Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Peter Damian wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "John Vandenberg" > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent > issues. > > >>Irony.

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

2010-08-31 Thread David Gerard
On 1 September 2010 00:27, John Vandenberg wrote: > You, and the RW article about WP, start from the assertion that > Wikipedia is successful.  Successful at what?  Success at Google > rankings/pageviews/popular culture?  Is that the only appropriate > measure of an encyclopedia; an encyclopedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

2010-08-31 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:55 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 31 August 2010 00:21, John Vandenberg wrote: >>.. >> Pseudo-science, pseudo-humanities, etc are no stranger to Wikipedia, >> and our processes have not always been victorious over it.  Simply >> put, the rubbish on Wikipedia outweights the

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board (February and March)

2010-08-31 Thread Samuel J Klein
These reports remain some of my favorite reading. Thank you, Sue! You can also read, wikify, and comment on these reports on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports#The_Gardner_Report SJ On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:10 PM, James Owen wrote: > FEBRUARY > Report to the Wikimedia Foundation B

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

2010-08-31 Thread Chad
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > A real-time feed of external links is overkill. As mentioned by others, > the chief problem is linkrot of old links. All we need to do is dump the > contents of externallinks.el_to from the database once a year or so, run > a hex to ASCII conv

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread Michael Snow
Peter Damian wrote: > You take exception, in > a thread which is explicitly about content issues in Wikipedia, with a post > that makes unfavourable comparison between Wikipedia and one of its > competitors. Why is this? > The post I was responding to was nothing but an assessment of a Citiz

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

2010-08-31 Thread Rodan Bury
A dump "once a year or so" is not enough: the average life span of a website is 3 months. Kind regards, Dodoïste 2010/8/31 Ryan Kaldari > A real-time feed of external links is overkill. As mentioned by others, > the chief problem is linkrot of old links. All we need to do is dump the > contents

[Foundation-l] HR and Recruiting Feed on Identi.ca and Twitter

2010-08-31 Thread Daniel Phelps
Hello Everyone, Recently we've been having some internal conversations regarding transparency for our hiring, recruiting and contracting. In efforts to be more proactive about sharing this information we're moving to a system of tweeting short bursts of announcements. This will be done in a "

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

2010-08-31 Thread Ryan Kaldari
A real-time feed of external links is overkill. As mentioned by others, the chief problem is linkrot of old links. All we need to do is dump the contents of externallinks.el_to from the database once a year or so, run a hex to ASCII conversion on it, zip it, and email it to someone at the Inter

Re: [Foundation-l] CHANGE TO OFFICE HOURS

2010-08-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 31 August 2010 21:56, Sue Gardner wrote: > They're not exactly technical issues: I just have a headache :-( Go and have a lie down - by far the best headache cure. Get well soon! ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubsc

Re: [Foundation-l] CHANGE TO OFFICE HOURS

2010-08-31 Thread Sue Gardner
They're not exactly technical issues: I just have a headache :-( Sorry for the short notice. James will get me rescheduled pretty soon -- meanwhile, please enjoy Barry :-) Thanks, Sue On 31/08/2010, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Hi all, > > Due to some technical issues, Sue will not be doing off

Re: [Foundation-l] CHANGE TO OFFICE HOURS

2010-08-31 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi all, Due to some technical issues, Sue will not be doing office hours today. Taking her place will be Barry Newstead, the Chief Global Development Officer for the Wikimedia Foundation. Same time and location. :) pb On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:06 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Just a remi

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Damian
- Original Message - From: "Michael Snow" You are this Michael Snow, correct? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Snow You are currently on the Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation and previously served as chair of the Board of Trustees. You take exception, in a thread wh

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Damian
From: "Michael Snow" > Peter Damian wrote: >> Hoping I am not straying too far off-topic. > You are. Are the Citizendium forum and mailing lists so completely dead > that issues with its articles cannot be discussed there? > > --Michael Snow Sorry. It began with the David Gerard's assertion that

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Damian
From: "John Vandenberg" >Pseudo-science, pseudo-humanities, etc are no stranger to Wikipedia, >and our processes have not always been victorious over it. Simply >put, the rubbish on Wikipedia outweights the rubbish on CZ, and I >suspect that an academically sound study would indicate that, >prop

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread Michael Snow
Peter Damian wrote: > Hoping I am not straying too far off-topic. You are. Are the Citizendium forum and mailing lists so completely dead that issues with its articles cannot be discussed there? --Michael Snow ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Damian
Hoping I am not straying too far off-topic. I looked at the article on Young Earth Creationism in CZ http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Young_earth_creationism . It comes in from some heavy criticism in the RationalWiki article http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Citizendium for being "heavily (and "expe

Re: [Foundation-l] Why do you contribute to Wikipedia?

2010-08-31 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote: > Right now we in the Bookshelf Project are preparing a number of booklets and > brochures and you are welcome to participate in the work. We look forward to > any comments you may have to any of our deliverables: > http://outreach.wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontentissues.

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Damian
From: "David Gerard" >> Actually David wrote the page. I thought it was interesting ... > No, that section was substantially written by Trent Toulouse. I did get the calculator out (sorry). There are 608 edits to the article. 252 were by you. I don't know what section you are referring to. I s

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontentissues.

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Damian
- Original Message - From: "David Gerard" To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontentissues. > On 31 August 2010 20:16, Peter Damian wrote: > >> Actually David wrote the pa

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 August 2010 20:16, Peter Damian wrote: > Actually David wrote the page.  I thought it was interesting ... No, that section was substantially written by Trent Toulouse. - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubs

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues.

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Damian
- Original Message - From: "John Vandenberg" To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals withcontent issues. >Irony. David Gerard disparaging CZ using a rationalwiki page as evidence

[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 6 Issue 3 5 – 30 August 2010

2010-08-31 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Most linked websites on Wikipedia, New York Wiki-Conference, and more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-08-30/News_and_notes In the news: Agatha Christie spoiled, Wales on Wikileaks, University students improve Wikipedia, and more http://en.wikipedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours with Sue Gardner

2010-08-31 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Just a reminder this is in about 11 hours :) Philippe On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Hi all, > > Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, > will be having office hours this Tuesday (Aug 31) at 23:00 UTC > (16:00 PT, 19:00 ET) on IRC in