Re: [Foundation-l] Farsi wikipedia now has 150000 articles

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Re: [Foundation-l] Referent list of wikis?

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Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia intheir native language

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On 23 May 2011 00:03, FT2 wrote: > Out of interest, when a BLP is created and not speedy deleted, could we not > write a standard email to the subject stating that a biographical article > has been created on them on the online encyclopedia "Wikipedia", inviting > them to review it, explaining wha

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

Sorry Milos, systematic bias at work there :) I mean... English Wikipedia has the largest collection of content, and on average I would guess that the content is of a higher, or at least a more complete, quality than most other language wiki's. Computer forensics... is relatively decent on en-wp;

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

> my personal interpretation is that BLP failings were more likely to be seen and more likely to cause some kind of real or perceived harm, leading to a greater response rate. I suppose that if your a notable figure... you probably take a look to see if a Wikipedia article exists... and even mone

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: >(excellent long form work) Thank you, Milos. Very informative. Out of curiosity - I assume those are the "native speakers" counts for that language. Do we have "exclusive speakers" counts as well? I don't know for sure what the right answe

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 05/22/2011 06:41 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: >> An interesting "aside" on this would be... >> >> What is the quality of the foreign-language Wiki's that currently exist. For >> example; the articles in my specific technical topic area have a

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

Out of interest, when a BLP is created and not speedy deleted, could we not write a standard email to the subject stating that a biographical article has been created on them on the online encyclopedia "Wikipedia", inviting them to review it, explaining what it's about, and pointing them to remedie

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 22 May 2011 23:03, Andrew Gray wrote: > Writing to someone involved with the issue personally is always more > complicated, especially if they're - justifiably - angry or worried > about the situation. The problems are often quite complex, so can sit > longer while people consider how to appro

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 16:03, Andrew Gray wrote: > On 22 May 2011 19:58, Sarah wrote: > >> The BLP problem is a very divisive one on the English Wikipedia, but >> it's not entirely clear how grounded it is in fact. Sometimes we're >> told OTRS is overwhelmed by the number of BLP complaints, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Referent list of wikis?

Milos Rancic, 22/05/2011 11:29: > Do we have a referent list of wikis? Although it would be good to have > the list of *all* Wikimedia wikis, just the list of content projects > wikis would be fine. Do you mean something like http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix ? Nemo

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 22 May 2011 19:58, Sarah wrote: > The BLP problem is a very divisive one on the English Wikipedia, but > it's not entirely clear how grounded it is in fact. Sometimes we're > told OTRS is overwhelmed by the number of BLP complaints, but no > figures are given. > > Some hard stats -- X number o

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 22/05/2011 21:04, Fred Bauder wrote: >> > > By the way, I think this NYT"s article: > > https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/22/us/22gossip.html?ref=todayspaper > > "The Gossip Machine, Churning Out Cash" > > may be of some relevance. I don't think we should pander in this way, > regardless of public

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On 05/22/2011 06:41 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > An interesting "aside" on this would be... > > What is the quality of the foreign-language Wiki's that currently exist. For > example; the articles in my specific technical topic area have a few foreign > language equivalents. Most are two or three li

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

> > Well, whatever he meant, it isn't his decision. The WMF's legal dept > has recently published their draft policies, which includes one on > subpoenas [1]. It basically says that, unless lives are at stake, they > will only comply with US subpoenas. For US subpoenas, they'll decide > whether to

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 22 May 2011 20:39, Sarah wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 13:33, wrote: >> On 22/05/2011 19:32, Sarah wrote: >>> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:00,  wrote: On 22/05/2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: > Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has > reve

Re: [Foundation-l] Farsi wikipedia now has 150000 articles

On May 22, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Mardetanha wrote: > Dear all fellow wikipedian and wikimedians > I am so pleased to announce some minutes ago Farsi wikipedia has reached > 15 articles. > > > Mardetanha Congratulations! -Dan ___ foundation-l maili

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 13:33, wrote: > On 22/05/2011 19:32, Sarah wrote: >> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:00,  wrote: >>> On 22/05/2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has revealed the identity of the footballer in

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 22/05/2011 19:32, Sarah wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:00, wrote: >> On 22/05/2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: >>> Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has revealed >>> the identity of the footballer in question, on the grounds that English >>> superinjuncti

[Foundation-l] Farsi wikipedia now has 150000 articles

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Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

Дана Sunday 22 May 2011 19:53:20 wjhon...@aol.com написа: > So if you are claiming that the sole differences are pronunciation, then > this language should be removed from the list of ones lacking a project. > I'm not certain however that that claim can be supported. Given that no one of us is pa

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 21:22, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > I asked Christine to do a quick scan, what follows is her response: > > *There isn't an exact "BLP" queue in OTRS; there is one for overall quality > (called, what else, Quality) which is where a lot of the BLP concerns go, as > they are q

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:00, wrote: > On 22/05/2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: >> Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has revealed >> the identity of the footballer in question, on the grounds that English >> superinjunctions don't apply in Scotland. >> >> Perha

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

In a message dated 5/22/2011 10:39:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, andreeng...@gmail.com writes: > In Chinese writing a character shows a word, irrespective of how the > word is pronounced. So if we would use a Chinese style writing system, > you could write [your] [dog] [is] [dead], and a Frenchma

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

> On 22/05/2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: >> Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has >> revealed >> the identity of the footballer in question, on the grounds that English >> superinjunctions don't apply in Scotland. >> >> Perhaps the WMF should open an office in Edinb

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

> In a message dated 5/22/2011 9:31:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > fredb...@fairpoint.net writes: > > >> Legally, Wikipedia is private property belonging to a nonprofit >> corporation. If the United States government, or some other government, >> owned it and regulated it in such a way as to guaran

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:13 PM, wrote: > You're missing my point. > All the Latin languages "share a common writing system" and "only differ in > the way the language is spoken". > > Address the point that the "words" within the system have the same semantic > *meaning* and are formed with the

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language (Milos Rancic)

I agree Meta would be the right place for such a table. But a few other columns would be helpful: 1 Technical barriers. Do we need to make changes to Media Wiki Software, and are we dependent on changes to Lynux etc in order to enable people to edit in that language? 2 Literate population. This al

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

Hoi, Please read about the Chinese language and writing system. It helps you to understand. Thanks, GerardM On 22 May 2011 18:42, wrote: > In a message dated 5/22/2011 4:38:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > smole...@eunet.rs writes: > > > > Aren't these languages written with Chinese charact

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

In a message dated 5/22/2011 9:53:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, li...@caseybrown.org writes: > Indeed, it doesn't mean that necessarily. However, your analogy > doesn't apply in this situation and Nikola was right. Many of the > Chinese languages share a common writing system and only differ in

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 22/05/2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: > Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has revealed > the identity of the footballer in question, on the grounds that English > superinjunctions don't apply in Scotland. > > Perhaps the WMF should open an office in Edinburgh, if L

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 22 May 2011 17:22, geni wrote: > On 22 May 2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: >> Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has revealed >> the identity of the footballer in question, on the grounds that English >> superinjunctions don't apply in Scotland. > > I rather doubt

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM, wrote: >> Aren't these languages written with Chinese characters and thus their >> speakers can read and write the Chinese Wikipedia? >> > > All the Latin languages: Italian, French, Spanish, English, and so on are > written with Latin characters: a, b, c, d, e a

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

In a message dated 5/22/2011 9:31:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, fredb...@fairpoint.net writes: > Legally, Wikipedia is private property belonging to a nonprofit > corporation. If the United States government, or some other government, > owned it and regulated it in such a way as to guarantee publ

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

In a message dated 5/22/2011 4:38:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, smole...@eunet.rs writes: > Aren't these languages written with Chinese characters and thus their > speakers can read and write the Chinese Wikipedia? > All the Latin languages: Italian, French, Spanish, English, and so on are wri

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

An interesting "aside" on this would be... What is the quality of the foreign-language Wiki's that currently exist. For example; the articles in my specific technical topic area have a few foreign language equivalents. Most are two or three lines. It would be interesting to see this question expa

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

> I'm note sure I understand... Wikipedia is privately owned by the > foundation. There is no real definition of "public website", but I > suppose a > government website would be publicly owned (although that raises an > interesting question as to your rights to access/contribute to such a > websit

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

> As it is the community does regulate it in that way. No. People are banned or restricted all the time. The point of WP:FREESPEECH is to point out that those bannings can't be contested under the premise that the banned party has a right to edit. Yes, the community does regulate it this way. Tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > Also; hard to see anyone suing you for communicating the info for the > purposes of supressing it :-) > > Tom Morton A few years ago, I would have said the same about communicating the info for the purposes of free press. --Dan ___

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

I'm note sure I understand... Wikipedia is privately owned by the foundation. There is no real definition of "public website", but I suppose a government website would be publicly owned (although that raises an interesting question as to your rights to access/contribute to such a website). The poi

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

> In a message dated 5/22/2011 8:23:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > morton.tho...@googlemail.com writes: > > >> But the idea that "I have a right to edit Wikipedia" or "You >> have no right to do that" is incorrect, because WP is a private >> website. >> >> > > You make the word "private" have no me

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

Thank you for your answer. I discovered that Wikipedia was not a bureaucracy[1] in the link you gave, that's encouraging. :) [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_bureaucracy Le 22/05/2011 12:23, Thomas Morton a écrit : > Yes. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

> On 22 May 2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: >> Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has >> revealed >> the identity of the footballer in question, on the grounds that English >> superinjunctions don't apply in Scotland. > > I rather doubt that is their legal position. T

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

In a message dated 5/22/2011 8:23:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, morton.tho...@googlemail.com writes: > But the idea that "I have a right to edit Wikipedia" or "You > have no right to do that" is incorrect, because WP is a private website. > > You make the word "private" have no meaning. What w

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

> If the consensus of the community is to ban you from the project, even > under > spurious grounds, there is nothing to stop them from doing so. > > Tom Community consensus will not permit that. Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 22 May 2011 11:58, Chris Keating wrote: > Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has revealed > the identity of the footballer in question, on the grounds that English > superinjunctions don't apply in Scotland. I rather doubt that is their legal position. There is pas

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

> Le 22/05/2011 10:54, Thomas Morton a écrit : >> we have no >> "rights" to participate in Wikipedia. > Regardless of the debate from where it comes, is this an accurate > decription of the rules and policies of Wikipedia? Anyone who is willing and able to edit constructively and more or less fol

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

In a message dated 5/22/2011 1:35:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk writes: > There are many core problems that affect this issue. One of which is > 'Verifiability not truth' which seems a laudable concept when applied to > hearsay, and to allow articles on the paranorma

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

"Dead wood" has been suggested, but I strongly disagree with it. While there are issues and it needs careful work (nobody's denying that) I'm not seeing hard evidence that so many BLPs - even minor BLPs - are the train wreck that some represent nor as hard to manage as some portray. What I wouldn'

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

Yes. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FREESPEECH Obviously you have your normal legal rights (i.e. if someone does something illegal, then it is a courts matter). But the idea that "I have a right to edit Wikipedia" or "You have no righ

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On 05/22/2011 04:57 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > On Sun, 22 May 2011 14:08:14 +0200, Milos Rancic > wrote: >> On 05/22/2011 01:22 PM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: >>> Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans >>> who don't have Wikipedia in any language they speak rea

[Foundation-l] No rights to participate

Le 22/05/2011 10:54, Thomas Morton a écrit : > we have no > "rights" to participate in Wikipedia. Regardless of the debate from where it comes, is this an accurate decription of the rules and policies of Wikipedia? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On Sun, 22 May 2011 14:08:14 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 05/22/2011 01:22 PM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: >> Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans >> who don't have Wikipedia in any language they speak reasonably well >> (understanding very well that this is a hard

Re: [Foundation-l] Referent list of wikis?

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Just because of three letters code conflict between Swiss German and > Albanian (als), I've realized that somebody listed Swiss German to have > Wikinews edition (it is, actually, news portal at Wikipedia) and nobody > bothered to remove it.

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Yes. That was me, I notified him after asking on the list if anyone else had. Tom On 22 May 2011 15:01, Dror Kamir wrote: > Apparently, this has already been done by others. SD preferred to erase > this head-up along with some other notifications about complaints > against him. > > http://en.wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Apparently, this has already been done by others. SD preferred to erase this head-up along with some other notifications about complaints against him. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness&diff=next&oldid=430329545 Dror K בתאריך 22/05/11 14:00, ציטוט Thomas

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Dror, this is not about "anti-" or "pro-" whoever camps. But you have made a serious allegation on a public and archived mailing list. It's only fair that Supreme Deliciousness is informed and allowed a right of reply. Pete / the wub On 22 May 2011 14:40, Dror Kamir wrote: > Tom, since you did

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Hi Dror K, Don't get me wrong; I have no knowledge of this dispute (other than you seem to have been blocked for disrupting Wikipedia) and no real interest in which side is accurate (though being topic banned and socking is not doing you many favours). But I am interested in this specific issue.

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Those are preliminary results. We have two chapters (and strategic > focus) in countries of the list above. Inside of the longer list, which > should be verified, we have more chapters. I noted that there are even > two languages of Germany w

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

Hi Milos, thanks for those interesting facts! On 05/22/2011 01:15 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Those are preliminary results. We have two chapters (and strategic > focus) in countries of the list above. Inside of the longer list, > which should be verified, we have more chapters. I noted that there

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Tom, since you did not respect my last message here, you force me to react. There seem to be "anti-Dror" and "pro-Dror" camps here, and I don't like this idea at all. The issue is not entirely personal, even though I am personally attacked here by certain people based on their mere speculations

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On 05/22/2011 03:20 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Yea, but how much is any of these different? They may be practically the > same or possible to be added as a variant of Chinese. I don't know, but the known fact is that even the languages in the closest families, like Slavic languages are, have di

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On 05/22/2011 03:22 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 14:32 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: >> On 05/22/2011 01:28 PM, George Herbert wrote: >>> Can you break this out by which languages we are missing, not just >> by >>> country, as country isn't specific enough? >> >> Waiting for lis

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 14:32 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 05/22/2011 01:28 PM, George Herbert wrote: > > Can you break this out by which languages we are missing, not just > by > > country, as country isn't specific enough? > > Waiting for list admins to allow ~250k mail :) If only someone woul

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 14:47 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 05/22/2011 01:37 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 13:15 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: > >> * Jin Chinese, 45M, China > >> * Xiang Chinese, 36, China, incubator > >> * Min Bei Chinese, 10.3M, China, incubator > > > > Aren

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On 05/22/2011 01:37 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 13:15 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: >> * Jin Chinese, 45M, China >> * Xiang Chinese, 36, China, incubator >> * Min Bei Chinese, 10.3M, China, incubator > > Aren't these languages written with Chinese characters and thus their > s

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On 05/22/2011 01:28 PM, George Herbert wrote: > Good work generally, but regarding this last list... > > Afghanistan has many languages in use (Pashto, Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek); > Algeria uses Arabic, Berber, and French; Jordan's official language > is Arabic (though the spoken one is a dialect); an

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On 05/22/2011 01:22 PM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: > Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans who > don't have Wikipedia in any language they speak reasonably well > (understanding very well that this is a hard problem of definition)? I would say that the number humans

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 13:15 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: > * Jin Chinese, 45M, China > * Xiang Chinese, 36, China, incubator > * Min Bei Chinese, 10.3M, China, incubator Aren't these languages written with Chinese characters and thus their speakers can read and write the Chinese Wikipedia? ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Yeh :-) sorry about that Tom On 22 May 2011, at 12:26, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote: > 2011/5/22 Thomas Morton : >> Supreme Deliciousness, whose actions are being discussed... >> >> I noted that he hadn't been told so dropped him a note as common courtesy. > > Oh. > > This initialism may be well-kno

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > I am preparing document for Wikimania. Presently, I am in process of > analyzing data (SIL [1], Ethnologue [2], Wikimedia projects). I am using > Ethnologue data for population estimates. > > Before I started this task, I thought that the situ

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011/5/22 Thomas Morton : > Supreme Deliciousness, whose actions are being discussed... > > I noted that he hadn't been told so dropped him a note as common courtesy. Oh. This initialism may be well-known to some English Wikipedia editors, but not to all of them, and certainly not to all members

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans who don't have Wikipedia in any language they speak reasonably well (understanding very well that this is a hard problem of definition)? Curious. On May 22, 2011, at 14:15, Milos Rancic wrote: > I am preparing document for

[Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

I am preparing document for Wikimania. Presently, I am in process of analyzing data (SIL [1], Ethnologue [2], Wikimedia projects). I am using Ethnologue data for population estimates. Before I started this task, I thought that the situation is not so bad (or good, if it is about possibility for de

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Supreme Deliciousness, whose actions are being discussed... I noted that he hadn't been told so dropped him a note as common courtesy. Tom On 22 May 2011 11:58, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2011/5/22 Thomas Morton : > > Has anyone notified SD about this discussion? Pretty much essential given > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011/5/22 Thomas Morton : > Has anyone notified SD about this discussion? Pretty much essential given > the allegations made by Dror K (which are clearly unfounded, but may be > damaging). Notified whom? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com "We're livi

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

Also rather interestingly, it appears that a Scottish newspaper has revealed the identity of the footballer in question, on the grounds that English superinjunctions don't apply in Scotland. Perhaps the WMF should open an office in Edinburgh, if London is too risky ;-) Chris _

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Has anyone notified SD about this discussion? Pretty much essential given the allegations made by Dror K (which are clearly unfounded, but may be damaging). Tom ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

For the record, upon the advice of a member of this mailing list, I sent details about this affairs to the ombudsman team. I also added a complaint about the "sock-puppet" list to which Mr. Herbert had given reference. I'll let the team deal with it, and, for the time being, say nothing that mi

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Hoi, Agreed. Thanks, GerardM On 22 May 2011 10:38, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2011/5/22 Ryan Lomonaco : > > That said, to me, I don't see any stalking whatsoever. It is common when > > investigating sockpuppets to send evidence privately to other trusted > users, > > so that the (suspected)

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

Well, the CTB Superinjunction is now broken in a number of places on en.wikipedia. So there we go. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

On 05/21/2011 02:12 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > It's clear that there's a need for community broadcasting tools that > allow for a degree of personal flexibility, whether it's by means of > subscription or otherwise. I agree, this would fix almost all problem instantly. Although it does not replace

[Foundation-l] Referent list of wikis?

Do we have a referent list of wikis? Although it would be good to have the list of *all* Wikimedia wikis, just the list of content projects wikis would be fine. The page Complete list of Wikimedia projects [1] is not referent at all. It's not about the fact that it is on wiki, but exactly because

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011/5/22 Ryan Lomonaco : > That said, to me, I don't see any stalking whatsoever. It is common when > investigating sockpuppets to send evidence privately to other trusted users, > so that the (suspected) sockpuppeteer does not change their habits to avoid > detection. I don't see any other evid

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

On 21/05/2011 23:09, Sarah wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 16:01, Risker wrote: >> As to the comments from MZMcBride and Sarah, I would like to see a >> significantly higher minimal level of notability for BLPs. In the past few >> years of working with the Arbitration Committee, I have seen lite

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:07 AM, George Herbert wrote: > I would like to request that Dror be moderated on Foundation-L. This > is not an appropriate use of Foundation-L, Dror has one of the more > extensive sockpuppetry histories of any Wikipedia abuse case ( > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Hoi, Leave off. Foundation-l is a place where relevant subjects can be raised. It is a place that has a bad reputation among some because of the aggressive tone. When Dror complains about stalking, it is a valid point of concern. It is the reason why some people I admire left our community. When y