Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

Well thanks for the invite, and I voted. Same here two invites, and also I got the mail a little late, cause the voting is already half over. I blogged about this as well http://undeletewikipedia.blogspot.com/2011/06/funny-voting-for-wikimedia-board-of.html mike On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM,

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On 10/06/2011 5:55 PM, Sarah wrote: > [...] that the software is actively inviting all accounts that meet > those requirements, it means we're alerting all the socks that they're > able to vote. They might otherwise not even have remembered some of > the accounts the software is reminding them of.

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:13 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 10 June 2011 21:05, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > >> This doesn't have to be complicated. How about 3 strikes, you're out? Get >> banned from 3 projects and you automatically qualify for a global ban. >> There's no sense in wasting hundreds of man

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

Oh wait, On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Yann Forget wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I also received one, with >> >> {{GENDER:Yann|Cher|Chère|Cher/Chère}} Yann, >> >> Well, is this an attempt to be politically correct for BTGL? ;o) > > Ha, looks

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

I forgot to say there are not website bugs, so much as browser bugs. Or just an extremely different interface. Perhaps a great mobile browser could be built to effectively kill apps. But is not something website changes could address. IMHO BirgitteSB Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

You are third person to respond as if my email was about me personally looking for help editing. And the second to snip my writing out of all context. Steven seemed to actually get what my concern was. You can hate whatever you like, or dislike as the case may be. It is not going to help WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

Yes I eventually found that app. And it is much superior to editing from the browser. But it doesn't support ProofreadPage extension. Still between the app and browser it is definitely workable with two edits. My concern is much more that the reading/navigation experience seems to be driving pe

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On 06/10/2011 11:55 PM, Sarah wrote: > 2011/6/10 Jon Harald Søby : >> As Shane said, there are built-in features in the SecurePoll software >> that help us to control for sockpuppeting, so we are pretty safe. >> Sockpuppeting in a large enough scale to influence an election of this >> size would al

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

2011/6/10 Jon Harald Søby : > As Shane said, there are built-in features in the SecurePoll software > that help us to control for sockpuppeting, so we are pretty safe. > Sockpuppeting in a large enough scale to influence an election of this > size would also be very difficult to pull through, and p

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

As Shane said, there are built-in features in the SecurePoll software that help us to control for sockpuppeting, so we are pretty safe. Sockpuppeting in a large enough scale to influence an election of this size would also be very difficult to pull through, and practically impossible to do undetect

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

> On 10 June 2011 22:19, Sarah wrote: >> I've received two invitations to vote -- also both at the same e-mail >> address -- so all I'd have to do now (if it were a user name that >> didn't make it obvious it was mine) is go somewhere else to vote. And >> given how low the voting requirements are

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

Perhaps. Although with that said nearly 1000 people have voted today - compared to between 100-200 on the previous days (excepting the 29th, first day, which had about 600-800). So it's a case of; is the risk worth the reward? Tom On 10 June 2011 22:19, Sarah wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:22 -0700, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > This doesn't have to be complicated. How about 3 strikes, you're out? Get > banned from 3 projects and you automatically qualify for a global ban. > There's no sense in wasting hundreds of manhours trying to coordinate > information and re

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 14:38, Shane Simmons wrote: > Well, the SecurePoll extension has multiple measures built-in that allow for > easy sock detection. It captures some data in addition to the username that > would help eliminate those votes. > > On a side note: would a simple check for duplicat

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 13:58, Sarah wrote: >Thanks, Phoebe. That seems awfully low, and makes sockpuppetry a lot >easier, particularly given that people's multiple accounts are being >invited to vote. Well, the SecurePoll extension has multiple measures built-in that allow for easy sock detection

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

On 10 June 2011 21:05, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > This doesn't have to be complicated. How about 3 strikes, you're out? Get > banned from 3 projects and you automatically qualify for a global ban. > There's no sense in wasting hundreds of manhours trying to coordinate > information and responses acros

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On 6/10/11 3:30 PM, Yann Forget wrote: > Hello, > > I also received one, with > > {{GENDER:Yann|Cher|Chère|Cher/Chère}} Yann, > > Well, is this an attempt to be politically correct for BTGL? ;o) > > Regards, > > Yann Yes, this one was very cute :) I also liked the "Le comité directeur est l'orga

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

This doesn't have to be complicated. How about 3 strikes, you're out? Get banned from 3 projects and you automatically qualify for a global ban. There's no sense in wasting hundreds of manhours trying to coordinate information and responses across dozens of projects for users that are clearly probl

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:38 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 3 June 2011 17:21, Newyorkbrad wrote: > >>> Poetlister is the level of case where project autonomy is an actively >>> bad idea. e.g. en.wikiquote deciding to demonstrate their independence >>> of en:wp by letting him onto the Checkuser list

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:49, phoebe ayers wrote: > Hey Sarah -- the voting requirements are here -- > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/en#Requirements > > 300 edits, 20 recent ones -- the requirements were roughly halved from > the last elections. There's discussion about this

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011/6/10 : > In setting up my iPad this is what shocked me. > It is near impossible to edit a wiki. Well that wasn't > to worrisome. I figured "there's an app for that". I hate the whole idea of "apps" for accessing websites through iPhone, iPad, Android, OVI or whatever. And i hate it with a p

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Sarah wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:16, Béria Lima wrote: >> I receveid two mails: >> >> 1. To my main account (Beria) in portuguese. >> >> 2. To one of my bot accounts, in english. >> >> So, i will guess that the language is chosen based in the home wiki (m

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wiki-research-l] Summaries of recent Wikipedia research

Fwd'ing to F-l in case you did not read the Signpost this week... this is WONDERFUL, thank you so much to the Signpost and to the Research Committee. The amount of research done on and about Wikipedia has grown substantially over the last few years, and has gotten a good deal more sophisticated as

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > In this case, the bot qualified on Norwegian Wikipedia. > > It's looking like global bots which aren't flagged everywhere are an > edge case that should be addressed next time around. I for one welcome our new interwiki bot overlords. Than

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

Now we know why all the bots were invited to vote this year ;P -Tinu Cherian On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 06/10/2011 08:09 AM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > > Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for > > Board elections :) > > I'd

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

I totally agree with Steven and I think we really want to make this easier (especially for small edits). I use a nice app called "Wiki Edit" on my Ipad (along with some random editing on the browser) which is actually pretty nice (and handles wiki text well given the limitations). It works for basi

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

On 06/10/2011 08:09 AM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for > Board elections :) I'd like to take this opportunity to remind all the bots who have yet to vote that, as a bot writer and supporter, I pledge to keep their interests in

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

Andrew Garrett wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Béria Lima wrote: >> Well, i received a mail to my global bot account (Ripchip Bot) and the bot >> has - at least - 60 local bot flags. So we should assume there are no >> checking for bot flags at all. > > In this case, the bot qualified

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:16, Béria Lima wrote: > I receveid two mails: > > 1. To my main account (Beria) in portuguese. > > 2. To one of my bot accounts, in english. > > So, i will guess that the language is chosen based in the home wiki (my bot > has more edits in en.wiki than in pt.wiki) > ___

Re: [Foundation-l] About the low hanging fruit

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:17:18 +0100, WereSpielChequers wrote: > I wouldn't describe a short article as "hardly useful for creation" I > created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Pass,_California only > three years and already the current article is five times the size of > what I created. It

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 14:37, Анатолій Гончаров wrote: > My bot was invited: user AHbot Does he (she?) have an opinion? :) g ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foun

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Béria Lima wrote: > Well, i received a mail to my global bot account (Ripchip Bot) and the bot > has - at least - 60 local bot flags. So we should assume there are no > checking for bot flags at all. In this case, the bot qualified on Norwegian Wikipedia. It's l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

Well, i received a mail to my global bot account (Ripchip Bot) and the bot has - at least - 60 local bot flags. So we should assume there are no checking for bot flags at all. _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

I receveid two mails: 1. To my main account (Beria) in portuguese. 2. To one of my bot accounts, in english. So, i will guess that the language is chosen based in the home wiki (my bot has more edits in en.wiki than in pt.wiki) _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

May be it is a good idea to exclude accounts that has blog flag in at least one wiki. If it has bot has blog flag on at least one wiki, the global account can be considered as a bot. Otherwise it would give undue advantage to the bot operators like me for voting more than once ;) Regards Tinu Cher

Re: [Foundation-l] About the low hanging fruit

Strongly agree - they are very worthwhile indeed. They give others in future the confidence to add incremental changes. A blank page is harder to broach. What matters more is whether the article has scope to be encyclopedic. Traditional encyclopedias often had one sentence or 2 line entries as wel

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Yann Forget wrote: > Hello, > > I also received one, with > > {{GENDER:Yann|Cher|Chère|Cher/Chère}} Yann, > > Well, is this an attempt to be politically correct for BTGL? ;o) Ha, looks like we need to give better instructions to the translators next time :-) --

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

Hello, I also received one, with {{GENDER:Yann|Cher|Chère|Cher/Chère}} Yann, Well, is this an attempt to be politically correct for BTGL? ;o) Regards, Yann 2011/6/10 Amir E. Aharoni : > Hallo, > > I just received an email (see below) that invites me to participate in > the elections. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Sarah wrote: > I was invited to vote too, as was a little-used alternative account of > mine, one that's obviously mine from the name. Sorry, there were 43,000 accounts to email. I've used SUL to filter for duplicates, but we could hardly filter them for duplicat

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Amir E. Aharoni >> wrote: >> > There are several technical issues with it: >> > >> > 1. I already voted. It may be a good idea to send this only to people >> > who didn't. I was invited to vote too, as was a little-used alternative account of mine, one that's

[Foundation-l] About the low hanging fruit

I wouldn't describe a short article as "hardly useful for creation" I created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Pass,_California only three years and already the current article is five times the size of what I created. It still has some of my original content, and some has been spunoff into a

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

2011/6/10 Andrew Garrett > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: > > There are several technical issues with it: > > > > 1. I already voted. It may be a good idea to send this only to people > > who didn't. > > I don't think this is possible. > The list of accounts which ha

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

>> I also got one, even though one of my accounts (to which is was sent) is >> globally blocked, and another one has an insufficient number of edits and >> both are thus ineligible to vote. I only got the e-mail in English, but I >> assume this is because I use English interface in all projects. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for > Board elections :) This bot isn't flagged on all wikis that it's eligible to vote. In particular, azwiki (I think). Accounts on wikis with blocked and bot accou

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:06:14 +0300, "Amir E. Aharoni" > wrote: >> Hallo, >> >> I just received an email (see below) that invites me to participate in >> the elections. >> >> There are several technical issues with it: >> > > I also

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > There are several technical issues with it: > > 1. I already voted. It may be a good idea to send this only to people > who didn't. I don't think this is possible. > 2. The subject says "2009". Whoops. I updated everything except the su

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:06:14 +0300, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote: > Hallo, > > I just received an email (see below) that invites me to participate in > the elections. > > There are several technical issues with it: > I also got one, even though one of my accounts (to which is was sent) is globally

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

My bot was invited: user AHbot 2011/6/10 > > Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for > Board elections :) > > -Tinu Cherian > -- Анатолій Гончаров mailto:ah...@wikimediaukraine.org.ua ICQ: 364-176-156 ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] About the low-hanging fruit

>> You have an expert knowledge in this topic, namely the knowledge of >> Russian language. Most of English Wikipedia editors don't. >> <...> > > Most unilingual English editors are surprised by the vast quantity of > low hanging fruit. Out of curiosity at one time I looked up the fairly > comm

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

I think it is based on your home project :) I voted from meta, but got an email in Dutch - which is almost only on nlwiki my preferred language. I made some other suggestions on how to improve the email next time, maybe it would make sense to collect other suggestions there too: http://meta.wikimed

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

On the contrary, I'm quite happy: the system recognized that my bot is mainly active on Wikiquote and is Italian although its home wiki is Wikipedia and it's not active on it.wikiquote. :) Errors are annoying but thank you very much to the sysadmin who volunteered for that (Andrew Garrett, I sup

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

I think the system did NOT work for you :) It seems strange to send the same email in several languages. I only received it in Romanian. I think this is taken based on your language preferences (on meta?) Strainu 2011/6/10 Amir E. Aharoni : > Hallo, > > I just received an email (see below) that i

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

Certainly is, even more puzzling is my email for Thehelpfulbot, 2011/6/10 Wikimedia Board Elections Committee < board-electi...@lists.wikimedia.org> > Liebe(r) Thehelpfulbot, > > Du bist berechtigt, bei der Wahl des Kuratoriums der Wikimedia Foundation > im Jahre 2011 mit abzustimmen, die Projekt

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 ( 2011 ? ) & Bots

Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for Board elections :) -Tinu Cherian -- Forwarded message -- From: Wikimedia Board Elections Committee < board-electi...@lists.wikimedia.org> Date: Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:26 PM Subject: Wikimedia Foundation Electi

[Foundation-l] Elections email

Hallo, I just received an email (see below) that invites me to participate in the elections. There are several technical issues with it: 1. I already voted. It may be a good idea to send this only to people who didn't. 2. The subject says "2009". 3. The email is sent in English and Hebrew. I d

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

Hello Birgitte, Those same worries came up in me when I saw a video about the "Discover" app: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DSBEmkeUzQ In a contribution to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kurier/Ausgabe_7_2010 I compared those new apps with the clones around 2005, with the difference, th