Re: [Foundation-l] Global banners usage

2011-03-13 Thread MZMcBride
Gerard Meijssen wrote: > The lack of options to vote for makes it a biased attempt at strong arming > into a specific directions. In my opinion as it is flawed it is hardly > relevant. I'm not sure if other projects have the "Requests for comment" system (or are familiar with it), but generally pe

Re: [Foundation-l] Global banners usage

2011-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The lack of options to vote for makes it a biased attempt at strong arming into a specific directions. In my opinion as it is flawed it is hardly relevant. Thanks, GerardM On 14 March 2011 07:21, MZMcBride wrote: > Liam Wyatt wrote: > > I presume you are raising this point now in beca

Re: [Foundation-l] Global banners usage

2011-03-13 Thread MZMcBride
Liam Wyatt wrote: > I presume you are raising this point now in because of the recent global > banner referring people to the "March 11 Update" on Strategy Wiki signed by > Sue - http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/March_2011_Update > Unless I'm mistaken that banner was only displayed to logged-in e

Re: [Foundation-l] Global banners usage

2011-03-13 Thread Liam Wyatt
I presume you are raising this point now in because of the recent global banner referring people to the "March 11 Update" on Strategy Wiki signed by Sue - http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/March_2011_Update Unless I'm mistaken that banner was *only* displayed to logged-in editors however this RfC

[Foundation-l] Global banners usage

2011-03-13 Thread MZMcBride
A discussion was started some time ago to discuss when it's appropriate to use global banners. There was fairly clear consensus from the people who chose to participate, in my view. Does this need wider discussion before being adopted or can it be put into place now? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki

[Foundation-l] Possible tsunami for Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Dan Rosenthal
NHK is apparently reporting 9 ft. tsunami heading for Shinchicho, Fukushima Prefecture, from what I'm reading in the stewards channel. If you are in the potential target area, please be safe. -Dan (crossposting to multiple lists) ___ foundation-l ma

Re: [Foundation-l] The Psych That Almost Wasn't

2011-03-13 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
I regret to inform that there is indeed an article on Zick Rubin on Wikia, like Zick Rubin writes: "I was alarmed to find the following item, from a Wikia.com site on psychology" (http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Zick_Rubin). There is life beyond Wikipedia, no matter how difficult it is for so

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Hans A. Rosbach
On 13 March 2011 22:14, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 13 March 2011 18:25, Hans A. Rosbach wrote: > >> The English Wikipedia has a fair use policy, I know of no other > Wikipedia > > that has one. The statement "We can claim fair use when using images like > > that on > > Wikipedia" is correct for E

Re: [Foundation-l] FoP

2011-03-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 March 2011 20:02, Klaus Graf wrote: > German Wikipedia is accepting Freedom of Panorama for all countries, > and this is the right way to handle the problem. > > WMF board should decide not to oppose the results of a desirable > Commons poll that all pictures of buildings (which are free in

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 March 2011 18:25, Hans A. Rosbach wrote: >> The English Wikipedia has a fair use policy, I know of no other Wikipedia > that has one. The statement "We can claim fair use when using images like > that on > Wikipedia" is correct for English Wikipedia, but not for the other > Wikipedias. When

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread dex2000
Fair use is not allowed on the Danish Wikipedia. Rgs Sir48 - Thyge - Original meddelelse - > Fra: Marco Chiesa > Til: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > Dato: Søn, 13. mar 2011 21:05 > Emne: Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al > Arab? > > On 3/13/11, Yaro

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Marco Chiesa
On 3/13/11, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > From what I know, only the Spanish Wikipedia does not recognize fair-use > images, and the German Wikipedia has a very strict policy which makes the > usage of fair-use tricky. All other Wikipedias allow for fair-use. I am > absolutely sure about the Russ

[Foundation-l] FoP

2011-03-13 Thread Klaus Graf
German Wikipedia is accepting Freedom of Panorama for all countries, and this is the right way to handle the problem. WMF board should decide not to oppose the results of a desirable Commons poll that all pictures of buildings (which are free in the US) should be accepted (if the majority whishes)

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:25:32 +0100, "Hans A. Rosbach" wrote: > On 13 March 2011 18:55, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > >> >> > Given that the only Wikipedia in existence is the English Wikipedia, >> that >> > is. >> > >> > Hans Rosbach >> > >> >> I am not sure what you mean by this statement. Coul

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Hans A. Rosbach
On 13 March 2011 18:55, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > > Given that the only Wikipedia in existence is the English Wikipedia, > that > > is. > > > > Hans Rosbach > > > > I am not sure what you mean by this statement. Could you please explain? > > The English Wikipedia has a fair use policy, I kno

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I know, but buildings like the Burj al Arab are icons for their country, asking the person or organisation who can provide us with a license is a way to go. When we publicise that fact, it shows our gratitude and the silliness of FOP. Thanks, GerardM On 13 March 2011 18:58, Yaroslav M.

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:26:04 +0100, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Who is going to reach out and ask for some photos that are giving to us > under a free license. Moaning does not help. > Thanks, >GerardM > I think in this specific case we are not talking about photos (which are free)

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> Given that the only Wikipedia in existence is the English Wikipedia, that > is. > > Hans Rosbach > I am not sure what you mean by this statement. Could you please explain? Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Who is going to reach out and ask for some photos that are giving to us under a free license. Moaning does not help. Thanks, GerardM On 13 March 2011 18:23, Hans A. Rosbach wrote: > On 13 March 2011 15:30, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > > On 13 March 2011 12:06, Marcus Buck wrote: > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Hans A. Rosbach
On 13 March 2011 15:30, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 13 March 2011 12:06, Marcus Buck wrote: > > The upside is, that we won't get sued by copyright holders, I guess. > > Actually, the upside is that our reusers won't get sued by copyright > holders. We can claim fair use when using images like that

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 March 2011 12:06, Marcus Buck wrote: > The upside is, that we won't get sued by copyright holders, I guess. Actually, the upside is that our reusers won't get sued by copyright holders. We can claim fair use when using images like that on Wikipedia, but images on Commons are supposed to be

Re: [Foundation-l] The Psych That Almost Wasn't

2011-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:54:06 -0400, Marc Riddell wrote: > H. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/opinion/13rubin.html?_r=1&emc=tnt&tntemail > 1=y > > M > It looks like there is no article on him, and the NYT article is clearly a reliable source. I have heard a similar story from Anton

[Foundation-l] The Psych That Almost Wasn't

2011-03-13 Thread Marc Riddell
H. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/opinion/13rubin.html?_r=1&emc=tnt&tntemail 1=y M ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Marcus Buck
Am 13.03.2011 13:01, schrieb Peter Carney: > Validly licenced images of this building and thousands of others are > routinely deleted due to Wikimedia Commons' 'FoP' policy. Clearly this > damages our educational mission and impacts many projects. One > proposed remedy is a tweak to the policy on t

[Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Peter Carney
Validly licenced images of this building and thousands of others are routinely deleted due to Wikimedia Commons' 'FoP' policy. Clearly this damages our educational mission and impacts many projects. One proposed remedy is a tweak to the policy on the lines of that arising from the National Portrait