia editors. When a new assignment arrives we send it to the editor whose profile is the best fi

Re: [Foundation-l] A question for American Wikimedians

2010-11-17 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I would not wish that world upon anyone, Fred. African Americans are underrepresented for the same reason that Native Americans and about 300 ethnic groups are: lack of internet access and, with access emerging, learning how to engage in the internet. It's not because any specific group does not

Re: [Foundation-l] A question for American Wikimedians

2010-11-17 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Oh, and as an afterthought, compare our articles on hip-hop[1] on the English Wikipedia to our coverage of country music[2]. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanci_Griffith -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan _

Re: [Foundation-l] A question for American Wikimedians

2010-11-17 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > > For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any > > African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in > > a European country without African population, so everything seemed to > > me quite normal for

Re: [Foundation-l] Should we offer to host citizendium?

2010-11-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I was misinformed (wrong) On Nov 16, 2010 2:17 PM, "Domas Mituzas" wrote: > We did that with Uncyclopedia. Wikimedia hosted it until Wikia was formed. what? Domas ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikime... ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Should we offer to host citizendium?

2010-11-12 Thread Keegan Peterzell
the Right Thing®? I think we should do the right thing. I am not we. This thread seems responsive to the idea, so I'm just playing devil's advocate. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Keegan Peterzell > wrote: > &

Re: [Foundation-l] Should we offer to host citizendium?

2010-11-12 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:10 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 12 November 2010 08:12, FT2 wrote: > > > My only concern is on precedent - is this a good one (we help others in > the > > free knowledge/education world) or a bad one (our bandwidth is open to be > > used by any forum or website with a s

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Audited Financial Statements for 2009-10 Fiscal Year Now Available

2010-10-27 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I thought the very same thing. Sometimes I think about Dirk Gently's couch stuck in the stairwell. In a good way, that is. Any discussion that isn't the big picture is great, because it means we see the picture, at least. That doesn't happen a lot. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Andrew Garr

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