This isn't the kind of compromise that we should be making.
On 12/31/11, Zack Exley wrote:
> Hi everyone -
>
> It's a trade off between doing things that might annoy some people in the
> banners vs. reducing the number of days we need to run banners at all. It's
> hard to find the right balance.
Hi Thomas
I really dont
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>
> There were numerous non-Jimmy banners used during the fundraiser because
> they were tested and proved to work well. The Jimmy banners were used
> extensively too because they still perform very well in the tests,
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011
Start at the bottom.
Ryan Kaldari
On 1/3/12 4:44 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Thomas Daltonwrote:
>
>> On 3 January 2012 22:36, Theo10011 wrote:
>>> WMF started the email campaign last year for the first time I'm assuming
>
> *In future, I suggest you pay more attention rather than asking such
> ill-informed questions. I wasn't involved in the tests - everything I've
> said in this email came from the reports the fundraising team published
> before and during the fundraiser. If you had bothered to read them, you
> w
On Jan 4, 2012 12:44 AM, "Theo10011" wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> > The WMF's conclusions about what banners work best are based on
> > extensive testing. What are yours based on?
>
>
> My guts.
>
> BTW How have those tests worked out? You know the ones that we
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 3 January 2012 22:36, Theo10011 wrote:
> > WMF started the email campaign last year for the first time I'm assuming,
> > we used it this year as well. We had a period of several months before
> the
> > fundraiser, that fundraising team con
If anyone is feeling inspired by the ideas in this thread and would like to
propose a fellowship project aimed at attracting and retaining more
editors, the WMF Community Fellowship application process is still open:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships
>
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> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:08:12 -0800
> From: Erik Moeller
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors
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> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, James Heilman
On 3 January 2012 22:36, Theo10011 wrote:
> WMF started the email campaign last year for the first time I'm assuming,
> we used it this year as well. We had a period of several months before the
> fundraiser, that fundraising team conducted tests to replace Jimmy, the
> fundraiser started and look
On 1/3/12 3:30 PM, Michael Snow wrote:
> On 1/3/2012 3:08 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>> The Feedback Dashboard itself has response mechanisms, including
>> now a "Mark as Helpful" feature for new users to quickly acknowledge
>> whether a given response has been useful to them.
> Not disputing that t
On 1/3/2012 3:08 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> The Feedback Dashboard itself has response mechanisms, including
> now a "Mark as Helpful" feature for new users to quickly acknowledge
> whether a given response has been useful to them.
Not disputing that the talk page system might have bigger issues, bu
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, James Heilman wrote:
> The fundraiser for money has been working exceedingly well with our
> number of donors increasing 10 fold since 2008. What we need now is a
> fundraiser for editors. I meet well educated professionals who use
> Wikipedia but have no ideas that
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Domas Mituzas
> wrote:
> > This year pictures at top left, blinking banners, etc - are becoming a
> norm.
>
> This is simply untrue hyperbole. The fader was used in the same way as
> last year, at the same time
Full support here!
2012/1/3 Pharos
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Przykuta wrote:
> >> >
> >> I agree cities are probably better, but I don't think that's really the
> >> best place to start editing Wikipedia either, because it's an area where
> >> it's really easy for new users to mistakenl
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote:
> This year pictures at top left, blinking banners, etc - are becoming a norm.
This is simply untrue hyperbole. The fader was used in the same way as
last year, at the same time. (In fact, I think last year they used the
word "urgent", which I
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Przykuta wrote:
>> >
>> I agree cities are probably better, but I don't think that's really the
>> best place to start editing Wikipedia either, because it's an area where
>> it's really easy for new users to mistakenly think that they should
>> write content based
> >
> I agree cities are probably better, but I don't think that's really the
> best place to start editing Wikipedia either, because it's an area where
> it's really easy for new users to mistakenly think that they should
> write content based on their personal experience rather than on sources
On 1/3/12 1:41 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Pharos wrote:
>
>> I would pitch it as a simple appeal to edit the Wikipedia article on
>> your hometown (or home neighborhood if you're from a big city).
>>
>> In my experience, something like this has been attractive to
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 17:54, Nathan wrote:
> In fairness to the Foundation, they did have a very public strategic
> planning process and they do seem to be adhering to the outcome of
> that process. From what I saw, a pretty fair amount of the strategic
> planning output and outcomes were driven
I know this is somewhat out of topic. Sorry about that. Technical
discussions should go elsewhere.
(11/12/28 6:39), Yao Ziyuan wrote:
> If Wikipedia can implement the things I talked about so far (topic-specific
> chat rooms, forums, topic-specific resource announcement and discovery)
> right on w
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Tom Morris wrote:
>
> Would it be an idea to have some kind of RfC or something like that on
> Meta where community members could come up with a list of things we
> roughly agree are the limits for fundraising.
>
> I think the fundraising team have done really well
On 1/3/12 9:28 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> they want it so that if they've donated it removes the banner for the
> rest of the fundraiser.
This was in place for this year's fundraiser, so I'm surprised to see it
on the list...
pb
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On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 14:50, Stephen Bain wrote:
> Fabricating a sense of urgency that donations are immediately
> necessary at the end of the campaign to keep the projects operational
> and freely available (ie, "Please help Wikipedia pay its bills in
> 2012" [1], "Last day to make a tax-deducti
James Heilman, 03/01/2012 17:36:
> I am not suggesting that we use just a simple banner. We need to
> create something with a picture of a Wikipedian with text like "join
> us in improving the world leading encyclopedia, click here to learn
> how."
>
> Than when people click it will ask them "what
Yes. the same thing has done in Tamil Wikipedia.
We displayed users from different area of interest.
Example: My banner reads
"Surya Prakash is a 2nd year Engineering student who is editing Chemistry,
Physics related articles in Wikipedia. You too can edit!"
with my picture. :) (Click here to s
I am not suggesting that we use just a simple banner. We need to
create something with a picture of a Wikipedian with text like "join
us in improving the world leading encyclopedia, click here to learn
how."
Than when people click it will ask them "what sort of subject area are
you interested in"
I'm on the same page as the last three posts to this thread, and
thanks guys for saying it in a reasonable and non-confrontational
manner.
~Nathan
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On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>
> A fundraising campaign is not a switch-on/switch-off affair. It has an
> arc. It's that arc that helps it be successful. This is the last day
> of the campaign, and a final invitation to give to reach our goal. It
> should communicate a sens
Hi!
[...]
> I'd say (nearly?) everyone was pretty surprised when I sort of hemmed
[...]
Mark wrote it very much the way I feel about it - I talk to lots of people, and
they've been donating in early days or few years ago, but they stopped donating
lately - and they are still reading our annual
Yes, the Great United States of America is a POV pusher country which is
lobbying to create new laws to protect its IP industry overseas.
2012/1/3 Kim Bruning
>
> Looks like .us is pushing other countries to implement similar laws, eg.
> .es :
>
>
> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/03/0241248
@Amir.
Thanks for citing Tamil Wikipedia here. Actually it was a GREAT success in
Tamil Wiki. We got many talented editors & thousands of new registrations.
Actually I am not mentioning the number here but people got to know that
"what Wikipedia actually is! & the community behind the project"
O
Looks like .us is pushing other countries to implement similar laws, eg. .es :
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/03/0241248/spanish-website-blocking-law-implemented
sincerely,
Kim Bruning
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Keegan Peterzell, 03/01/2012 08:41:
> Big cities usually work a lot better than small towns or medium sized
> cities, where inclusion of local places are often reverted due to lack
> of assertions of notability.
>
> English Wikipeidia user Chzz inspired an essay that I host, for new users
> strictl
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