Cyrano writes:
> Mike, I don't know how's the political landscape is in the USA, but you
> would say that there is few significative corruption and collusion?
No, I wouldn't say that. Whenever you have enough human beings
assembled to create a political environment, you create the potential
for c
Le 22/01/2012 20:00, Thomas Dalton a écrit :
> On 22 January 2012 22:54, Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> I welcome your independent research project when you get it started.
>> Or anybody's, really. I suppose the null hypothesis is that one can
>> simply stay silent and wins the issue anyway. Obviously,
Le 22/01/2012 23:30, Mike Godwin a écrit :
> I think you imagine the blackout was the only thing that mattered in
> turning this legislation around. I can see why you might think that,
> but it is incorrect. Effective strategies for political change are
> implemented on many levels, and, in my vie
Mike, I don't know how's the political landscape is in the USA, but you
would say that there is few significative corruption and collusion?
Le 22/01/2012 21:16, Mike Godwin a écrit :
> Theo10011 writes:
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
>
>> Am I wrong to assume, that lobbyi
What about sharing the whole databases among the millions of users, in
some p2p net with a lot of redundancies?, something like a dense, cloudy
internet of databases who remains whole even if it looses part of
itself? Does it sound unwordly?
It could be a good complement to the server based version
Le 22/01/2012 20:18, Thomas Dalton a écrit :
> That's a good analogy. The approach often taken with studies about
> humanity is not to do experiments (because they can be harmful) but
> instead to examine things that have already happened or are happening
> anyway.
But then you won't act until stud
Le 22/01/2012 20:04, Mike Godwin a écrit :
> Another important lesson about arguing issues in Washington is that
> the fight is never over. The content companies have been at war with
> technology companies for decades over copyright issues. The fact that
> we were heard one day (or even one week)
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:48 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> > If you read I said "according to recent rulings"
>
> And as far as I can tell, what you claim those recent rulings said, is
> not what the recent rulings said.
>
>
WP:OKAY
I hope I am st
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> If you read I said "according to recent rulings"
And as far as I can tell, what you claim those recent rulings said, is
not what the recent rulings said.
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:17 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Anthony wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> >> > Well, that was my point, according to recent rulings, money is speech
> an
Experimentation that relies on the availability of Pending changes
would be better carried out of those language Wikipedias that have
adopted the system, such as the German Wikipedia.
The English WP decide not to use Pending Changes; I cannot for certain
predict what would happen if the request to
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Brandon Harris wrote:
>
>I think that trying to school Mike Godwin on Citizens United and IP
> Law is colossally bad idea. But entertaining.
>
>
I agree completely. I love Mike, why on earth would you think I was trying
to "school" him? I was talking about
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Anthony wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
>> > Well, that was my point, according to recent rulings, money is speech and
>> > corporations are people
>>
>> Really? That's weird. W
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> > Well, that was my point, according to recent rulings, money is speech and
> > corporations are people
>
> Really? That's weird. What recent ruling said that?
Citizens United Vs. Federal E
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why do you imagine money spent is the measure of influence? The
>> pro-SOPA forces outspent the tech industry three-to-one and still
>> lost.
>
>
> Citation needed.
Here's a place to
On 1/22/12 7:32 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
P.S. Hi Jorm, whatcha think? ;)
I think that trying to school Mike Godwin on Citizens United and IP Law
is colossally bad idea. But entertaining.
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 08:30, Kim Bruning wrote:
>> Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa
>> http://www.politico.com/morningtech/0112/morningtech377.html
>>
>> Interesting. Any details?
>
> I thought we had already discussed t
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> Well, that was my point, according to recent rulings, money is speech and
> corporations are people
Really? That's weird. What recent ruling said that?
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Mike Godwin wrote:
>
> Why do you imagine money spent is the measure of influence? The
> pro-SOPA forces outspent the tech industry three-to-one and still
> lost.
>
Citation needed.
>
> Plus, If money is the measure of effectiveness, what does this say
> about
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> This is an area I have no expertise in. My nascent understanding of the
> legal implication of those legislations aside, I, like others usually defer
> to more respected opinions. The Citizens United ruling for example has been
> criticized by P
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Gregory Varnum
wrote:
> Basically a charity in the USA can spend up to 20% of its expenses on "direct
> lobbying" of related issues.
20% of the first $500,000, 15% of the next $500,000, 10% of the next
$500,000, and 5% of the rest, with a cap of $1 million.
The
I find this discussion interesting, although after Sue's clarification, it
might be moot. But I am going to continue it, until someone asks to take
this off-list.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Mike Godwin wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
>
> > Direct lobbying is re
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> Direct lobbying is relatively new compared to the older forms of government
> and legislative influence. Strictly from a global south perspective, a
> similar form of unregulated advocacy and influence that I saw practiced here
> was called some
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> I thought we had already discussed this here, but maybe it was only
> discussed on the SOPA pages on-wiki? Upshot: the Wikimedia Foundation
> engaged a DC firm, Dow Lohnes Government Strategies, to help us better
> understand SOPA/PIPA. They a
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 08:30, Kim Bruning wrote:
> > Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa
> >http://www.politico.com/morningtech/0112/morningtech377.html
> >
> > Interesting. Any details?
>
> I thought we had already discuss
On 22 January 2012 08:30, Kim Bruning wrote:
> Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa
> http://www.politico.com/morningtech/0112/morningtech377.html
>
> Interesting. Any details?
I thought we had already discussed this here, but maybe it was only
discussed on the SOPA pages on-
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:12 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 23:50, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>
>> So we will put a few fallback datacenters elsewhere, just so our
>> various communities and chapters realize we aren't going to be
>> bullied by US jurisdiction.
>
>
> AIUI setting u
Hi Mike
I want to talk for a minute about lobbying in general, aside from the WMF
position on it. Because this might be one of those international issues
where perceptions might differ based on the culture and nationality of
someone. I know my position on this might be naive or flawed, but I know
On 22 January 2012 23:33, Theo10011 wrote:
> You may have heard the other stereotype about lobbying, that people who
> actually propose and support legislation like SOPA and PIPA are backed by
> lobbyist on behalf RIAA, MPAA and other large publishers, who have very
> deep pockets. It is not an un
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:16 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>> This merit is even more evident when the topic is very specialized,
>> e.g. [[Phonological history of English low back vowels]]. I bet there
>> isn't a forum on the Web dedicated to this very specialized topic, and
>> even if
Theo10011 writes:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> Am I wrong to assume, that lobbying involves approaching a registered,
> professional consulting/lobbying firm in Washington who in turn, refer the
> client to politicians and then facilitate meetings and discussions in
> pri
Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> This merit is even more evident when the topic is very specialized,
> e.g. [[Phonological history of English low back vowels]]. I bet there
> isn't a forum on the Web dedicated to this very specialized topic, and
> even if there is one, it can be very hard to find it with Google
On 23 January 2012 00:44, David Gerard wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 23:39, Svip wrote:
>
>> The name 'talk page' is also a terrible name and very ambiguous as to
>> what it is. A far more appropriate candidate for such a page's name
>> would be 'collaboration page', 'work page', 'improvement pag
On 23 January 2012 00:43, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Svip wrote:
>
>> On 22 January 2012 23:31, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>>
>>> The wiki way to talk may be favored by the Wikipedia community, but is
>>> really weird to the general public.
>>
>> The name 'talk page' is also a
On 22 January 2012 23:50, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> So we will put a few fallback datacenters elsewhere, just so our
> various communities and chapters realize we aren't going to be
> bullied by US jurisdiction.
AIUI setting up the new Virginia datacentre took considerable effort
and plann
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> Mike, I completely understand your point on this and where you are coming
> from. But you made a conflicting point yourself
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Mike Godwin wrote:
> >
> >
> > None of this requires that any nonprofit spend t
The simple option that will just blow all this talk fo lobbying away,
is to migrate outside US jurisdiction entirely. It does entail some
costs, and may well not be optimal, on many fronts.
A medium option is to do a plan on the lines of the actions that
Google has already put into force, of dive
On 22 January 2012 23:39, Svip wrote:
> The name 'talk page' is also a terrible name and very ambiguous as to
> what it is. A far more appropriate candidate for such a page's name
> would be 'collaboration page', 'work page', 'improvement page' and so
> on.
English Wikinews calls it "collabora
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Svip wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 23:31, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>
>> The wiki way to talk may be favored by the Wikipedia community, but is
>> really weird to the general public.
>
> The name 'talk page' is also a terrible name and very ambiguous as to
> what it is. A
Ah - things happen. Thanks for the note.
Ziko
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On 22 January 2012 23:31, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> The wiki way to talk may be favored by the Wikipedia community, but is
> really weird to the general public.
The name 'talk page' is also a terrible name and very ambiguous as to
what it is. A far more appropriate candidate for such a page's name
wo
Mike, I noticed you have been equating "getting our voice heard" with
general lobbying. I am curious, mostly because I don't know what it
entails.
Am I wrong to assume, that lobbying involves approaching a registered,
professional consulting/lobbying firm in Washington who in turn, refer the
clien
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 23:25, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>> This comment section idea can be an experiment. If it does more good
>> than bad, we can keep it. Otherwise we can remove it. It's just as
>> simple as enabling/disabling a MediaWiki extension.
On 22 January 2012 23:25, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> This comment section idea can be an experiment. If it does more good
> than bad, we can keep it. Otherwise we can remove it. It's just as
> simple as enabling/disabling a MediaWiki extension.
How would you measure how much good and bad it did? There i
This comment section idea can be an experiment. If it does more good
than bad, we can keep it. Otherwise we can remove it. It's just as
simple as enabling/disabling a MediaWiki extension.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 23:08, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>>> They
On 22 January 2012 23:08, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>> They can do what academics have always done: read each other's
>> published works and go to conferences. If a subject is so obscure that
>> only a handle of researchers are involved in it, then it probably
>> isn't sufficiently notable to have a Wikip
On 22 January 2012 23:09, Mike Godwin wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Thomas Dalton
> wrote:
>
>> I disagree - the null hypothesis is that the gain from lobbying isn't
>> worth the cost, not that the gain is zero. (Cost includes far more
>> than just monetary cost, of course.)
>
> Ah,
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> I disagree - the null hypothesis is that the gain from lobbying isn't
> worth the cost, not that the gain is zero. (Cost includes far more
> than just monetary cost, of course.)
Ah, then the proper experiment would have been for Wikipedians
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 22:54, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>> So this can mean very much for scientific research. For example,
>> imagine if there are two mathematicians in the world interested in the
>> same, very deep math concept, but they don't know ea
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> Mike, I completely understand your point on this and where you are coming
> from. But you made a conflicting point yourself
> But as I saw it, we already
> made our voice heard? When we blacked out Wikipedia for 24 hours, and saw
> some me
On 22 January 2012 22:56, Lodewijk wrote:
> Hi Ziko,
>
> I appreciate your email, but it seems you forgot the link. Also, I
> personally strongly prefer it if you could include the actual reports in
> the email. It makes searching & finding much easier, as well as offline
> reading.
I agree - ple
On 22 January 2012 22:54, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> So this can mean very much for scientific research. For example,
> imagine if there are two mathematicians in the world interested in the
> same, very deep math concept, but they don't know each other. How do
> we let them meet and collaborate with eac
On 22 January 2012 22:54, Mike Godwin wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Thomas Dalton
> wrote:
>
>> There's a massive selection bias there! Of course the NGOs that do
>> lots of lobbying think lobbying is a great idea, otherwise they
>> wouldn't be doing it.
>
> Not only that, but of cou
Hi Ziko,
I appreciate your email, but it seems you forgot the link. Also, I
personally strongly prefer it if you could include the actual reports in
the email. It makes searching & finding much easier, as well as offline
reading.
Best regards,
Lodewijk
No dia 22 de Janeiro de 2012 22:32, Ziko v
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> There's a massive selection bias there! Of course the NGOs that do
> lots of lobbying think lobbying is a great idea, otherwise they
> wouldn't be doing it.
Not only that, but of course people who eat food and drink water to
sustain themsel
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Thomas Dalton
>> wrote:
>>> There is already a discussion page attached to every article. It's for
>>> discussing the article, though, rather than its topi
Mike, I completely understand your point on this and where you are coming
from. But you made a conflicting point yourself
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>
> None of this requires that any nonprofit spend the kind of lobbying
> dollars that Google spends -- even if that
On 22 January 2012 22:31, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> Besides this, another disadvantage of the current "Talk" tab is it
> uses the wiki way to talk, not the typical "comment section" we see
> under every YouTube video, Flickr image, Facebook status update, etc.
> The wiki way to talk may be favored by th
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Thomas Dalton
> wrote:
>> There is already a discussion page attached to every article. It's for
>> discussing the article, though, rather than its topic.
>
> Besides this, another disadvantage of the current "
On 22 January 2012 22:26, Mike Godwin wrote:
> At this point, I'll understand if you hit me with a [citation needed]
> here, and I confess that what I'm telling probably is best classified
> as "original research." But don't take my word for it -- talk to other
> NGOs that work in the Washington p
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> There is already a discussion page attached to every article. It's for
> discussing the article, though, rather than its topic.
Besides this, another disadvantage of the current "Talk" tab is it
uses the wiki way to talk, not the typical "co
geni writes:
> What is highly questionable is if it a remotely worthwhile use of
> money. If Google's lobbyists can't impact SOPA and the like what makes
> the foundation think our can?
geni, as you may know, I spent more than a decade in Washington
working on public-policy issues for non-profits
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 22:08, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
>> For example, on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat , we can have a
>> single discussion area that can both talk about the editing of this
>> article and issues related to cats (e.g. petting them).
>>
As Facebook already takes our articles for the same general chitchat
reasons, it sounds like we could add a Facebook link to every article to
get the same result.
Cheers,
Fae
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There is already a discussion page attached to every article. It's for
discussing the article, though, rather than its topic.
While we are more than a conventional encyclopedia, we are still an
encyclopaedia and I don't think we should add job and product adverts to
our articles.
If people want t
On 22 January 2012 22:08, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> For example, on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat , we can have a
> single discussion area that can both talk about the editing of this
> article and issues related to cats (e.g. petting them).
>
Well, English Wikinews has what you are looking for by h
On 22 January 2012 21:43, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> Hello All,
> I just filed a feature request which I think is of strategic interest
> to Wikipedia:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33889
Similar to the "Opinions" tab on Wikinews. Could be interesting. Would
need to be plausibly use
For example, on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat , we can have a
single discussion area that can both talk about the editing of this
article and issues related to cats (e.g. petting them).
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> The Article Feedback Tool v.5 and the current "Talk" ta
The Article Feedback Tool v.5 and the current "Talk" tab are for
discussing *the editing of the current article*, not for discussing
*the topic represented by the current article*, although I think these
two goals can coexist in a single discussion area.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Tom Morris
On 22 January 2012 21:43, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just filed a feature request which I think is of strategic interest
> to Wikipedia:
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33889
>
> Bug 33889 - Request to add a comment section under every Wikipedia article
>
> By providin
Not least our public life-blood comes from the perception we're
independent, non-profit motivated, charitable, public welfare motivated,
grass-roots - not a "Silicon Valley giant". We have spent years explaining
we have just 75 staff and volunteer writers. We seek small donations to be
aligned to t
Hello All,
I just filed a feature request which I think is of strategic interest
to Wikipedia:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33889
Bug 33889 - Request to add a comment section under every Wikipedia article
By providing a comment section under every Wikipedia article, we can ena
Google (and facebook and twitter etc) are large corporate organizations
with profits heavily on their mind (by law, they are responsible to their
shareholders). While they clearly have good reasons to be opposed to SOPA
and PIPA there reasons are not exactly the same as ours and in my opinion
we wo
Hello,
Wikimedia Nederland is reporting monthly on its activities. We just
completed December, and for convenience I send you here the link to
the whole list of reports.
Kind regards
Ziko van Dijk
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Philippe Beaudette
wrote:
> You trust GOOGLE's interests to align sufficiently with ours, to the
> extent that you're willing to cede government affairs to them?
Yes.
Why won't their interest align on the same side as everyone else ? The
issue is just SOPA and P
Actually, they're pretty similar. Don't forget that Google and Sergey
Brin's foundation are major income sources.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Philippe Beaudette
wrote:
> You trust GOOGLE's interests to align sufficiently with ours, to the
> extent that you're willing to cede government affai
You trust GOOGLE's interests to align sufficiently with ours, to the
extent that you're willing to cede government affairs to them?
pb
On Sun Jan 22 12:48:50 2012, geni wrote:
> On 22 January 2012 18:00, Gwern Branwen wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pedro Sanchez wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm
On 22 January 2012 18:00, Gwern Branwen wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pedro Sanchez wrote:
>>
>> I'm worried that we may be getting in trouble.
>> I don't know about US laws, but are charitable organizations allowed
>> to meddle in political lobbying?
>>
>> I'd appreciate if more kno
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On 22 January 2012 19:24, Gregory Varnum wrote:
> Basically a charity in the USA can spend up to 20% of its expenses on "direct
> lobbying" of related issues. Basically that means they can say "this is good
> and that's good" - but they can't actually endorse a party or individual.
> They can
Basically a charity in the USA can spend up to 20% of its expenses on "direct
lobbying" of related issues. Basically that means they can say "this is good
and that's good" - but they can't actually endorse a party or individual. They
can educate on that person - "so and so wants to do this" -
Wouldn't it be better if you just moderate non-member messages, so there is no
confusion where they need to post and they won't get accidentally rejected?
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pedro Sanchez wrote:
>
> I'm worried that we may be getting in trouble.
> I don't know about US laws, but are charitable organizations allowed
> to meddle in political lobbying?
>
> I'd appreciate if more knowledgeable people could give us some light.
It's perfec
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Kim Bruning wrote:
> Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa
> http://www.politico.com/morningtech/0112/morningtech377.html
>
> Interesting. Any details?
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
>
I suggest they not aim primarily against SOPA and PIPA
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Kim Bruning wrote:
> Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa
> http://www.politico.com/morningtech/0112/morningtech377.html
>
> Interesting. Any details?
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
>
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I'm worried that we may be getting in trouble.
I
Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa
http://www.politico.com/morningtech/0112/morningtech377.html
Interesting. Any details?
sincerely,
Kim Bruning
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 05:54:34PM -0500, MZMcBride wrote:
> Steven Walling wrote:
> > If a policy makes good sense, we clearly need it, and feedback about the
> > text is mostly positive, then we should adopt it. Rejecting a good idea
> > because of process wonkery is stupid.
>
> Really? Does thi
2012/1/22 MZMcBride :
> Strainu wrote:
>> Has anyone made an analysis on what the license change would mean to
>> Wikipedia? Looking at the ODbL FAQ on the OSM website, it seems that
>> using maps would not be affected. But what about using data from OSM
>> in our articles? Also, my unterstanding i
On 01/21/2012 11:13 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy
"[…] regardless of […] preferred Creative Commons license […]"
I use the GNU General Public License v3 / GNU Free Documentation License
v1.3, as commanded by Saint IGNUcius, you insensitive clod!
On 21 January 2012 22:57, MZMcBride wrote:
> David, I'm a bit surprised that you think a policy that includes the
> language "Sexual language and imagery is not appropriate for any conference
> venue or talks." is a good idea. I think it'd be difficult to have a
> discussion about Wikimedia Commo
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