Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 75, Issue 64

2010-06-13 Thread Joan Goma
This is would be very interesting but usefulness will be a bit limited because people use Google to search instead of Wikipedia. Probably we will get a list of read links clicked by readers they don’t know there is not an article yet. A complementary approach could be having a list of most viewe

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-13 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I agree On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Philippe Beaudette < pbeaude...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > > > This is not only directed at you Gerard, but to all the > > top-posting perverts (sorry, but I do think you are in > > the minority

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-13 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > This is not only directed at you Gerard, but to all the > top-posting perverts (sorry, but I do think you are in > the minority on this issue), on the list. I object to this language, and strongly. "Top posting perverts"? And we w

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 June 2010 23:33, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> >> "Dog" isn't strongly associated in the public psyche with a particular >> brand. "Wiki" is. Like I say, these are complicated issues of legal >> interpretation and really should be left to the lawyers. >> >> >> > If t

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > "Dog" isn't strongly associated in the public psyche with a particular > brand. "Wiki" is. Like I say, these are complicated issues of legal > interpretation and really should be left to the lawyers. > What's relevant is that the WMF doe

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Thomas Dalton wrote: > > "Dog" isn't strongly associated in the public psyche with a particular > brand. "Wiki" is. Like I say, these are complicated issues of legal > interpretation and really should be left to the lawyers. > > > If there is any party with dibs on "Wiki", that would be Ward Cun

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 June 2010 22:28, Platonides wrote: > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> On 13 June 2010 19:04, Tim Landscheidt wrote: >>> Thomas Dalton wrote: >>> >>> But that's most likely not a trademark issue. There are doz- >>> ens of cola brands on the market and few feature extracts of >>> the kola nut, but th

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Platonides
Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 13 June 2010 19:04, Tim Landscheidt wrote: >> Thomas Dalton wrote: >> >> But that's most likely not a trademark issue. There are doz- >> ens of cola brands on the market and few feature extracts of >> the kola nut, but that doesn't mean that it is Coca-Cola's >> right or

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 June 2010 19:04, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Thomas Dalton wrote: > You are aware of [[en:Wiki]] for a history of wikis and WMF's part in it? > >>> In other words, the use of "wiki" predates wikipedia (wikipedia gets >>> its name since it was a encyclopedia using the wiki system) > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread wiki-list
Thomas Dalton wrote: > > I think everyone in this conversation is aware of that. Jiri said they > were calling it "Wiki" despite it not actually being a wiki, which > strongly suggests they are trying to associate it with Wikipedia > (which is very commonly abbreviated to "Wiki" despite our attemp

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Thomas Dalton wrote: >>> You are aware of [[en:Wiki]] for a history of wikis and >>> WMF's part in it? >> In other words, the use of "wiki" predates wikipedia (wikipedia gets >> its name since it was a encyclopedia using the wiki system) > I think everyone in this conversation is aware of that.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 June 2010 17:22, Pedro Sanchez wrote: > In other words, the use of "wiki" predates wikipedia (wikipedia gets > its name since it was a encyclopedia using the wiki system) (speaking only personally) The consistent WMF position has been that "Wikipedia" is a proper name and a trademark - bu

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 June 2010 17:22, Pedro Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Tim Landscheidt > wrote: >> Jiří Hofman wrote: >> >> >> You are aware of [[en:Wiki]] for a history of wikis and >> WMF's part in it? >> >> Tim >> > > In other words, the use of "wiki" predates wikipedia (wikipedia ge

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Jiří Hofman wrote: > > > You are aware of [[en:Wiki]] for a history of wikis and > WMF's part in it? > > Tim > In other words, the use of "wiki" predates wikipedia (wikipedia gets its name since it was a encyclopedia using the wiki syste

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Jiří Hofman wrote: > One of the Czech online news services, Aktuálně.cz ( http://aktualne.cz ) has > launched its own encyclopedia a few weeks ago. Links to the encyclopedia's > articles are used in news articles on this server. That would not be anything > strange if the encyclopedia wasn't n

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-13 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Chad wrote: > On behalf of everyone else on the list, please allow me > to thank you for bringing up this useless argument for > the Nth time on this list. Bravo, truly. > Actually, I think Jussi-Ville's comment was very useful -- I frequently have no idea exactl

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-13 Thread Chad
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > This is not only directed at you Gerard, but to all the > top-posting perverts (sorry, but I do think you are in > the minority on this issue), on the list. > > [more ranting of the same] > On behalf of everyone else on the list, pl

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-13 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > This is not a problem. We use the numbers that we have. We could ask Google > for such numbers.. They might even be willing to share them with us. > Thanks, >GerardM > This is not only directed at you Gerard, but to all the top-posting perverts (sorry, bu