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> On 31 March 2012 06:45, John Vandenberg wrote:
>> There is no requirement to know everything. There is a requirement to
>> make decisions in the best interests of the organisation, *as you see
>> it*. If a trustee per
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 31 March 2012 06:13, John Vandenberg wrote:
>> if you cant decide whether something is good or bad for the
>> organisation, you are ill prepared for the vote (a procedural
>> problem), or you are incompetent.
>
if you cant decide whether something is good or bad for the
organisation, you are ill prepared for the vote (a procedural
problem), or you are incompetent.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 31 March 2012 05:56, John Vandenberg wrote:
>> An abstention is a r
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 31 March 2012 02:03, John Vandenberg wrote:
>> I expect that the minutes will explain the varied positions of the
>> board. If not, then the board should put in place procedures to
>> prevent abuse of abstains.
&g
'm curious about the abstains; back
> to conjecturing, I suppose.
I expect that the minutes will explain the varied positions of the
board. If not, then the board should put in place procedures to
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>
>
> Yes. This will also avoid, as recently, board members appearing to
> later disclaim actions (a vote) that they were in fact responsible for
> taking.
It's worth recalling that for the majority of 2008-2009 the board did
record all votes, and often noted who
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> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:08 PM, John Vandenberg wrote:
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>>
>>
>> And the creator of Wikipedia:Short_popular_vital_articles has retired
>> after 16 days..due to harassment/accusations of sock puppetry/etc
>&
0 bytes of content in less than a year, as
> opposed to the prior rate of improvement which was closer to six years
> to meet the same goal.
And the creator of Wikipedia:Short_popular_vital_articles has retired
after 16 days..due to harassment/accusations of sock puppetry/etc
https://en.w
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egitimate. It is a trademark infringement if
>> the foundation did not permit the use.
>>
>> Cheol
>>
>> 2012/3/5 RYU Cheol
>>
>>> Hi, all!
>>>
>>> I searched "Wikimedia Foundation" by chance and a lot of Wikibooks,
>>
g in their statements.
You are the only board member seeking re-election, and your statement
says you "support rescinding [a] part of our resolution."
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-selected_Board_seats/2012/Candidates
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> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:52 AM, John Vandenberg wrote:
>>
>> On English Wikisource, we consider these to be public domain.
>> We tag them that as public domain and explain why.
>>
>> https://en.wikisou
as public domain.
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d comments and signatures using the users
> real name or well-known handle?
If we are using the wonderful Liquid Threads extension, all signatures
change when we rename the account.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads
It is implemented on a few WMF projects, but it is being rewritten
that you have existing feedback, and contributors have seen
this feedback.
You *can* already determine whether that feedback (already in hand)
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le, suggestions for new things,
> or notes of errors with existing content.
And what percentage of the feedback resulted in article improvements?
And will that scale when feedback is being left about all articles?
Even useful notes left on the talk page are unlikely to result in
articl
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It allows readers to provide feedback; that feedback is not likely to
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being done on the OAD wiki.
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and Wikipedia articles about journals often have OA information in the infobox.
e.g. our most cited journal, J. Biol. Chem., is 12 month delay OA
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s. Some individuals on some
chapter boards may not be, but each board is a group of people, and
each chapter has rules which ensure that their decisions are a
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oard election, 39 chapters consisting of more
than 4000 identified people will be voting.[2]
Unfortunately neither process captures a large percentage of the
active Wikimedian community.
1. see bottom of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Results/en
2. see "member
hat role in disgust
over the process behind getting the EU to sign onto ACTA.'
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The first mention I saw was on Commons
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Hi George,
The push came about after the IRC office hours.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2012-01-12
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t the process worked, this time?
SOPA is currently dead. It may come back, soon, as something else,
but SOPA is dead.
We need to be watchful and ready to blackout the site, but we should
not protest about dead bills.
There is no consensus to
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> that their output is Creative Commons by default, however there are
> not as many that have a public IP policy which clearly allows staff to
> publish
ed out, ..
Yann *wants* to give wikilivres to WMCA, and
Eclecticology (Ray Saintonge) has the 'wikisource.ca' domain already.
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Wikimedia community? e.g.
there was an EU submission last year, and here is a WM-AU one
http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Submission_on_Australian_Digital_Future_Directions
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Florence Devouard wrote:
> On 12/3/11 11:33 PM, John Vandenberg wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> Does anyone know where this Jimmy quote comes from? I presume it is
>> after the WMF board meeting on 5 September 2004 as it quotes from it
>>
rr .. like
a charter. It is linked to from the Wikispecies about page
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikispecies:About
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>
>> Scattered pieces of the puzzle globe.
>
>
> +1
I like it; a good image says a thousands words in every language.
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On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote:
> On 3 November 2011 09:26, John Vandenberg wrote:
>
>> We could create a zotero plugin which allows the ref to be added to
>> the end of paragraph.
>>
>> We could go even further and integrate mediawiki and a zote
uld create a zotero plugin which allows the ref to be added to
the end of paragraph.
We could go even further and integrate mediawiki and a zotero server
so that Wikipedia can use named refs throughout.
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/20026/zotero-plugin-for-mediawiki/
n-l/2009-November/056032.html
"Second, we're adding a "soft post limit" that, for the time being, will kick
in at 30 posts per month. At that point, we will, at our discretion, place
members on moderation for the remainder of the month, and will approve posts
only where we feel th
m/Wikipedia/ScanMail/foundation-l.html
(thanks Erik Zachte)
Somehow David Gerard, Milos Rancic, Kim and Tobias Oelgarte made it to
96, 95, 89 and 83 posts last month. Last month Thomas Dalton,
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen and I posted 39, 37 and 35 times respectively,
n, and over-engineering coupled with an expectation
for 'the community' to build a dataset that they appear reluctant to
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icle?
I think we should develop the finite list of 'real' problems, to feed
into a defined scope of said problem, and find minimalistic solutions.
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et me check: Have seen your image filter software actually
>> directly use categories from commons? Are you sure?
>>
>
>
> Yes, I have seen net-nanny software directly block entire Commons
> categories.
What was the name of the software? Or where was it installed where you saw i
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> John Vandenberg, 05/10/2011 00:16:
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Thomas Morton
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.camera.it/_dati/leg16/lavori/stampati/pdf/16PDL0038530.pdf
>>
>> Is this public doma
There is a petition with over 1430 signatures in 24 hours
http://twitter.com/#!/jayvdb/status/121435650057707520
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t true for the communities.
>>
>> Ryan Kaldari
>
> not for/against the US legislation, that means? Or world-wide?
The US laws apply to lobbying internationally as well as in the US.
The WMF is allowed to lobby, but additional regulati
ould hurt freedom of
> expression in Italy, and therefore it's entirely reasonable for the Italian
> Wikipedians to oppose it. The Wikimedia Foundation will support their
> position.
Is this the first time that WMF has actively taken a stance on
politics an
their management.
The WMF can override the local community if they want.
The WMF is very unlikely to approve of this, as that would be
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Is this public domain?
If it is, we can put it on Italian Wikisource, annotate it and
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Hi Lennart.
Thank you for these. I'll be using the Läraren video on this coming
Monday at This Is Not Art.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Newcastle/TINA2011
The other two are not as obviously about Wikipedia.
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to the 'medium' / 'channeler'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_on_religious_works
And there is the crown hold copyright on KJV, in perpetuity.
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Thank you. Added to
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Saudi_Arabia
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http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Half_a_Million_People_Donate_to_Keep_Wikipedia_Free
Someone who does have non-English language skills and non-English
project experience, and they arnt in use:
http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Melamrawy_%28WMF%29
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also has "Author" and "Portal" pages, which is where _all_
of the user-contributed content goes.
Wiktionary has an Appendix namespace, which is one of its most
important sets of content pages, consisting of lovely word lists.
Some of thes
e good to compile a list of any WMF projects of this kind. maybe the
WMF can have _one_ "sister projects support officer" (think how many
dedicated _English_Wikipedia_ support staff the WMF has).
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http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Babel
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ch do not have
their own project (yet). each text is a discrete work, and dont need
an active community in order to be a useful resource. Eventualism is
stronger on Wikisource, which is why texts are not forced to reside on
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> ...
> We need people to try the technical basics of a fork, i.e. taking an
> en:wp dump, an images dump, ..
Is there an images dump?
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e this useful to a
> larger audience.
It is true that we have more English scanned books than we could
transcribe in a hundred years, but there are many languages which have
very few scanned books available online, and there are some important
E
er there may be instances
where we can fix the problem by removing gratuitous images from
articles, and leave them in a Commons category.
If it turns out to be a very limited problem, we should not build a
complex system that ends up over-engineered and not supported by the
community. A few gadgets to
Supporting/Investing in the extensions used by OmegaWiki.
http://www.omegawiki.org/Special:Version
see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Wiktionary_data_design
and
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OmegaWiki
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than five contributors with >100 edits per month
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/TablesWikipediansEditsGt5.htm
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e plans the type of voting and requirements for voters, drafts
and organizes all of the official referendum pages on Meta, verifies
that voters meet the criteria, audits votes to ensure there are no
duplicate votes or other problems, et cetera."
Does "the type of voting" include the s
gt; I'm sorry, no. This is just untrue.
It would be nice to see some analysis of the results per country or language.
But please can we have the data first, so that the analysis tasks can
be undertaken by we the people.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Image_filter_referendum/Results/en#R
ggested in December 2010, with
pretty mockups, and mentioned again in this thread.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249381685
Fajro, I like it.
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Risker wrote:
> On 7 September 2011 17:32, John Vandenberg wrote:
>> Every version of Mozilla has included the "Dont load images" option.
>> And it is simple to find.
>
> John, you made me laugh out loud when I read that - it remi
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> John Vandenberg wrote:
>> I think you might be more interested in looking at the same question
>> from another perspective.
>>
>> Are there any encyclopedia which have been
>> classified/banned/bowlderised by
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Phil Nash wrote:
>>John Vandenberg wrote:
>>..
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board
>
> Rubbish, and the article you cite is very poorly-written anyway.
I provided the link to Wikipedia so people unfamiliar with
te
to talk about real content pages on a Wikipedia project which should
be rated, either by law or on a voluntary/best practice basis.
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> [[WP:ANI]] is hardly an example to our children, is it?
ANI isn't a content page.
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lementation of
> the image filter?
>
> Because, unless we got some serious statistical backing for those
> assertions, they are just smoke blowing our of asses to the sound of
> "but think of the children!"
Are there ar
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Risker wrote:
> On 7 September 2011 17:18, John Vandenberg wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Risker wrote:
>> > On 7 September 2011 10:48, David Gerard wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
approach is far better than the approach used by most other large
> educational institutions which currently control the viewing of
> controversial content through their acquisition process.
Wikipedia *is* successful, and an image filter was not part of its
significant opposition to
> even this simple matter.
Turning off images should be, and can be, done by the user-agent.
We have a help page describing how to do this.
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Thanks Steven, and the Community Department.
I am instantly drawn to the analysis of redlinks.
Can we please have this data!!
Article writers are on stand by ready to kill red links ;-)
The special page for this is dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WantedPages
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need to win the battles (as well as the war ..) is slightly more
advanced tools... like the block button.
add a mix of abusefilter, flagged revs, semi-protection, etc., and we
can slow down changes to the categorisation system and respond quickly
to attack
d still apply to
any survey of the public, especially when conducted by organisations
funded by the public. The survey instruments used should be valid,
and the survey results should be discard if the survey population was
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If WMF already is doing this, it isnt being heard on the blog or other
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whether the survey population obtained is suitable, etc?
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agreements should be honoured by the WMF?
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27;s not public? Not really asking you (Nathan)
> directly, but asking the list, I suppose.
It is a draft. A few problems were communicated privately nine days
ago from WMAU, and from other chapters around the same time.
I would like an ETA from the WMF on a public version for comment.
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it to chapters via grants, all chapters must comply with the US
regulations regarding use of money by a 501(c)(3) charity, and any
additional constraints that the WMF puts on these grants in order to
minimise its own risks and simplify its own compliance checking.
By doing this, the WMF is taking on
the Wikipedia articles,
> but in a new plataform. It would be an interesting experiment.
Something like this.. ?
http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:PersonalWikiTool
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