Re: [Foundation-l] Will Beback

On 03/12/12 12:35 PM, George Herbert wrote: Without delving into the specifics here, or concluding either way as to the current case lacking actual evidence in front of me, it is a real and quite serious problem if we don't hold senior and longtime editors to account for abuses they may perpetuat

Re: [Foundation-l] Will Beback

Mailing list posts are the wrong place to complain about ArbCom rulings. They provide one point of view in a way that favours one side of the story, while ArbCom has a full process of evidence and debate. As others have said, en.wikipedia can take care of this stuff, and it isn't appropriate for W

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:29 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 12 March 2012 20:24, Tobias Oelgarte > wrote: > > > I'm tired to reply to this kind of comments since I said anything > important > > multiple times already. So I will keep it as that and only write the > > following: > > Sorry, but your

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

Am 12.03.2012 23:14, schrieb Andrew Gray: On 11 March 2012 00:23, David Gerard wrote: On 10 March 2012 22:15, Andrew Gray wrote: The image filter may not be a good solution, but too much of the response involves saying "we're fine, we're neutral, we don't need to do anything" and leaving it

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Nederland reports for January and February 2012

This is the chapter report for Wikimedia Nederland for January 2012. == Cultural heritage == Together with Teylers Museum in Haarlem there is a "challenge" in which people are asked to write Wikipedia articles about subjects related to that museum. Conferences etc. On Saturday January, 21st WMNL

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

On 11 March 2012 00:23, David Gerard wrote: > On 10 March 2012 22:15, Andrew Gray wrote: > >> The image filter may not be a good solution, but too much of the >> response involves saying "we're fine, we're neutral, we don't need to >> do anything" and leaving it there; this isn't the case, and we

Re: [Foundation-l] UK Parliament Joint Committee on Privacy and Injunctions

On 12 March 2012 02:52, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > There are a number of sections touching on Wikimedia, notably those > beginning on the following pages: > http://www.parliament.uk/documents/joint-committees/Privacy_and_Injunctions/JCPIWrittenEvWeb.pdf#page=425 Written by you and ... Edward Buckne

Re: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Hi everyone:  Just a reminder of this.  :-)  Starts in about 90 minutes. Here is the log that Philippe uploaded after the meeting: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2012-03-12 (Thanks Philippe! Looking for

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

Andreas, I am not going to express an opinion on the case you reference, this is still a hot debate, particularly on Commons, and I do not believe there is a stable consensus yet. I certainly have no personal interest in being continually dragged into penis wars or be forced to read criminal alleg

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On 12 March 2012 20:24, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: > I'm tired to reply to this kind of comments since I said anything important >  multiple times already. So I will keep it as that and only write the > following: > Sorry, but your comments are total bullshit¹ and you know it. >  ¹ includes strong la

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

I'm tired to reply to this kind of comments since I said anything important multiple times already. So I will keep it as that and only write the following: Sorry, but your comments are total bullshit¹ and you know it. ¹ includes strong language, overly repeated selective examples, bending o

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

Even if it is only one click it is still the same as appending a dislike button to it (if no all or nothing option). At least it shows, that we think, that it is something disturbing. At this point it has nothing to do with curating content, it's a mere tool to represent POV. nya~ Am 12.03.20

Re: [Foundation-l] Will Beback

I would almost like to simply +1 here, but... Without delving into the specifics here, or concluding either way as to the current case lacking actual evidence in front of me, it is a real and quite serious problem if we don't hold senior and longtime editors to account for abuses they may perpetua

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Fae wrote: > Strangely enough, searching Commons for "Male figure" rather than > "Male human" shows me artwork from the National Museum of African Art > and a Michelangelo Buonarroti sketch from the Louvre in top matches. > No problem with wading through "100 dick

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

Am 12.03.2012 18:02, schrieb Marc Riddell: on 3/12/12 11:43 AM, Nathan at nawr...@gmail.com wrote: The "bible belt" phrase that some people throw around in this discussion is just a stand-in for anti-Americanism and a sign of profound ignorance. It's best ignored, along with the people who us

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

??? Hubertl Am 12.03.2012 16:43, schrieb Nathan: The "bible belt" phrase that some people throw around in this discussion is just a stand-in for anti-Americanism and a sign of profound ignorance. It's best ignored, along with the people who use it. __

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Fae wrote: > >> Strangely enough, searching Commons for "Male figure" rather than >> "Male human" shows me artwork from the National Museum of African Art >> and a Michelangelo Buonarroti sketch from the L

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Fae wrote: > Strangely enough, searching Commons for "Male figure" rather than > "Male human" shows me artwork from the National Museum of African Art > and a Michelangelo Buonarroti sketch from the Louvre in top matches. > No problem with wading through "100 dick

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Marc Riddell wrote: > on 3/12/12 11:43 AM, Nathan at nawr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > The "bible belt" phrase that some people throw around in this discussion > is > > just a stand-in for anti-Americanism and a sign of profound ignorance. > It's > > best ignored, alo

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On 12 March 2012 16:34, Andreas Kolbe wrote: ... > You got this the wrong way round, mate. All those pictures of dicks and > arseholes are preventing people from learning what they might want to > learn, because actual worthwhile knowledge is crowded out by all the dicks > and arseholes. > > There

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

on 3/12/12 11:43 AM, Nathan at nawr...@gmail.com wrote: > The "bible belt" phrase that some people throw around in this discussion is > just a stand-in for anti-Americanism and a sign of profound ignorance. It's > best ignored, along with the people who use it. Nathan, how on earth do you equate

Re: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner

Hi everyone: Just a reminder of this. :-) Starts in about 90 minutes. ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Hi everyone, > > On M

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

Hoi, In the Netherlands we have our own bible belt.. it is not exclusive to the USA Thanks, Gerard On 12 March 2012 16:43, Nathan wrote: > The "bible belt" phrase that some people throw around in this discussion is > just a stand-in for anti-Americanism and a sign of profound ignorance. It's

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=250&offset=20&redirs=0&profile=images&search=male+human So unless I want to see 100 dicks and arseholes I am somehow against * knowledge*? http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=250&offset=20&redirs=0&profile=

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

The "bible belt" phrase that some people throw around in this discussion is just a stand-in for anti-Americanism and a sign of profound ignorance. It's best ignored, along with the people who use it. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On 12 March 2012 14:35, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > That is beside the point. You are against the proposal that is on the > table. It is a compromise. Now the fact that some want much more and you > want much less makes it a compromise. Erm, I'm addressing Richard's stated rationale. - d. _

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

Hoi, That is beside the point. You are against the proposal that is on the table. It is a compromise. Now the fact that some want much more and you want much less makes it a compromise. So what gives, why do you refer to the opposing point of view ? Why not accept the proposal as is and leave it a

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On 12 March 2012 13:55, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > When you consider that the current proposal is for a system where it takes > one click to see something anyway, I do think the notion that something is > not knowable is over the top. The rationale is problematic: to appease a target audience of

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

Hoi, When you consider that the current proposal is for a system where it takes one click to see something anyway, I do think the notion that something is not knowable is over the top. Thanks, Gerard On 12 March 2012 14:07, David Gerard wrote: > On 12 March 2012 12:28, Richard Symonds > wr

Re: [Foundation-l] Will Beback

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:00 AM, James Heilman wrote: > I must disagree with Risker that this is simply a local issue involving a > single project or with a previous editor who feels that English Wikipedia > can take care of itself. We have a serious lack of editors not only on > English Wikipedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

On 12 March 2012 12:28, Richard Symonds wrote: > deepest parts of the US bible belt, and areas such as Pakistan and India, > which have sizeable English-speaking populations and a very strong religious > vein. With such a diverse worldwide readership on one language, it is only > natural that peo

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

I'm speaking as an individual here, not on behalf of my chapter. The problem that the English language Wikipedia has that the German language one does not, is that we cover countries as far apart as the libertarian micronation of 'Sealand '

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Scholarship in Medicine

James Heilman, 12/03/2012 11:07: Seven month ago we at Wikimedia Canada offered a $1000 CAD scholarship to be awarded to the Canadian university student who made the most significant contribution to a disease related article on Wikipedia. The scholarship was promoted using posters placed up at a

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Scholarship in Medicine

Seven month ago we at Wikimedia Canada offered a $1000 CAD scholarship to be awarded to the Canadian university student who made the most significant contribution to a disease related article on Wikipedia. The scholarship was promoted using posters placed up at a number of Universities as well as p

Re: [Foundation-l] Will Beback

I must disagree with Risker that this is simply a local issue involving a single project or with a previous editor who feels that English Wikipedia can take care of itself. We have a serious lack of editors not only on English Wikipedia but within the project as a whole and this is getting worse ra

Re: [Foundation-l] Bangla Wikipedia Unconference 2012 in Chittagong

That is great Tanvir :) Good going! Regards Noopur On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Tanvir Rahman wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am so pleased to announce that Wikimedia Bangladesh, with the help of > Independent University, Bangladesh, Chittagong, and Bangladesh Open Source > Network, organized